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Harmonize
Sorcery
Draw three cards.
Profet93 on My 3-headed baby girl
6 months ago
Tokens are outside my wheelhouse, but I'll do my best to help. Also, I see you run the Emeria Shepherd + Sakura Tribe elder synergy, nice!
Shamanic Revelation - Draw with a side of lifegain
Alhammarret's Archive - Double lifegain, double draw!
Harmonize - Simple draw
Elemental Bond - Steady draw
Skullclamp - You run a decent amount of mana dorks.
Reliquary Tower - Maybe not needed yet but once you add more card draw, it should definitely be considered. Currently, Creeping Renaissance could warrant this inclusion.
Greater Good - Such a good card for draw. Also helps prevent exile and theft tactics.
Momentous Fall - Used in response to removal. Beware of the blue player! Also note Life's Legacy.
I understand that tokens are secondary, but have you considered at least adding one token doubler card such as Doubling Season? Not necessarily doubling season itself given the price constraint but any one of it's close cousins can fit the bill.
Winding Canyons/Emergence Zone - Flash would help primarily with Felidar Sovereign, Sunblast Angel and combat tricks. It also helps you from over-extending your board
Castle Garenbrig - Ramp
Headers13 on Power and Poison
7 months ago
Profet93 on King Stranger, Make Me Strong! *PRIMER*
8 months ago
First and foremost, I enjoyed reading your description. Do Note that Sword of Feast and Famine means your commander cannot target it to increase it's stats due to the "pro green."
Greater Good - THE MOST IMPORTANT CARD IN XENAGOS, HANDS DOWN. IF YOU LISTEN TO ANYTHING, THIS IS THE ONE SUGGESTION. Used in response to removal or equip activation, or just in a pinch. This card forces them to use removal lest they die to your overwhelming card advantage. DO NOT SLEEP ON THIS CARD.
Harmonize - Simple draw
Momentous Fall/Life's Legacy - While weak against blue, could warrant an inclusion depending on how much draw you want in the deck. The former is used in response to removal and the lifegain is icing on the cake.
Rishkar's Expertise - I'm normally against cards like this but in Xenagos, there is way too much of an upside to ignore. Used post combat most of the time, allows you to draw without missing out on tempo.
Skullclamp - Cut little idea to use on mana dorks, or force interaction pre-commander ability/combat.
Return of the Wildspeaker - Used in response to removal. Overrun option is nice as well
Elemental Bond - Draw, also see Guardian Project (although they can remove ur creature in response to the trigger to deny you a card)
Ancient Tomb - Ramp
Raging Ravine - Manland that can get bigger.
Dread Statuary - Manland that can get to 8 power with Xenagos. I usually use manlands as fodder for one of the draw spells listed above. Worth considering
Castle Garenbrig - Simple ramp
Cragcrown Pathway Flip - Red or green, whichever you need.
Elder Gargaroth - Draw, lifegain or token production
Somberwald Sage - Ramp
Berserk - Super fun! Use before the damage step. Or better yet, use on your opponent attacking another opponent and force op 1 to lose a creature while op 2 takes lots of damage. Fun fact, I killed an animar this was (lol). You can also use it on Selvala for extra ramp!
Xenagos decks typically go one of 2 ways. Either lots of dorks and some land ramp like your deck to bring threats out more quickly, or to forgo dorks and focus solely on land ramp. Your deck is the former while mine is the latter. Do note that even with the dork route, Xenagos decks go tall, not wide. So there are some creature choices that I do not believe are as efficient as other choices could be and would love to discuss them with you if you're up for it. Xenagos decks are like snipers, usually one big creature at a time, sometimes more if you have the right set up. They also fold to spot removal as spending 5+ mana on a creature just to have it removed by 1 - 3 mana removal spell really sucks. I know you're against bolt bend/deflecting swat (despite them being my favorite type of spells) but perhaps something like Vines of Vastwood or another spell might potentially warrant an inclusion to save an important creature. At the very least, having more than 2 instants, only 1 of which acts as protection, could be used as a bluff and keep opponents guessing.
Profet93 on Godzilla, King of Monsters Budget Build
9 months ago
What is your budget per card?
Why run a signet in a 2 color deck with green? Rampant Growth/Nature's Lore are budget friendly swaps
Elemental Bond - Should budget allow, better than colossal majesty
Soul's Majesty - Budget friendly draw
Harmonize - Regula, reliable draw
Life's Legacy/Momentous Fall - Super draw, beware of the blue player however
Traverse the Outlands - ???? Or do you not have enough basics?
