Everlasting Torment

Enchantment

Players can't gain life.

Damage can't be prevented.

All damage is dealt as though its source had wither. (A source with wither deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

jamochawoke on Wacky Waving Infallible Life Flailing Masochists

2 months ago

This is a really solid deck!

But how would you deal with things that mess up your lifegain?

I mean stuff like Erebos, God of the Dead, Forsaken Wastes, Everlasting Torment, Havoc Festival, Knight of Dusk's Shadow, Leyline of Punishment, Giant Cindermaw, Rampaging Ferocidon, and Witch Hunt.

I've seen people just scoop and leave when they were running a lifegain-based deck when they run into those cards. You've definitely got removal for sure, but you should either run more or have ways of digging for them just in case since those are total hosers for your strategy.

Also, to note, Atarka's Command, Molten Disaster, Sudden Shock, or Skullcrack could kill you in the middle of doing stuff so you shouldn't get too low if you've got a red player on the board. I've seen this very thing happen to someone running a K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth deck. Just something to keep in mind!

Optimator on The Bad Plus

2 months ago

Good thinking KongMing! Everlasting Torment was definitely on the list. Going to try to go enchantment-heavy.

KongMing on The Bad Plus

2 months ago

Needs more cruelty, like Everlasting Torment

legendofa on Does “damage can’t be prevented” …

4 months ago

The updated wording on Glacial Chasm uses the wording "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you." If you have a card that says "Damage can’t be prevented" like Everlasting Torment, damage will still be applied, not prevented. The general rule here is that "can't" takes precedence--effects that say you can't do something override effects that say you can or have to do something.

Andromedus on Waste not, want not, greed not

8 months ago

Oops! You're right, I was indeed thinking of Black Vise. I play more legacy than modern tbh and get those two mixed up.

In any case, one more thing I wanted to mention. I see lifegain as a problem for this deck. Some sideboard you may want to consider: Erebos, God of the Dead, Everlasting Torment, Knight of Dusk's Shadow, Rampaging Ferocidon, Roiling Vortex, or Tibalt, Rakish Instigator are all possible options.

Gleeock on Challenging Maarika

11 months ago

Everlasting Torment would nullify this commander's indestructible.

Trample is weird with excess dmg, since you assign damage as you choose with trample I think you can still choose to leave some excess on the creature to trigger the commander ability? - otherwise if you were just trampling (sending excess dmg to the player) after lethal I think you are actually non-boing your commander's ability?

I think this is some of why some deathtouch was thrown in - because any dmg this commander does in excess of 1 is excess damage

An example is Ram Through - it clearly states excess damage is dealt to the creature's controller instead (replacement), causing a bit of a non-bo with that sac ability triggered by dealing excess damage to a creature

TheoryCrafter on Challenging Maarika

11 months ago

I noticed you only have a couple of artifact/enchantment hate cards. May I suggest adding Cindervines?

As much as I understand you don't want to add more green, Perhaps maybe make an exception for adding Rot Wolf? Not for the infect, but for the card draw it will bring. Another exception would be Ram Through. It does deal direct damage to a creature and offers excess damage. I would also suggest Archetype of Aggression for trample.

A card you should strongly consider is Everlasting Torment for indestructible creatures.

I hope this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

Icbrgr on Dank or Jank?: Sulfuric Vortex

1 year ago

I think I view it in the same lense as I see something like Everlasting Torment... not exactly main deck material but could be a spicey sideboard option in certain metas.... I'm personally just a bit traumatized from playing ARENA when those Ajani's Pridemate decks were running around lol... I know it's a completely different story/game but I'm just being honest.