Thoughtseize

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

DMFF on Black and White Soul Sisters - MODERN

1 week ago

Firstly, welcome to the MTG community! Modern is definitely a more hostile format, but Soul Sisters can hold their own, especially in Orzhov. One of my close friends in my "close friends playgroup" built his own rendition of Orzhov Soul Sisters as well and it can certainly give any aggro deck a run for its money. Since Lifegain is more of a Control-esque strategy, I do have a few suggestions for your main and side:

Main: - Fatal Push, Solitude (ik a little more expensive, but so so good), or Path to Exile for cheap/"free" removal of onboard threats. I would cut 2-3 copies of March of Otherworldly Light since it requires more resources, but can be great in the mid/late game.

  • Guide of Souls, the new Soul Brother! (It could be called Soul Siblings!) This card is a more powerful version of the Soul Sisters, so I definitely recommend running 4x of this card once it drops in MH3. I would drop the 4x Auriok Champion for this due to the lower mana cost and higher power level.

  • Thoughtseize is a great handrip card and the -2 life is barely noticeable in your build. Until you pick up any copies, I would move Inquisition of Kozilek into your main board for better control and knowledge of your opponent's gameplan right from game 1. I would also suggest a combination of both of these cards in your mainboard to equal 6 total. My wife runs 3 of each in her own rendition of the meta Yawgmoth deck.

  • I would cut the Ghost Quarters for Field of Ruin, reduce them to 2 or 3 copies and move them to your mainboard, cutting some basic lands. My wife actually runs this in her mainboard to mess with greedy manabases to great success.

Side: - Having both Sanctifier en-Vec & Rest in Peace is a bit redundant. I would personally cut them both and replace with 3 or 4 Leyline of the Void to have a good chance of hurting Graveyard strategies before turn 1 even starts. Keep all the Surgical Extractions in though because it is great targeted GY removal that can outright cripple decks.

Hopefully this will be helpful for you, let me know if you have any questions!

wallisface on Sultai Lantern Control

2 weeks ago

As a long-time lantern player myself, I have some thoughts:

  • your only on-board interaction at the moment is the two copies of Drown in the Loch… this feels severely inadequate for cleaning up the board once your lock is in-place. I would be expecting stuff like Prismatic Ending or Abrupt Decay so you could hit a wider variety of answers, or Fatal Push so you could be more proactive. In any case having only 2 on-board interaction pieces feels too low. Added to that, Lantern never needs countermagic because you’re able to soo easily strip the opponents hand and then control their topdeck.

  • Emry, Lurker of the Loch validates your opponents cards too much imo (i.e it means their killspells aren’t dead-draws, so there’s less garbage they can topdeck). I’d ditch it.

  • In a format as fast as modern, there will be lots of instances where you need to get Ensnaring Bridge online asap. I don’t think Ashiok, Dream Render, being a 3-mana cards, helps with that. It’s a sideboard option at-best.

  • Ego Drain feels incredibly dangerous to yourself as far as limiting your own limited resources. You really need Thoughtseize

  • Scheming Symmetry only feels useful if you’re already ahead/winning. Though there’s possibly a few niche situations where it’s helpful, so maybe its fine.

  • you really need a copy of The Underworld Cookbook to deal with aggro and burn, while also ensuring nothing gets under Ensnaring Bridge.

wallisface on Cloaked Whispers

2 months ago

I’m not sure where the first iteration of this deck ended as it got deleted before I could read any closing comments. So apologies in advance if i’m stating something that’s already been discussed.

Your description has the opening statement of “I know the deck is slow, don't really care about that. These are the type of decks I like to build. So don't comment if you're not interested in helping try and help with the deck” - this commentary is at-odds with itself… in that the absolute-best way to make this deck more playable is to speed it up. It’s going to be very hard to offer suggestions that aren’t just “make the deck faster”, because that’s the primary thing this deck soo sorely needs.

Specifically, your deck needs to be doing something in all-of turns 1, 2, and 3 to progress the game… otherwise you just get left in the dust. Your options for that includes:

  • potentially having a ramp engine. Green has loads of 1-mana options for generating mana which could easily accelerate your win condition by a few turns. Ramp also helps mitigate some of the woes you’ll face with this extremely greedy mana curve.

  • potentially having control elements. If you’re wanting the game to go long enough to do your thing, you need to make sure the opponent isn’t just winning. Counterspell, Fatal Push, Thoughtseize etc all play a part in dragging the game out and allowing you time to assemble your pieces.

  • potentially dig through your deck to assemble all the cards you need. Your combo requires a lot of working pieces, and as said before, those Transmute cards are super clumsy. Cards like Preordain, Serum Visions, Opt, and Consider could all help you dig through your deck to try and get your card pieces asap - to try and make a turn 5 win as reliable as possible.

^ each of those three above options could be viable - the important thing is that your deck needs to be working towards achieving its goal from turn 1, not turn 3-4. At the moment your shell is both super slow and super fragile, which is just going to lead it to not-working.

wallisface on Surgical Forfeit

2 months ago

Some thoughts:

  • Lazotep Plating seems really underwhelming considering you have no permanents outside of lands, so all you're really making is a piddly 1/1 army to act as block-fodder. Why not something more impactful here?

  • Why Inquisition of Kozilek instead of Thoughtseize? Particularly in any midrange/control matchup, Inquisition of Kozilek just doesn't hit enough targets. But even in combo decks there's a lot of high-mana cards you'd really be needing to hit.

  • Mind Funeral is possibly the most underwhelming mill card out there - there are a LOT better options.

wallisface on Jund Saga

2 months ago

Some thoughts:

jbump75 on

2 months ago

Balaam__: In the attempt to make a Standard deck idea viable in Pioneer, this is definitely the concern I have as well; especially given the prevalence of Thoughtseize. I've considered adding something like Censor but I'm not sure what to take out, maybe Thirst for Discovery, Faithful Mending, or Consider? Is this what you would do? Any other thoughts? I appreciate your opinion on the matter as I had the same reservations. I guess I was hoping it would work quick enough that this wouldn't be an issue but you're probably right in stating I need to account for this.

YesterdaysGhost on Cash-Strapped Black Racks

2 months ago

Great question, seshiro_of_the_orochi! When I initially built this some 10 years ago Thoughtseize was indeed kept out due to it's price point. It was quite a staple at the time in Standard during Theros block too!

But the main reason it doesn't come in nowadays is the life point defecit for casting. With the speed of Modern and the very precarious position life can be in at the end of a game every 2 life points matter.

Inquisition of Kozilek and Extirpate both fill a similar outcome to Thoughtseize. If someone were looking to use it however I would say you could drop Cry of Contrition and a single Raven's Crime to put three of them into the deck :)

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Cash-Strapped Black Racks

2 months ago

This looks hilarious, love it. Suggesting any other discard spell seems in vain as you seem to be very sure about your choices. Just wanna know, is there a reason other than the price of it to not play Thoughtseize?

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