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Shamanic Revelation Discussion
4 days ago
So I think you probably don’t want 36 lands... frankly, I think you want 33 at most. The reason I say this is that, being green, your deck has access to the best ramp in the game. You should strongly consider running any/all of the following: Llanowar Elves , Elves of Deep Shadow , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Deathrite Shaman , Birds of Paradise , Arbor Elf , Utopia Sprawl and/or Wild Growth .
You want your creatures to be synergistic with your general and be more than midrange value. I think cards like Mindslicer , which effect the board when sacrificed as well as being a body, are likely a lot better than Wall of Blood , Splinterfright , Rhizome Lurcher , etc. Other creatures to consider for these slots: Stinkweed Imp , Golgari Grave-Troll , Eternal Witness , Entomb , Kokusho, the Evening Star ...
This list could also benefit from more card-drawn. Phyrexian Arena is the classical example, but there’re other good options. I like the Shamanic Revelation in your MB; I suggest considering Night's Whisper , Blood Divination , Life's Legacy , Minions' Murmurs , Syphon Mind and Succumb to Temptation .
1 week ago
speaks the truth and posted the bomb cards. I would add some wide stuff to get ahead in advantage as well, Wildest Dreams (extremely underrated card imo especially for casual) Harmonize Regal Force Shamanic Revelation
Overall, I think MLD is an extremely viable strategy, but as mentioned before, timing is crucial. If you drop it after securing a much stronger board state than anyone else, you've almost definitely sealed the game.
People get unhappy pretty fast because they want to actually play their cards, and they don't recognize that resource denial is a valid (and extremely strong) strategy. People will react similarly to a cost increaser stax deck with Sphere of Resistance Thorn of Amethyst Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Ethersworn Canonist Lodestone Golem Trinisphere Grand Arbiter Augustin IV and similar. That type of deck can shut out an entire table, but expect to have your board completely dismantled if someone slips out from your control.
I recommend bringing multiple decks to games, so you can gauge the power level if playing for fun. I have a $1100 semi competitive Kess deck that is tons of fun to play, but playing against 3 other players with a combined deck worth of $150 makes for extremely fast and boring games. Bring a battlecruiser, high powered, and competitive deck (or two high powered if you don't have a competitive) to all commander games if you don't know what the game will be like.
1 week ago
To start, I think I counted about 11 ramp spells, which is a good start. You may want to swap out Golgari Locket and Darksteel Ingot for some land ramp spells like Rampant Growth and Cultivate . Lands tend to be safer than artifacts.
As far as card draw effects, I think this is where your deck could use some work. There are a number of effect that will get extra cards into your hand like Grisly Salvage but most are conditional (you can only get a creature or land) and most only give you one card at a time. I think Shamanic Revelation wpuld be a good addition from your maybeboard because it will probably draw you 3 cards or more most of the time. Strive for card draw effects that either A) draw many cards at once or B) can draw a lot of cards over the course of the game. For category A Cards, I would recommend Read the Bones and Rishkar's Expertise and Disciple of Bolas and Damnable Pact . For category B cards, I would recommend Abzan Beastmaster and Beast Whisperer and Lifecrafter's Bestiary and Primordial Sage and Greed .
Hope this helps!
2 weeks ago
LordTsukune Card draw is the biggest obstacle to overcome in this deck. Theres been many games where I just dump my hand and play draw go to catch up. I've implemented a lot of cards like Shamanic Revelation , Regal Force , and Sylvan Library to try and always keep some sort of card movement consistent. Board wipes are another huge problem which is why Heroic Intervention is a crucial card and if you have a decent board you should always try and keep mana up to protect key elves with Ezuri. The only card that truly counters us is Damnation or Wrath of God . And the best thing I can advise for the Growing Rites is try to buy one online at TCG since they usually have the best prices.
2 weeks ago
Hey man! I got a few suggestions -- I hope you find them helpful:
The best aspect of playing green is its access to turn one dorks. I'm sure you've noticed your Birds of Paradise is a great play to lead with; you should consider the following: Llanowar Elves , Elvish Mystic , Fyndhorn Elves , Avacyn's Pilgrim and Orcish Lumberjack . Bloom Tender and Priest of Titania are good two-mana plays in this sort of package.
Another benefit to running dorks in green, aside from their mana, is that they're bodies. An Overrun effect can easily take the game, if you have a critical mass of creatures. Ironically, Overrun itself is pretty mediocre as far as Overrun effects go... I suggest running Triumph of the Hordes and Craterhoof Behemoth , since these are great ways to make an army of tiny duders into an army of deadly duders. Craterhoof Behemoth is especially good, since you can fetch it out with Natural Order , should you choose to run that.
