Thoughtseize

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

Jett2112 on spells spells and more spells

3 days ago

The first step to improving this deck I think is to add 1 drop instants and sorceries to max out the potential to play a spell from the graveyard every turn with Kess, Dissident Mage. Brainstorm Lightning Bolt Thoughtseize etc.

BotaNickill on Divine Penumbra

5 days ago

It is all good amigo! We all have to start somewhere! Happy to help a ninja out! Also, since you are playing black, I would Say to add some sort of low CMC disruption spell like Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek. Path to Exile is also a highly used card in Modern Play.

TheOfficialCreator on Tergrid EDH

1 week ago

I'm not sure Gauntlet of Power or Invoke Despair are necessary.

Cards like Thoughtseize, Ostracize, Inquisition of Kozilek, Harsh Scrutiny, etc. are pretty good with Tergrid s well.

Also, Memory Jar, dear god.

Reality Smasher, Street Wraith, Struggle for Sanity and Wit's End are also possible inclusions, as are Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual.

smilodex on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List] Part 1

1 month ago

@Sephyrias: Raffine is good in many ways. She is evasive, has built-in protection, is fairly cheap to cast and in good colors. She generates value in the form of looting and buffs creatures, which can be good for so many valid competitive strategies like Doomsday, pseudo-Farm, Hatebears, reanimator, etc.

In our opinion there are differences between Evelyn, Anhelo and Zevlor. Sure, they could all win with a certain magecraft combo, but not only the combos matter, also synergy and a lot of other important points like overall gameplay value are part of the evaluation.

Zevlor for example can be part of Dramatic Scepter Combo, and he also breaks some cards like Intuition, Jeska's Will, Praetor's Grasp, Gitaxian Probe/Peek, Thoughtseize etc.

Anhelo is a 3 mana (mostly) do nothing, until you can sacrifice a creature to copy a spell. At least he has good colors and is a 1/3 with deathtouch, but Kess is in most usecases straight up better in competitive games.

Most of the time, we can compare commanders to already existing ones. Evelyn can be compared to Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge, but Jeleva is one mana cheaper, and you have the ability to cast some good spells for free. One of the upsides of Evelyn is the fact that you can straight up win the game with the Worldgorger Dragon combo, BUT this upside is also a bit of a downside, since this combo is way too easy to interrupt and if you mess up, you straight up lose the game.

The list looks a bit different now, since we had to split the Tierlist. We didn't move Alela in a long time. Even if you have to jump through some hoops, Liara Portyr can generate quite some value with Wotc currently printing a ton of good red and white cards, with synergetic effects like myriad and other exile mechanics.

The Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth + March of the Machines combo is very slow and expensive and these cards aren't that great outside the specific combo, whereas Siona is very cheap to cast and also helps to search for the combo piece or a stax piece, while you can slow down the game with stax. Another big upside for Siona is, that she can win through most common hate pieces like Rule of Law.

@knusperklotz: You're kinda right, Baba Lysaga, Night Witch is a shaky candidate. I think she has the potential to be a high power commander. She can grind a lot of value in longer games, but he needs quite some set up to get going. We decided to first put her into mid tier, because she's in Lightning Bolt range and has no impact when she enters the battlefield. But she's definitely one of the better mid commanders. It's also very likely that we put her into high power when wotc release more synergetic cards for this commander.

legendofa on Dragon Control

1 month ago

Drown in the Loch is best in a mill deck. It might not be too bad here, but I would switch it out for some one-mana discard. Dread Fugue is a decent budget option, or Thoughtseize is the power option.

I don't think Castle Embereth is pulling its weight here; the only creatures I expect to see attacking by turn 3 are the Sprite Dragons, and you have better things to spend mana on. Maybe switch it for another Hive of the Eye Tyrant to help fill the four-mana spot.

Eldmoi on Burncard

1 month ago

I didn't do so great at the modern clash event at PAX East, quickly lost to my 2nd opponent's burn deck. On the bright side, each player I went up against gave me some tips, so I received more insight into how to improve this deck going forward.

I am considering adding some cards I recently played in Arena like Thoughtseize, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Tinybones, Trinket Thief, Valki, God of Lies  Flip, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip along with a few others like Surgical Extraction.

I found that playing full playsets of fewer unique cards is more beneficial than playing 1-3 cards of more varied cards. I prefer making decks with as many different cards that can fit a theme, so I may create a different version of this deck in Commander which would allow that formulaic approach.

I was inspired to start playing paper formats again because of this event however, and will create a new Pioneer deck based on elements of this deck except in Grixis colors using cards like Drown in the Loch, Ashiok, Nightmare Muse and Nicol Bolas, the Ravager  Flip.

Overall, I had a great time playing this deck at PAX and definitely have to treat it with some fresh new sleeves!

xSpicyMeat on Ballbreakers

1 month ago

baddabiiing, thank you for the suggestion! You have a good point, I have included Thoughtseize in the Sideboard.

lespaul977, thank you dude! It's pretty fun haha!

wallisface on the modern deck that will make you lose friends

2 months ago

Ok, all goods. I’d be keen to see your competitive build and provide feedback when its made - feel free to tag me in it when it’s up if you want me to have a look :)

Replying to your other comments:

  • Yeah Ensnaring Bridge isn’t cheap so could defo break this decks budget - i saw Saga and made some assumptions on your price-limit, but my bad. Normally in Lantern lists though you wouldn’t have to worry about Bridge being destroyed, because by the time you’ve cast it you’re already choosing what your opponent draws, and have de-handed them of any threats.

  • I’m not sure where the Leyline of Sanctity convo came from (I’d suggested running hand-disruption, not protecting from it), but in any case I don’t think Leyline is worth it. Burn spells and Thoughtseize both kindof play to Lanterns advantage, so don’t particularly need to be worried about. Your deck has much bigger threats to worry about - for example if your opponent has an Eidolon of the Great Revel in their opening hand, you just lose. Likewise if they have Teferi, Time Raveler you’re in big trouble… there are a lot of single-card threats that could win on-the-spot. You not having hand disruption or board-disruption will put you in a tough spot in a bunch of matchups.

  • Most opponents versus Lantern will concede once the lock is in place, so your attempts to troll them into playing forever might not work. You’ll only really manage to entrap newer players this way, and tbh that just feels mean. In any case, with 4x Blessed Respite, you’d still be easily able to continually shuffle both decks before they mill-out, theoretically keeping the game going forever, so Elixer is still a largely pointless addition

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