Infernal Grasp

Instant

Destroy target creature. You lose 2 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Standard Brawl	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

Cynic14 on Chainer, Dementia Master

3 months ago

Slaughter Pact could replace Infernal Grasp.

CommanderNeyo on a milli

3 months ago

Welcome to the Commander! As this is your first commander deck, I highly recommend watching The Command Zone's deckbuilding guide (which you can find on YouTube), it is extremely helpful in knowing how to balance a deck out. After you have watched it, here are a few thoughts on my end:

1. 30 lands is quite low for commander, I would recommend upping it to 38.

2. Syphon Soul seems like it could be replaced, since it drains only a small amount.

3. Eat to Extinction is a lot of mana for removal, and even though it lets you mill 1 you may be better off saving the mana by playing something like Go for the Throat or Infernal Grasp, or some removal that lets you hit enchantments, like Withering Torment or Feed the Swarm.

4. Demonmail Hauberk is a lot of mana and a hefty price to attach.

5. Scion of Halaster does nothing until your commander comes out, and doesn't do much when he is out.

Andramalech on Darkest Heart Challenge - Horror Tribal

3 months ago

kamarupa I finally got around to my review! Let's break it down piece by piece, but lead our review with gratitude and praise. You've completed the challenge! That's awesome because completing any task is worthy of a high-five. Now let's break it down:

• "..To round it out, I included a number of ramp spells, draw card, lots of removal, and a bit of counterspell.." and you did! I'm rather impressed not only by the frequency and presence of your spot removal, but by it's costs, and efficacy and expansive supply. The level of removal reflects that you understand how to protect your deck, play a good game, even if the pieces you're protecting are glaringly out of meta. Who cares about that? We don't. I care about your competitiveness. And it shows. Solid 9/10 for this category, the category of competitive choices.

• I'm going to personally comment on the artistic value of your choices, as it corresponds to the artworks in each card. Your choices are (to me) very apparent, and I refuse to complete this review without bringing special attention to the various printing choices you made, which led to a cohesive list of cards that reflect horrors, and horrific events. It's seriously worth checking out you guys. Infernal Grasp is a choice selection. And surprisingly? Hurkyl's Recall is also pretty impressive, from an artistic standpoint. It invokes eeriness, an unsettling swirled nature.

• This series of collected cards and the artwork attached to them, reflects a lot of advanced choices and a critically-influenced line of decisions. You could use things like Dismember, and is only thwarted by the occasional off-choice like Thoughtseize. Not like it's the worst thing.. but I'm a critic for artistic decision. Some of your choices are fantastic, others like Chart a Course kind of break the illusion. I can't stand by this principle 100% because competitive choices needed to be made. I think overall for artistic value, I provide your deck with a 9/10.

• I now need to address a fundamental issue with Mastermind's Acquisition; the gatherer ruling references that in Casual play this card provides no issue, but in a tournament setting- you would need to fetch a card '..from the sideboard..' of which, in EDH.. there is none. I reference this in some of my rule zero EDH builds. A sideboard DOES NOT exist in EDH, womp womp. I mean, it doesn't affect how I review or feel about your build, but I couldn't do this justice without mentioning this on the off-handed chance you attempt to go to an event with the deck.

• Construction wise, I have a small gripe with including creatures that nowhere include the typing of Horror. This is because with my builds (albeit Wacky Arm, which was a joke of a build.) I chose only creatures that were Horror typing by one way or another. The typical typal support in Adaptive Automaton and Metallic Mimic are not unwelcome for their competitive edge, but rather how I personally feel that it goes against the principle of the challenge. I will consider this a mark against.

• Considering what I said above, I also want to acknowledge that you technically still included exactly 25 Horror Typed creatures. So you did it! My gripe above can't really stand outside of priniciple. Is it allowed? ...yeah, it's just frowned upon.. but what a deck otherwise! Time to wrap up this compliment sandwich.

• Alright! Lets review; Aesthetic, Construction, Competitive. 9/10 in all categories. With regards to how you favored the challenge, I feel confident in giving this deck a solid 9.8/10. So little to comment about what to change.. it's obvious this deck is perfectly suited to the duelist who created it, and it's a great deck at that. Clap for you, and congrats- I'm definitely gonna say your build wins! (imo)

Thanks for inviting me to take part in this challenge with you! I've really enjoyed it.

Crow_Umbra on Is Enchantment Destruction in Black …

8 months ago

I'm pretty excited for Withering Torment in my Black aligned decks that don't have access to White or Green. Three mana is hefty, but it's not nearly as flexible as something like Stroke of Midnight, for a comparable CMC & rarity. I wouldn't replace Feed the Swarm, but might run it as a compliment in more Grixis leaning color combos.

Picking the option to destroy a creature feels less ideal, especially when compared to other creature-centric removal options in Black like Bitter Triumph, Go for the Throat, or Infernal Grasp. If anything, Withering Torment is just Infernal Grasp with enchantment removal stapled onto it for 1 more mana.

I'm seeing more artifact heavy commanders more frequently in my main play group, like Brenard, Ginger Sculptor, Ygra, Eater of All, a Dr. Who Historic Duo, and Rocco, Street Chef, to name a few. Given this uptick in these varied artifact strats, I'm shifting towards more artifact punishing interaction or removal, than I am enchantment focused stuff.

Taida on

1 year ago

You might like Fallen Shinobi in place of Dragonlord Silumgar. It is not a perfect substitution, but I think your deck can easily get some unblocked creatures and ninjutsu it, and the cards you steal can be cast without paying the manacost, so avoids any problem with colored mana. Agent of Treachery is also very cool, but might have the same problem with manacosts as Dragonlord Silumgar, but has the upside of having an effect that is repeated through the turns and also you keep the permanents even if Agent of Treachery leaves the battlefield.

Also, I see the idea behind preferring Bloodchief's Thirst, but instant speed removal can be very helpful, and even though Fatal Push cannot hit creatures as big as Bloodchief's Thirst can, the instant speed makes for it definitely. You can always run something like Infernal Grasp, but for 2 mana you will always have a downside.

Optimator on Mermaider

1 year ago

Infernal Grasp and Baleful Mastery are worth noting. Some of the best removal to come out lately

wallisface on Black/blue zombie control deck

1 year ago

I'd at least replace Go for the Throat with a better killspell, Infernal Grasp is just stronger.

I also think you need to map-out how you expect your turns to be played. Most of the time, when you're casting a creature spell, you'll not have enough mana to use your counter-magic. And, then, when you're keeping up mana for counter-magic, your opponent can potentially play around this and take advantage of you not advancing your board... i'm worried your play patters are at-odds with eachother.

wallisface on Dark Rituals

1 year ago

Your mana curve is pretty high, and you’re pretty low on board-interaction. I’d suggest dropping Grimdancer and Grave Pact in favour of low mana killspells like Fatal Push and Infernal Grasp.

You can probably go down to running just 3 copies of Phyrexian Arena aswell, as it’s not something you particularly want to draw multiples of.

I’m not sure what the purpose of your sideboard cards are here- they don’t look like they’re helping your bad matchups, they’re just “other cards”?