Slate of Ancestry

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Discussion (51)

SideBae on Graveyard Shift

1 week ago

Hey man! Welcome to magic. I have a few suggestions... feel free to ignore any/all of them.

1. Dorks are one mana creatures that tap for mana. A lot of the time people don't like them, because before you play with them you don't realize how absurdly powerful they are; people are wrong. I highly suggest running at least a handful of these guys, like Llanowar Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow, Birds of Paradise, Deathrite Shaman, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic... In general, ramping turn one is REALLY strong, since it lets you play a turn ahead of everyone else. Though they aren't one mana, you could also consider some cards like Priest of Titania or (if you're rich) Bloom Tender, which are also pretty strong.

2. Slate of Ancestry is an interesting card to consider. You're running a lot of creatures, so I think in general using Slate of Ancestry will be card-positive for you. Note also that if you discard a creature card with it, Meren of Clan Nel Toth can just get it back for you.

3. Plaguecrafter: This guy is messed up, and he gets you an experience counter from sac-ing himself. Also, once you're at 3 exp, you can just keep recurring him.

4. Abrupt Decay/Assassin's Trophy: Personally, I like Abrupt Decay more since I play in a meta with a lot of counterspells and low-to-the-ground decks, but both are good. Being able to kill any card type is generally pretty powerful.

5. Casualties of War/Windgrace's Judgment: Like (4), these can kill anything. I am preferential to Windgrace's Judgment because it's an instant, but again, both are powerful cards.

6. Nature's Claim is a really efficient piece of spot removal for things like Rest in Peace, Grafdigger's Cage or Leyline of the Void. I suggest running it.

7. If you're in a counter-heavy meta, Veil of Summer is an absurd card.

8. Finally, running Ancient Tomb is worth considering. It's pricy, but the price is lower these days than it has been in a while; the ramp it offers is really, really good.

Cards I'd consider cutting:

Eldrazi Monument: Your experience may be different from mine, but I feel like this card is probably a win-more type thing in that it's only really good if you're already winning the game. You're probably better off just running card draw by something like Phyrexian Arena or Slate of Ancestry.

A few lands: If you run the dorks mentioned in (1), generally people don't play more than 33 lands.

Butcher of Malakir: The effect is good, but you already have Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos. I think the third piece of redundancy is probably too much.

Black Sun's Zenith: Like Butcher of Malakir, I think you have plenty of ways to make your opponents lose creatures already. You're probably better off running more universal removal, like Windgrace's Judgment.

Algae Gharial, Flesh Carver, Scavenger Drake: While these aren't bad, you can probably do better. I think overall they don't have enough punch to end up in a final decklist.

Also, since you're a new player, I'd like to point out edhrec.com is an excellent resource I use a lot. You should check it out if you haven't already.

Good luck!

Azeworai on Big Tokens

3 weeks ago

Ah, tokens! Initiate the throng, then fulminate as such.

I have many suggestions.

Now, typically I am an advocate for running fewer lands in decks, however, this deck has an excruciatingly low amount of card draw. Either make way for lands or add a half-dozen cantrips.

Some of my favourite draw spells you could use are Once Upon a Time, Skullclamp, Adventurous Impulse, and Oath of Nissa. These dig for lands whilst having value late-game.

You have many anthems, some of which are quite lacking in my opinion. Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw, Kongming, "Sleeping Dragon", Selesnya Guildmage, Oakhame Ranger, Ahn-Crop Champion, Cultivator of Blades, Valor in Akros, Spear of Heliod, and Dragon Throne of Tarkir are all quite mana-hungry and little impact. They depend on a board state to work, and without one they verge on useless. I would like to call out Call for Unity in particular as being incredibly slow and capricious.

Haazda Marshal, Recruit the Worthy, and Oakhame Ranger are quite halacious in the aspect that they do not much.

Avoid Fate is interesting, but it doesn't do a lot. Many of the cards in here are restrictive depending on board state, thus I would cut this.

Painter's Servant is cute with your effects that care about colour, but I believe this to be rather inconsistent. Without Lifeforce or Order of the Sacred Torch, it's a two-mana 1/3.

I am unsure as to why Reito Lantern is even here. If you seek graveyard hate, Ground Seal replaces itself, Relic of Progenitus is awesome, as is Remorseful Cleric. Night Soil is on theme.