Sakura-Tribe Elder/Wood Elves/Nissa's Pilgrimage/Farhaven Elf - Solid ramp
Eternal Witness - Recursion
Fierce Empath - Tutor
Inferno Titan - Damage
Terastodon - Removal (that can hit pesky lands)
Decimate - 4 in 1!
Would love to hear your thoughts on each suggestion, hope this helps!
Headers13 on
1 year ago
AstroAA on [EDH][Primer] Adeline Anthem Beatdown
1 year ago
I had no idea Chivalric Alliance was a card. That's kind of nifty, but at the same time I feel like your comment highlights my biggest problem with white - all the card draw is conditional. There isn't anything like Harmonize (I know Secret Rendezvous is a thing, but oh hey look it has a condition...), and I really think it hurts the color overall.
Regardless, thank you for your comment!
Flavuss on Discardelves
1 year ago
msimcoe First of all i'd like to thank you for the detailed comment . For the mana base : i was thinking from the start about the fetch+shock lands modern Staples but i tried to avoid them because of the Life loss: with all the dorks that let me add mana while losing Life i thought It was a bit risky to try the Classic fetch + shock and i find the mana fix in this deck to be quite easily manageable . I tried Woodland Cemetery too but i found that sometimes It came tapped early in the game . [Fury] and dork removal Is the reason im playing target discard , to enable the dorks plays discarding their removal spells. But you're definitely right about the pure discard being Better later in the game , especially with Nath of the Gilt-Leaf. I've imagined this list to be a slower Elf ramp: "defending" the early plays by controlling the opponent hand i think its crucial for the strategy. But still , to find the perfect balance between the early targeted discard and the generic discard its something do be done here. I'll definitely try funeral charm by removing 2 target discard cards. I find Devoted Druid to be quite a nice addiction here because It has good sinergies with Tyvar the Bellicose and the +1 Tyvar Kell : to turn the mana dorks into Little beaters throught those cards was one of the approach i took while Building the deck. Do you think that this strategy Is lackluster ( keep in mind the slower-controllish way of this build) ? Harmonize feels good when It hits but you're right , im looking for some other draw engine to keep the flow going and i Will try Beast Whisperer for sure. What do you think about Harald Unites the Elves ? Maybe its Just me loving this card but i think It deserves a Place somewhere ahah.
PS. This Go Blank Will definitely find a Place in the sideboard . Yes , your input has been very helpful.
msimcoe on Discardelves
1 year ago
So to flesh out the mana base, in essence I would recommend: - increasing the number of dual lands over basic lands and the quality of the dual lands, i.e. Verdant Catacombs, Woodland Cemetery and Nurturing Peatland. (Having perfect fixing often is the difference between winning and losing.) - and just bumping up the number of lands to something like 21, I know it would feel weird in a deck with so many mana dorks, but in the outlandish event you face a deck playing Fury or Fire / Ice, I think you'll be happy to have land-drop number four over mana dork number four.
Secondly, since you fancy playing Devoted Druid in the main deck, maybe you could take advantage of her combo potential or at least her synergies with cards like Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler especially in place of Tyvar Kell who I don't seeing being a very impactful four-drop. Or alternatively, you could just cut a few mana-dorks for a playset of Waste Nots who would help get you some advantage off of the opponent's discard. And while on the topic, I would suggest playing more just strict "target opponent discards a card" like Funeral Charm over the hand-hate like Inquisition of Kozilek and Dread Fugue since a.) you don't really care about hating on the opponents pieces as much as just making them discard, b.) instant speed discard is always better than sorcery speed and c.) it scales better into the late game.
As well, side note, Harmonize over Beast Whisperer just seems a little too low-impact for the modern format, sure it's a guaranteed one-for-three, but at four-mana it doesn't touch the board and beast whisperer is probably a better investment with all your small creatures that ramp you into more small creatures ramp imo.
Lastly, you asked for some sideboard suggestions, I might play one or two Crippling Fear as one-sided board wipes. As well, pioneer sideboard all-star Go Blank might be good in this shell with some more main-deck discard synergies. Also, just general good green and black sideboard cards are like Veil of Summer, Force of Vigor and Fatal Push
Thats all that I have for how I might build this list, and I hope this was even mildly helpful! Overall, this is an interesting list! A solid idea that I find very similar to The Rack strategies in modern!
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