So, I'm not quite sure how your deck is going to play. However, I suspect you'll have a lot of creatures during the mid-game. I think you should consider running Shamanic Revelation and/or Slate of Ancestry .
Veil of Summer is one of the more absurdly good cards printed recently. I highly suggest running it in any green deck -- it's a cantrip that protects your guys from counters and spot removal. There're some really odd niche-cases it's good in, too, like against Bitter Ordeal .
I don't think Path to Exile is very good. In general, ramping your opponents in a format with forty life and several enemies trying to do busted things is a dangerous move. I like your Swords to Plowshares a lot more.
Naya has access to some serious hate, in the form of bears and in the form of regular stax pieces. You should at least consider some of the following: Aven Mindcensor , Aura of Silence , Winter Orb (especially if you're running the dorks mentioned in (1)), Linvala, Keeper of Silence , Price of Glory , Root Maze , Armageddon (if you're like me and don't mind getting flipped off), Gaddock Teeg , Collector Ouphe , Stony Silence , Null Rod , Kataki, War's Wage and similar such nonsense. These are a really good way to slow down opponents long enough to get your army out and swinging.
Finally, depending on your meta, there're a few green enchantments you should strongly consider: Choke , Carpet of Flowers and Compost are all super powerful, given the right meta. Blue and black are the two most common colors in EDH, so you can be pretty certain you'll be facing one or both most of the time.
Right. That's all I got for now. Good luck!
3 weeks ago
noggynogworld, I'm currently testing Shamanic Revelation in place of Greater Good but after looking at Xenagos, the Reveler , I think he is right on the money with what I want to be doing. Makes a dude if I need a dude, or lets me refill my mana pool and do more stuff after I cast him. Seems solid, and I do love things that are more than 1 specific action. I'll slot that into testing. Also need to go through my mana base and make sure its covering my bases, since it currently isn't. Will do that today.
4 weeks ago
So the main bonus of green in EDH is its access to mana dorks. Llanowar Elves , Elves of Deep Shadow and Orcish Lumberjack all belong in this deck, and you may want to find a place for Elvish Mystic , Priest of Titania , Fyndhorn Elves , Birds of Paradise , Deathrite Shaman , Arbor Elf and/or Bloom Tender . Note that Arbor Elf is especially powerful if you end up running cards like Wild Growth , Elvish Guidance and/or Wild Growth . Dorks will accelerate you early game and provide sac-fodder in the late game.
Faithless Looting is a really good source of card selection for one mana. You're probably going to want to run it, as it makes a lot of mediocre hands much more keepable.
Green Sun's Zenith is a great card to consider, especially since you're already running Dryad Arbor . If you cast Green Sun's Zenith turn one for X = 0, you can fetch Dryad Arbor right away. It's a good form of one mana ramp outside dorks and enchant-lands.
A lot of your dudes are gonna die in a sacrifice deck. In order to get card-advantage out of this, you should run Grim Haruspex , Midnight Reaper and/or Harvester of Souls . Unfortunately, these don't trigger with token-deaths, but they'll still help a lot. Deathreap Ritual is similarly powerful and triggers with token deaths, though it only triggers once a turn.
Speaking of card-draw, you have access to some good stuff there. Painful Truths is a three-mana draw-three I've been very impressed with, and Shamanic Revelation is also helpful. From a permanent-based point of view, Phyrexian Arena and Slate of Ancestry are the way to go.
A lot of your removal are one-for-ones (see Terminate , Hero's Downfall , Doom Blade , etc.). In general, I find one-for-ones are usually not very powerful in a format with three opponents, as you're facing three times as many cards as you have. Your Damnation is a great start; consider Toxic Deluge , Hull Breach , Decimate , Casualties of War , Windgrace's Judgment , Reckless Spite , By Force , Ancient Grudge , etc. I've found these to be more efficient, and therefore more powerful, than one-for-ones. Some one-for-ones, though, are so tough to counter or are so efficient as is that they're worth including: Nature's Claim and your Krosan Grip come to mind.
Runes of the Deus comes to mind as a good way to force through commander damage.
I've always liked Smallpox , both in general and in EDH. You might have luck with it in this deck; similar cards include Innocent Blood , Smokestack and the card Pox itself. If you choose to go the Smokestack route, Bitterblossom and/or Ophiomancer are worth considering. They might be worth considering anyways, though.