For what I would include, Rootborn Defenses defends the board, Druids' Repository adds far too much mana, Aura Shards and Aura Mutation shatter and batter, Hour of Reckoning kills many things, Increasing Devotion allows for rebounding eftsoons wrath, Master of the Wild Hunt is one I particularly enjoy, Sprout Swarm is difficult to interact with, Sigarda, Heron's Grace has early and late-game potential, and Devout Invocation creates tokens abound. Triumph of the Hordes can just wipe out an entire table.

This deck has almost no card draw. Mentor of the Meek, Skullclamp, and Huatli, Radiant Champion can draw many, many cards. When you get to it, Sylvan Library is fantastic. Harmonize, Slate of Ancestry, Shamanic Revelation, Collective Unconscious are ways to refill in preparation of a board wipe.

Beast Whisperer is just good value.

Swords to Plowshares, Kenrith's Transformation, and Path to Exile get problematic permanents out of the way at an excessively cheap cost.

I would recommend far more ramp. Llanowar Elves, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, and/or Birds of Paradise. Incredibly quick if you get them out turn one, and oft set you far ahead enough that it doesn't matter when you get wrathed.

That shall be all from me. If you so wish, I have two swarm decks that you could reference for honing your build, each of which have tested well for the years I have had them.

The decklists: Eladamri, Leader of Skyshroud Beseeming Perfection

May fortune betide you, and the tokens your enemies. Farewell!

ShibaWiz on Darien, King of the weenies

1 month ago

Good deck.

Here's some suggestions:

• Would auto include the following cards:

• Eldrazi Monument : Cause you have a ton of tokens to keep this up

• Teferi's Protection : Needs no explanation
• Enlightened Tutor : Tutoring is great
• Idyllic Tutor : What's better than 1 tutor? 2 tutors
• Storm Herd : You have lots of life gain and this card is hella funny as a finisher too. Death By flying horses
• Secure the Wastes : Lots of tokens fast/ Specially good late game with lots of mana to burn on it
• Rootborn Defenses : Gives all your creatures and tokens indestructible. The populate is extra spice
• Luminarch Ascension : Staple in White token decks, also very good early game cause they can't contest it easily

Worth considering: - Slate of Ancestry Can lead to a huge card draw if lots of tokens are out

• Heliod, God of the Sun Gives Vigilance and can create more tokens

crowned on [cEDH] Krenko Combo [[Primer]]

2 months ago

Cool Thread! I came back to my own Krenko brew and was immediately hit by the comment of TheGeneralAdvisor - great advice, man!

If you play Combo and your Commander is part of the combo, it is mandatory to ramp your commander out a turn or two earlier. The before mentioned rituals and lands are a great place to start. Depending on a player's budget, a turn 2 or 3 Krenko should be number one goal. This reduces the amount of interaction your opponents will have since they either tapped out to ramp or don't have all their land colors yet.

Brightstone Ritual and Battle Hymn are very synergistic cards in this deck, but especially the latter won't be useful in early game, unless you had a very specific course of turns. You simply don't have the early game tokens/creatures to cast your commander a turn earlier and therefore a classic Ritual/Petal might do the job a bit more reliably. A higher Artifact count will also help towards Welder and Engineer!

Card Draw: Paired with your extra turn spells, you can do some prepairment in the form of Commune with Lava or Slate of Ancestry . They synergize well with Mana Echoes and might give you the confidence to built up your game-finishing combo a turn earlier. Thrill of Possibility to discard Anger in your opponents end step. So these are my suggestions.

Your removal package is also quite lacking. Depens on your meta, but Abrade , By Force can really help you out against stax and give you some interaction against non-blue spells - in case you need it.

X cost spells also have the neat synergy of working well with your leftover ritual/echoes mana.

hobolegs on Saheeli

2 months ago

Think you had mentioned that you already have Cascade Bluffs on the way, and Spire of Industry was a possibility we talked about, and you might want to consider Castle Vantress . I think now is about the time that you'll want to start honing in on what you want the deck to have a focus on; given the push for eldrazi and X spells, I think you could drop Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer and Thopter Engineer . I'd personally cut Reverse Engineer , Saheeli's Artistry , and Masterful Replication and start looking into more payoffs for Saheeli's +1. You may want to consider one or two of the following for casting on other people's turns to avoid as much trouble on your own turn: Shimmer Myr , Vedalken Orrery , and/or Leyline of Anticipation ; these will also play well into Unwinding Clock . I think Palladium Myr is droppable given if it doesn't have haste it's functionally a Worn Powerstone , and Pristine Talisman , Prismatic Lens , and Izzet Locket can be pretty underwhelming. Blue Sun's Zenith and Expansion / Explosion are draw spells that use Saheeli's ability as a payoff, and BSZ will shuffle back in. If you want more draw, Slate of Ancestry is good if you find yourself with a lot of creatures, Tower of Fortunes if you end up with a lot of extra mana to spend, and Loreseeker's Stone if you find yourself empty-handed most of the time.

