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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal



, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.

multimedia on Liesa, Forgotten Archangel (Budget EDH, Combo)

3 months ago

Hey, this is one of the better budget Commander decks I've seen and great description. Really good job with the card choices keeping within the price restriction. If you're on card price restriction, why all foils and alternative card arts?

Activated Sleeper and Kaya's Ghostform are good budget cards when you want your creatures to die. Sleeper is another creature who infinite die combos with Karmic Guide and Ghostform infinite die combos with Sun Titan.

Thran Vigil is the new budget infinite persist enabler, it infinite combos with Twilight Shepherd or another persist creature such as Lesser Masticore. If a creature dies on your turn and you control Liesa then Vigil will trigger to put a counter on a creature for each creature who died. Tortured Existence interacts with Vigil if you activate it on your turn equal to the amount of black mana you have available as long as you have a creature in your graveyard and a creature in your hand to repeatedly swap them. Put the counters from Vigil on Liesa making her huge to threaten lethal Commander damage.

Profane Tutor is the budget lesser Demonic, it's still powerful for it's price. Because you have lots of reanimation and recursion than Vile Entomber can be great support especially to get and bin Leonin Relic-Warder. Entomber getting any card of your choice is nice with Sun Titan.

Bolas's Citadel, is less than $6, the card is amazing when your Commander can gain life, you have a lower avg. CMC and even if you don't have top of library manipulation. Children of Korlis goes well with Citadel, to sac to gain all the life back you lost casting spells. Greed interacts well with Citadel and Children, it's budget repeatable draw when you can gain life. It can help to draw land that's revealed on top of your library so that you can keep Citadel going.

Plumb the Forbidden can instant sac all creatures you control to draw for each one for 2 mana. I'm a big fan of Fanatical Devotion for a budget sac outlet that can protect your Commander from many types of removal and also protect creatures in combo while being the sac outlet in the combo.

Some changes to consider:

Good luck with your deck.

NV_1980 on Lifegains

3 months ago

Your deck seems to be just about gaining life, but not using the gained life for anything. Life-points can be fuel for a whole host of interesting abilities. Take Aetherflux Reservoir; allows you to zap an opponent for 50 damage, at the cost of 50 life. Or something like Greed; allows you to draw cards in exchange for life. It's worth looking into options like these, as your deck will become much more interesting (not to mention powerful) as a result.

amarthaler on EDH Rakdos Group Slug

4 months ago


In: Greed

Out: Curse of the Cabal

Curse of the Cabal wasn't working too well and never resolved. For 4 mana, I'd rather have a card draw engine out.

RiotRunner789 on 32 Sustainable Spells to Burn Body Fat

5 months ago

If Thrumming Stone is a must, consider Beacon of Unrest is case it gets destroyed or milled.

Phyrexian Arena: Bit slow but reliable card draw engine. Dark Confidant is similar but dies to wipes and drains you.

Erebos, God of the Dead and Greed are also reliable engines.

There also quite a few Sign in Blood effects in black.

Massacar on Sheoldred's Dream Drainer

5 months ago

ladygaura keep in mind that the competitive meter on the site doesn't accurately represent how competitive your deck is. From my understanding, it mostly serves as an aggregator, and looks to compare how many "competitive" cards for your color are present as well as your mana curve etc. Here's a link to the forum thread where this was discussed when the feature launched on the site. For reference, yeaGO is the site admin. So I'm saying don't sweat the rating too much as it won't ultimately be judging the nuances of your own particular deck.

Personal opinion, but one of the most substantial things you can do to increase the relative competitiveness of your deck without specifically delving into combos would be to lower your CMC. Example would be to consider dropping something like Defiant Bloodlord and maybe replacing it with a repeatable draw engine like Greed or Erebos, God of the Dead. Other draw based includes I would consider Teferi's Puzzle Box (arguably one of the best includes for Sheoldred, every turn you gain life and your opponents lose big time) Black Market Connections, Phyrexian Arena, and Vilis, Broker of Blood (high cmc, but he's busted as hybrid removal and draw for this commander).

Also, I know you don't want infinite combos, but a synergy you should consider is just adding in Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to squeak out ever bit of mana from the Cabal coffers etc.

I know you've seen my deck already otherwise I would refer you to take a look, but if you want I can try to give more feedback.

DreadKhan on Baby You're a Firework EDH Ed.

6 months ago

War Room is card draw that can work, there are also cards like Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Syphon Mind, and Village Rites (there are lots more). There are various enchantments that sit around and help like Black Market Connections, Underworld Connections, Greed, Necropotence, and Phyrexian Arena. If you recast Juri repeatedly, Tome of Legends might work. Ayara, First of Locthwain can draw some cards.

It's a tad out there, but Mask of Griselbrand lets you draw cards and is cheaper than Skullclamp, and it offers evasion and the ability to gain life via your newly evasive Commander.

If you're fairly desperate for draw, you could risk Allure of the Unknown, a card that I have generally been happy with. It sucks when you just hit lands and mana rocks, but you probably were going to lose the game if you had to sit and draw rubbish for 6 turns.

I really am liking the new Make an Example, this is actually a removal effect that forces each opponent to sacrifice their best creature, and can be even better if your opponent doesn't know what to pick.

If you already have Gravecrawler in the deck, another card that synergizes well with creature sacrificing decks is Pitiless Plunderer. Gravecrawler, Viscera Seer and pitiless plunderer are infinite Scry, ETBs and death triggers.

multimedia on Liesa, Liesa, they so flying...

6 months ago

Hey, keep an eye on Verrak, Warped Sengir, new card in Dominaria United Commander precon Legends' Legacy. Extra activation for no additional mana cost just life is really good. Also has flying and lifelink. Deathtouch is nice with reanimation especially Sun Titan.

Verrak, Warped Sengir triggers from each activation, if you make a lot of Greed activations each one gets an extra activation for the cost of additional 2 life. 1 mana + 4 life to draw 2 cards is great value when you can consistently gain life. Priest of Fell Rites with Verrak can reanimate any two creatures in your graveyard for 6 life. Priest can be reanimated by Sun Titan.

Speaking of Sun Titan for reanimation it combines well with Apprentice Necromancer. They can reanimate each other and then one other permanent 3 CMC or less on your turn. That's excellent value for only 1 mana especially when it can be repeatable.

When Apprentice Necromancer reanimates Sun Titan you get two triggers, ETB and when Titan attacks because Necromancer gives it haste. Titan ETB reanimates Necromancer then attacks and reanimates any other permanent it can from your graveyard. At the end of your turn Titan is saced, putting it in your graveyard to repeat the interaction on your next turn.

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