Spellbreaker Behemoth is an efficient creature that disrupts countermagic. Harsh Mentor , Pyrostatic Pillar , Eidolon of the Great Revel , Shattergang Brothers or Stranglehold are similar ways to punish opponents while having good cards on your side.
Finally, you should consider Overrun effects as secondary win-conditions. Using Natural Order to grab Craterhoof Behemoth while you have a wide board can easily win you the game; Green Sun's Zenith or Chord of Calling also do the job, though they're more expensive mana-wise and therefore worse. Triumph of the Hordes is a similar card that can snatch games, though it cannot be tutored as easily.
Ok! Good luck -- that's all I got.
4 weeks ago
So there're a lot of different directions you can take RG decks. I'll suggest some basic, universal additions first, and then suggest some win conditions:
The best part of green in EDH is the dorks. You should definitely run at least Llanowar Elves , but there're some other cards you should consider: Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Birds of Paradise , Arbor Elf , Shaman of Forgotten Ways , Somberwald Sage , Joraga Treespeaker ... If you end up having a lot of elves, running something like Priest of Titania is worth including. Depending on your meta, Carpet of Flowers can get a lot of mana. Finally, Orcish Lumberjack is a card I have been very impressed with... turning a forest into effectively a better Black Lotus is a good thing. (Note that Arbor Elf is especially good if it untaps lands enchanted with Utopia Sprawl , Elvish Guidance or Wild Growth ).
Red-green decks tend to poop out a lot of creatures and go lightly on the spells. Slate of Ancestry is an EXCELLENT way to recoup card advantage, provided you have a critical mass of creatures on the table. Commune with Lava is another excellent pseudo-card-draw thingy. If your games are usually four player games, Decimate is frequently a four-for-one, meaning that it's another good source of permanent-count advantage. Shamanic Revelation is another good draw-spell. If you have fat enough creatures, Rishkar's Expertise may merit an include. Hull Breach is a great two-for-one.
Green-red decks, which tend to be creature-heavy, can be soft to boardwipes. Heroic Intervention is a good way to protect your duders; Grim Flowering and Nature's Resurgence are good ways to recoup cards after losing a bunch of guys.
Tutors are good. Gamble is cheap these days, due to the recent reprint. Green Sun's Zenith , Tooth and Nail and Chord of Calling can all grab powerful creatures to play -- note that GSZ for X = 0 can grab Dryad Arbor , if you run it. Worldly Tutor or Sylvan Tutor are also good.
Oftentimes, green-red decks win through a combination of Stax pieces and aggro cards.
Potential Stax Pieces:
Blood Moon / Magus of the Moon : If you craft your land base carefully, you can make these into a near asymmetrical effect. A lot of decks benefit from greedy mana bases in EDH, and these are a way to punish that.
Artifact hate is pretty awesome. Collector Ouphe is powerful, since you can get your ramp from creatures while shutting off non-green players' artifact ramp; as an added bonus, you can grab it with Green Sun's Zenith or Chord of Calling . By Force is an excellent card that can nuke a lot of permanents at once, and Nature's Claim is a very efficient removal spell. Krosan Grip may be justified in a heavy-blue meta. Gorilla Shaman is good as a method of artifact-destruction that does not cost you cards. Also Reclamation Sage and Manglehorn .
Gruul has access to a lot of hatebears. Ruric Thar, the Unbowed is a really powerful dude you've already got, as he can club combo players like me really hard. Harsh Mentor is good for punishing all sorts of decks. Eidolon of the Great Revel , and his cousin Pyrostatic Pillar , are both good. Scab-Clan Berserker is similar to Kambal, Consul of Allocation in Orzhov. Runic Armasaur , too.
Cards like Root Maze can shut down combos really quickly, and City of Solitude / Price of Glory can prevent/discourage countermagic. Pyroblast or the Maybeboarded Red Elemental Blast can also be worth running.
Most of the best green decks end the game with an alpha-strike. Craterhoof Behemoth is the best for this, as it can be tutored out with Natural Order or a high-cost Green Sun's Zenith . Similarly, Overrun is good, but I suggest Triumph of the Hordes as a more potent alternative. This does, of course, require creatures on the board, so I suggest some of the following duders:
Eternal Witness (from Maybeboard)
Deep Forest Hermit / Thelonite Hermit / Deranged Hermit : These make bodies for Craterhoof Behemoth and Slate of Ancestry ; also good if you end up running Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip or Gaea's Cradle .
Beast Whisperer : Added bonus of card advantage.
...and the aforementioned hatebears can also attack.
Good luck! That's all I got.
Shamanic Revelation occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
RG (Gruul): 1.28%