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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Big Apple Highlander | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| PreDH | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Rules Q&A
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
Pay 1 life: Draw a card.
EnbyGolem on Bracket Advice?
3 months ago
Thank you FormOverFunction! That's interesting because that is exactly how we have historically approached people when we play. I just know a lot of newer players have the bracket system in mind and I was a little unclear where a deck like this would stand given the layout of guidelines we found.
But yeah this deck is absolutely filled with issues that any new deck could easily exploit. Most people that have played against this deck even encourage us to run our 'sideboarded' Yawgmoth's Bargain just to try and keep up with the table lol. I guess those aforementioned decks would now probably be considered somewhere in the 2s-3s? Idk I'm old now like my deck
hyalopterouslemur on What do you want more …
7 months ago
Yisan Sort of. I would not want to see, for instance, Yawgmoth's Bargain be legal in any bracket. But ban lists should be used judiciously, and many of the cards on the ban list struck me as "banned for casual".
TBH, I'd also like to see certain other legal cards (Hermit Druid, Mycosynth Lattice) put on the game changers' list. These are cards that if you're using them, you're probably up to combo shenanigans (either the instant-win variety like Hermit Druid or the stealth-Stax variety like Mycosynth Lattice + Null Rod ) and should be kept out of brackets 1 and 2, but should really be there for higher brackets to play with.
Polaris on How do I cast spells?
8 months ago
1: Yes. Per rules 601.2 f, g, and h, you determine the cost to cast the spell, then activate any mana abilities you need to pay the costs, then pay the cost from 601.2f to cast the spell. You can wait to sacrifice Lotus Petal until after the cost for Thoughtcast is locked in at .
2: Yes. Moving the card to the stack is the first step in proposing to cast a spell (rule 602.1a). If the casting is determined to be invalid this will be taken back, but a spell has already left your hand by the time you discard cards or similar to pay the cost to cast it. You do not discard your Yawgmoth's Bargain to Lion's Eye Diamond when using the Diamond to pay the casting cost.
DreadKhan on Hilarious whiff and miss
2 years ago
Glad that could help a bit, for sure the most frustrating thing I find in Magic is when you just draw terrible, but learning to accept the good with the bad is part of getting better I've found, that and eventually figuring out how to look for the pitfalls rather than just get annoyed. For me, it wasn't until I learned to take the good with the bad that I started looking at hypergeometric stuff differently, good deck building is about minimizing the number of bad hands while improving the odds of winning.
TBH I couldn't believe people even tried other Reanimation options, Griselbrand is mostly better Yawgmoth's Bargain, that's better than anything legal in Modern isn't it?
May you draw your bolts when you need em!
tom.maxwellmans on
Queza Grand Smotherer - On a Budget
2 years ago
If you are looking at getting a "good rate" of turning resources into cards you may want to start looking at ways of turning life into cards, since you have a lot of incidental life gain.
Enchantments like:
Greed Necrodominance Unfulfilled Desires Phyrexian Etchings Yawgmoth's Bargain Nihilistic Glee Lunar Convocation
Are repeatable ways to turn life into cards.
Cards like:
Cut of the Profits Eldritch Pact Peer into the Abyss Sanguimancy Pain's Reward
Will give you a big hit of cards for life.
nuperokaso on
Win Turn 0 vs Yu-Gi-Oh
2 years ago
If you actually playtest the deck, many times your hand is not that great.
- 8 of your tutors put the card only on the top of your library rather than into your hand. I suggest you play Demonic Tutor rather than Imperial Seal.
- You have problems with color fixing. You end up being unable to play your cards because you don't have right combination of mana. If your plan is solely to play only one turn, then Lotus Petal is better than Mox Jet or Mox Sapphire.
- With Dark Ritual and 8 Lotuses, It's reasonable to get to 5-6 black mana. Some 2 Ad Nauseam and/or Yawgmoth's Bargain would improve your consistency.
- Ceremonious Rejection looks bad. If your only plan is to play for one turn, play Pact of Negation. You'll save 1 mana and have more possible targets. It's better if you start the game. If your opponent starts the game, Ceremonious Rejection only works if you have Leyline of Anticipation. And if you have that, you should able to win even with Pact of Negation trigger.
- Play 4 Gitaxian Probe and 4 Street Wraith. Your deck doesn't care for life, and you need to get your relevant cards.
- If you are allowed to play 4 Black Lotus and 4 Blacker Lotus, then I assume anything is playable. If so, you forgot to include the most powerful card in the entire history - Contract from Below
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
3 years ago
@FireMind42: Yeah in that case, you'll want to go for Underworld Breach or Paradoxical Outcome (or something weird with both). I'd lean more towards Paradoxical Outcome because it lends itself better to straight U/R Storm. Not to mention, it opens up Displacer Kitten + Coveted Jewel shenanigans. Then you won't have to rely on rituals so much (Desperate Ritual, Goblin Electromancer, and Seething Song are especially awkward). You can then fit more artifact mana and draw spells.