Haima13 on Alela, warden and collector

2 months ago

well somehow my comment broke. that sucks. Recommend to remove: Voltaic Servant Sprite Noble Empyrean Eagle Golem's Heart Cathedral Membrane Heraldic Banner Journeyer's Kite One of the things you have that makes things enter tapped. Maybe. And some lands.

Highly recommended: buffs creatures Reconnaissance Path of Bravery Makes stuff cost less Semblance Anvil Etherium Sculptor Recursion Dance of the Manse Stall Standstill

Recommend: Anthem(1-2 more of at most) Spear of Heliod Obelisk of Urd Leonin Sun Standard Stuff cost less Helm of Awakening Jhoira's Familiar Hatefull Diversionary Tactics Suppression Field Protec Retract Draw Slate of Ancestry Etherium Astrolabe Does Everything The Immortal Sun

Haima13 on Alela, warden and collector

2 months ago

So after looking at it real quick, here are lists of lists:

Things I would definitely take out: Show

Voltaic Servant

Voltaic Servant I don't really see much benefit for him to be here.

Empyrean Eagle

Empyrean Eagle If you can get this effect in something other than a creature, suggestions below, it would be better.

Sprite Noble

Sprite Noble Same as above, but this card is weaker than the eagle.

Golem's Heart

Golem's Heart A card that only gains you life is never very good. Suggested replacement also below.

Heraldic Banner

Heraldic Banner There is better ramp for this deck, and better buffs.

Journeyer's Kite

Journeyer's Kite Its too slow. You should definitely be drawing lands with 38 of them.

Cathedral Membrane

Cathedral Membrane Is a 1 drop(ish) but is overall a meh card.

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Ugin, the ineffable

Ugin, the Ineffable He's mana expensive.

Kismet

Kismet nothing wrong with the card, but you do have 3 cards that do this. If you realy like this effect i would consider taking out either Icy Manipulator or Scepter of Dominance .

Hurkyl's Recall

Hurkyl's Recall Rebuild I don't know how much use these are really getting you. They would be great if you had a bunch of little artifacts(cmc<=2). This suggestion can be ignored, see cost reducers.

Still

I still think you could have far fewer lands. idk whats going on with that.

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Cost Reducers

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Etherium Sculptor

Etherium Sculptor This guy is reasonably costed and isn't a 1/1. 0.20

Helm of Awakening

Helm of Awakening Still a drop, all colourless, the h isn't capital for some reason, and doesnt have a creature body that dies to board wipes. Downside that it works on everybody's spells. 4.50

Jhoira's Familiar

Jhoira's Familiar A tad pricier, but is a 2/2 flier taht also makes your commander and saga(?) cost less. 0.30

Semblance Anvil

Semblance Anvil A drop, does cost you a card, but has the potential to make multiple card types of yours cheaper. A really great card. 3.85

Foundry Inspector

Foundry Inspector He's actually a 3/2 for some reason. Costs , has a good body. 0.50

Immortal Sun

The Immortal Sun So this card does everything you want a card in your deck to do. Its just too expensive. 12.00

The Why Show

Cost reducers like this are amazing. The cheap ones let you play out the more expensive ones (the highest cost is still ) for less or nothing as well. The reason you could ignore my suggestion to remove Hurkyl's Recall and Rebuild for this is because these cost reducers would let you snowball back into your full board probably without issue. If done at the right time, you might even net mana. Spells for free are OP~

Draw

Really there isnt too much to add on this point? I'll be sending you Sensei's Divining Top , a Slate of Ancestry would probably benefit you.

Removal

There isn't much removal here. you tend to just make things happen slowly so there is less need to remove, or to make things ineffective by tapping it down it seems. There is good removal in your colors tho, so i would look at the cards like Anguished Unmaking , Angelic Purge . You have some enchant creatures that make them pretty much unusable, but harder removal like Banishing Light or Cast Out would probably be good. I know I told you that you didn't need Meteor Golem but I disagree with me.

