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Dark Prophecy Discussion
1 month ago
2 months ago
Reconnaissance (read my deck description for an ideas of just how good this card is here - link below), Shared Animosity , and Mirror Entity deserves spots as finishers. Purphoros, God of the Forge is amazing as well and each vamp you cast domes each opponent for 4. Drop Door of Destinies though as it does absolutely nothing for your current board, costs too much for aggro, and requires gas to fuel it after it comes into play.
I'd also recommend more board protection like Boros Charm , Flawless Maneuver and/or a personal favorite of mine... Scapegoat . Scapegoat allows you to immediately redeploy and get your eminence triggers again while pseudo dodging exile, -X-X, sacrifice, and other hard to dodge wraths (it also doubles as a finisher with Purphoros out). I'd rather sac a token than end up in topdeck mode.
Lastly is card draw which you'll want a lot of. Necropotence , Twilight Prophet , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , and/or Dark Prophecy all work good here. Herald's Horn and Oversold Cemetery both will put cards in your hand as well.
Edgar's Dega Vampires for reference. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated.
3 months ago
Love the way the deck looks. I'm working on a more tuned ($$$) version of Beledros, but I have some pretty awesome budget and slightly pricy options that will hopefully help. Plumb the Forbidden after saccing one creature becomes an instant speed Night's Whisper which is pretty strong already and scales up higher the more creatures and life your willing to pay into it. Mycoloth was a card I ran for a long time till Tendershoot Dryad came around. Tendershoot requires no further investment after casting it, makes a token EACH upkeep like Beledros, and will even pump its own tokens for free after ascending. While it doesn't scale as high as Mycoloth can and does cost a tad bit more $$$ wise, the consistency and efficiency of Tendershoot Dryad is worth at least considering. Bastion of Remembrance is a recent aristocrat card that I feel doesn't get enough attention. As an enchantment it is crazy hard to get rid of and is very budget friendly. Dark Prophecy is a high risk/reward card that can get you a butt load of cards on a budget, but can drain you out if you're not careful. Viscera Seer . Cheap and free sac outlets are incredibly strong and nothing fits that description better than Viscera Seer . At one mana you're hard-pressed to find anything better and also has the upside of being able to sac itself incase someone tries to remove him. Add the scry on every sac and you've got a powerhouse of a card. After Commander Legends it went from slightly costly to dirt cheap.
4 months ago
Not a bad start but there's 3 areas I immediately notice need some work. Finishers, draw, and board protection.
Finishers: First off, drop Cathar's Crusade and don't add Door of Destinies. Both do nothing for your current board, require gas after they come down, and require a hefty mana investment for an aggro deck. Shared Animosity , Reconnaissance (2nd post dedicated entirely to this card), Purphoros, God of the Forge , Cover of Darkness , and Mirror Entity .
Board Protection: Don't overextend into the first boardwipe and lose! Boros Charm , Teferi's Protection , Flawless Maneuver , and Scapegoat are your best options but there's also budget ones like Rootborn Defenses , Unbreakable Formation , etc.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Edgar's Dega Vampires
4 months ago
This deck seems sweet. One thing I think would make it better is taking out some of the generic staple ramp and removal and replacing it with ramp and removal that helps the decks strategy.
For the ramp, might I suggest Priest of Forgotten Gods as a great source of card advantage, removal and mana with all of your tokens. Pitiless Plunderer is also great for fueling the mana needs of decks like this, It is the single best card in my korvold deck and I'd be surprised if it didn't do work here.
For the removal there's numerous options of sackable creatures to pay off all your triggers such as Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Demon's Disciple , Shriekmaw (this feels like too many as you still want a few instant speed, no restriction pieces of removal to save you in a pinch but take your pick of your favourite).