You'll still want Bolas's Citadel because you're never going to actually spend black mana to cast it and the card is just the nuts in Storm. Memory Jar is always fun with Hullbreacher and Narset, Parter of Veils, but Bolas's Citadel is like Yawgmoth's Will and Yawgmoth's Bargain in one card that can be Tinker'd for (especially with Sensei's Divining Top, Brainstorm, and Ponder). You'll still need Sphinx of the Steel Wind in your sideboard, which is another card you're never going to actually cast.
Since you don't want Monastery Mentor, you'll have to get by with Laelia, the Blade Reforged. Sometimes you'll want to Grapeshot. Sometimes you'll want to Brain Freeze. Sometimes you'll want to Empty the Warrens. Other times, you need something that can get big quick and an easy way to do that is Laelia, the Blade Reforged, Treasure Cruise, and Dig Through Time. She's mostly for Underworld Breach, but I'm not sure you'll need that with Paradoxical Outcome.
I also don't know how I forgot to mention Mind's Desire in my original post. That's the reason to play pure U/R Storm in Vintage LOL. Personal Tutor may also have a potential spot somewhere in this list. It grabs Tinker, Grapeshot, Time Walk, Mind's Desire, and draw 7s. I'd even consider it over the second copies of Past in Flames and Grapeshot.
sylvannos on
Hoax Storm v2
3 years ago
To start with, there's a few cards that have better Vintage equivalents. Overmaster and Spell Pierce should be the 3rd. and 4th. copies of Force of Will. Leftover space from cutting those can be Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast, or Flusterstorm. You don't need Faithless Looting because we have Paradoxical Outcome, Sensei's Divining Top, Gush, Dig Through Time, Treasure Cruise, and Brainstorm to choose from. Merchant Scroll also belongs in here, because you can use it to grab Ancestral Recall at the very least. Usually you want it to make sure you have protection in hand by grabbing countermagic.
Library of Alexandria isn't good in this deck. And you're not the type that needs 8x sources, so Steam Vents can go, along with a few copies of Volcanic Island (1 or 2). Replace all of these with four copies of Scalding Tarn and basic lands. Or even just play 6x fetches. You need to be able to shuffle after using Brainstorm, Ponder,and Sensei's Divining Top.
From here, you have a solid U/R Storm shell. However, I wouldn't play straight "Modern U/R Storm, but Power 9" dot dec. 2 mana is a lot for Goblin Electromancer, there are easier ways of winning than Grapeshot, and so on. The question then becomes "Where to go from here?"
- Paradoxical Outcome is just the nuts. By bouncing moxen and cheap artifacts, it's a ritual (since you can replay everything for , untapping it all) and it's a draw spell. However, Paradoxical Outcome requires Mox Opals, Lotus Petal, Lion's Eye Diamond, etc. so you'll have to cut rituals (likely Seething Song). The upside is you get an extremely powerful engine that can often end the game with a single Paradoxical Outcome.
- Thassa's Oracle is the new hotness for Vintage combo cards. You can win the game by casting Brain Freeze on yourself, then casting Thassa's Oracle. It also opens up more combos using Demonic Consultation and Doomsday. Sometimes you've just drawn a bunch of cards and have ~3 cards left in your deck.
- Tinker is too good in Storm not to play it. You're either getting Memory Jar, Bolas's Citadel, Time Vault (Voltaic Key is already good in Storm when combined with Mana Vault and friends), or a random wincon like Sphinx of the Steel Wind boarded in for game 2. Bolas's Citadel will essentially flip the top half of your deck into play.
- You can also play draw 7s (Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Memory Jar, Diminishing Returns) in combination with Narset, Parter of Veils and Hullbreacher.
- Mana Drain is good, but you may find it too slow if you make any of the above changes. It definitely does more work in a more control-oriented Storm deck with Narset, Parter of Veils, Dack Fayden, Grim Tutor, etc.
- Lastly, there's the question of Underworld Breach, Yawgmoth's Will, Monastery Mentor, or some combination of these. Underworld Breach will mean you can stay in two colors. Playing black for Yawgmoth's Will allows you to play Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Necropotence, Doomsday, Tendrils of Agony, and hardcasting Bolas's Citadel. Monastery Mentor both scales up and goes sideways. A single token is enough to kill someone combined with Paradoxical Outcome or a draw 7. Monastery Mentor is like casting Tarmogoyf and Empty the Warrens for three mana and one card.
Hope this helps! Welcome to MtG's oldest and greatest format.