Anthems

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Anthems are cards that buff your whole field named after Glorious Anthem . Why? So this is a much larger list than the number of these you should add/have. I think that you should definitely add Reconnaissance . Then maybe pick another 1-2. My next highest recommendation would be for Spear of Heliod , because cards that do more things are better.

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Leonin Sun Standard

Leonin Sun Standard Its nice that its cheap to deploy, and offers the option to buff for a lot. 0.37

Obelisk of Urd

Obelisk of Urd Is narrower by only buffing faeries, but gives +2/+2, and has convoke so it can be pretty cheap. 2.75

Path of Bravery

Path of Bravery Can anthem pretty easily, but has the added benefit of what is probably pretty strong life-gain. 0.20

Spear of Heliod

Spear of Heliod and anthem with the added benefit of removal. 0.85

Veilstone Amulet

Veilstone Amulet Here mostly because I thought this card looked pretty interesting. Could be useful. 3.50

Reconnaissance

Reconnaissance This card is amazing in stratifies that rely on attacking. Creatures that have already dealt damage are still considered attacking, so this gives you're creatures vigilance. You can also remove your creature from combat if its blocked so that it won't take/deal damage from combat. This means that you can sing into the enemies with impunity.

Others

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Dance of the Manse

Dance of the Manse This card seems to do what you want it to. You say that people don't seem to kill you're things tho, so I can't answer that question. 0.40

Diversionary Tactics

Diversionary Tactics You like tapping creatures right? Now you can do it more. 0.20

Suppression Field

Suppression Field Seems good. Very rude. Much not activating anything. Wow. 1.25

Just some other cards i thought you might like.

SideBae on Ezuri! Casual 20/20 in turn 4?

2 months ago

My first suggestion is you include the big three xerox spells: Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm . They may not look like much, but superior card-selection for one blue is hard to argue with. I run them in every blue deck, though I think you'll need more shuffle effects to make Brainstorm good. Though I don't recommend them, you can also consider second-class cantrips like Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand and Opt .

My second suggestion is that you include the one-mana mana-dorks. I see you have Elvish Mystic , but running Birds of Paradise and Arbor Elf can be very helpful too. Utopia Sprawl works really well with Arbor Elf .

I think some of the two-mana ramp spells could be improved; I've never been a fan of Rampant Growth . Consider Nature's Lore (or its $100 cousin, Three Visits ) and/or Farseek . These can get non-basics, like your Breeding Pool , and Nature's Lore etbs untapped.

Evolution Sage is a card that MAY be good, but I'm not sure. Not having an immediate board-impact is a major downer, but its ability may be good enough to make it worth including. Playtesting can help.

Windfall is an excellent card-draw spell if you're down on cards. I suggest running Narset, Parter of Veils to act as a stax piece that is particularly abusive with Windfall . (Note that if you do end up with proliferate effects, you can proliferate her and get extra activations.) Other good card-draw spells include Fact or Fiction , Concentrate , Tezzeret's Gambit , Harmonize ...

Mystic Remora is a GREAT card. I personally think it's better than Rhystic Study , but I'm sure that'll raise a lot of hell (I also think Griselbrand should be unbanned, so I'm used to getting yelled at).

Wirewood Symbiote is a card you may want to consider. It words well with cards like your Reclamation Sage and can protect your guys from getting Toxic Deluge -d, and can buy you more triggers with your mana elf etbs for your general.

Depending on how many creatures you tend to have out, Slate of Ancestry could be a powerhouse. If you don't want to use that, running something like Collector Ouphe to fetch off Green Sun's Zenith can raise your decks chances against storm and the like significantly.

Opposition is a card I've been seeing more and more in powerful EDH decks these days. If you pair it with tokens and Seedborn Muse , Opposition can win the game on the spot. Adding something like Winter Orb to the mix can yield even more fun.

You can get more 'at the beginning of combat' triggers by having more combat steps. Consider extra-turn spells, like Temporal Trespass , Temporal Manipulation , Expropriate , Karn's Temporal Sundering , Nexus of Fate ...

Finally, counter magic is a good thing. Idk what the budget for the deck is, but the best counters are Force of Will and Mana Drain . More affordable cards that are still REALLY good are Spell Snare , Arcane Denial , Negate , Fuel for the Cause and the like. Counter-counters (I call them 'second-order counters,' since it makes me feel smart) are also good. Veil of Summer is the best right now, but Autumn's Veil and Dispel are also really good.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!