Now for draw, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is one of the most broken cards in any aristocrats deck,it's a sac outlet, removal for small creatures and it draw hella cards, definite include if you can afford the fairly large price tag. Now there aren't that many cards that draw whenever a TOKEN creature dies but there are a few more niche ones that I'd include, Species Specialist would be good if you have alot of one particular type of token and Dark Prophecy is good if the mana base can support triple black. Also if you're worried about having enough nontokens to sac that you won't run the classics like Midnight Reaper i'd take another look at the Judith, the Scourge Diva in the list I'd also recommend the commander storm cards as they seem very cool in the list when you're repetitively casting the commander, especially the red one letting you basically recast the commander for every casting of it before. Theres also Ashnod's Altar and as another great sac outlet for the deck although idk how much you'll need when you've a guaranteed sac outlet in the command zone. If you're looking for cards to cut I'd immediately look at the instants and sorceries that are just generically good if you're planning on building solely around the back side. I'd also look at the expensive token makers such as Marionette Master and Siege-Gang Commander as those are effects you want earlier in the game. This deck seems very cool and I feel like there's a lot that can be done with it and I do love aristocrat strategies, one of the reasons black is the best colour.
4 months ago
Last couple topics,
I made an assumption and grouped Draw above Damage, and Deathtouch above Token.
Deathtouch 16%, Control 16%, Damage/Life 15%, Recursion 8%, Token 6%, Draw 6%, Discard 2%, Ramp 2%, Land 29%
Further on Card Advantage (which includes draw):
I know why your doing it and the thought process behind it, but here's an alternative perspective.
Your cards like Blood Divination , Costly Plunder , Pitiless Pontiff , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest are usually paired with LTB effect (like your damage/life and afterlife abilities), more along lines of Grave Pact (Also Dictate of Erebos , Butcher of Malakir , Dark Prophecy , Nightmare Shepherd , Etc.) or Reveillark / Academy Rector types.
The issue is Blood Divination why not Necropotence ( Greed ) for CMC1 less, and no sacrifice, let's you refill your hand anytime, Grim Haruspex /Etc. Why Spark Harvest / Bone Splinters over Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile or Mortify or even Bloodchief's Thirst / Generous Gift if your after planeswalkers.
So how are creatures getting into the graveyard, if your not sacrificing them along with other effects, a value engine!! Skullclamp is a necessity, Viscera Seer is strong, Phyrexian Altar (this card is cEDH level though), more things like Priest of Forgotten Gods & Ayara, First of Locthwain . Why sacrifice a deathtouch creature to LTB damage/life when you can Corpse Knight instead and get the value up front? Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Village Rites is ok because its CMC1 and Instant, you don't need tutor in battlecruiser/low (up to power 5), but cards like Diabolic Intent which also feed into things like Mausoleum Secrets are value. Ashnod's Altar , Doom Foretold , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , etc.
Key is value in / value out. Don't waste the value out just to enable your recursion. Value-in, Value-out, then recur. More Immortal Servitude (battlefield), less Soul Salvage (hand). Reanimate / Animate Dead (anyone's graveyards), Unburial Rites , Victimize , Agadeem's Awakening Flip, Revival / Revenge , Command the Dreadhorde , Blood for Bones .
Kinda touched on it, in previous. Control 16% is quite a bit, inline with power level. If you replace Ashen Rider , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest . Some should become the "sac outlets", like Skullclamp / Viscera Seer and some just better interactions (Instant speed whenever possible). Anguished Unmaking , Utter End , Swords to Plowshares , Merciless Eviction , Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple (Better Fleshbag Marauder unless your utilizing the Zombie part), Shriekmaw , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , Deadly Rollick , Dire Tactics , Hagra Mauling Flip, Unmake there's lots.
If you want to jump on a teams chat or anything when you have some time happy to help, just discord chat me, hopefully something that helps you focus this deck to a 4-5
4 months ago
Best way to improve a deck is more ramp and draw effects. Solemn Simulacrum , Pitiless Plunderer , and Burnished Hart will be the most synergistic in this deck in the ramp category--but there are some staples that you could also consider, which work in every deck (hence their staple status): Arcane Signet , Mind Stone , Talisman of Hierarchy , Orzhov Signet ... the list goes on.
4 months ago
Osbert I really appreciate your feedback!
I agree on this point since I tend to run out of gas quickly early on. I have since added Dark Prophecy to the deck. I will be replacing Phyrexian Arena with Necropotence somewhere in the future whenever I'm able to save up some cash for it.
I love the aristocrats theme so much that this deck used to be more centered around it. I've since kept a small sac/value package and may end up going deeper into that route when I make bigger changes. Thanks for that input!
Quick question, how do you feel about adding Smothering Tithe to the deck? I've been contemplating adding it back into the 99 due to how powerful it is, but I'm not sure if it's needed since the deck's average cmc is pretty low around <3.00.