Phenax, God of Deception

Phenax, God of Deception

Legendary Enchantment Creature — God


As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than seven, Phenax isn't a creature

Creatures you control have ": Target player puts top X cards of their library into their graveyard, where X is that creature's toughness"

Phenax, God of Deception Discussion

wallisface on Rat Infestation

2 months ago

Some thoughts:

  • I'm not sure what format this is for, but in any case I assume 60 cards is what you should be aiming for here. While 62 might not seem like much of a concession, its going to make your draws worse overall.

  • Akroma's Memorial feels quite pointless here, by the time you've reached 7 mana you've already either won or lost the game. This card feels like a "win more" scenario. I would say Alrund's Epiphany also fits into the same scenario, it requires an obscene amount of mana and doesn't really help you at all if you're behind, and won't change the outcome of the game if you're already ahead.

  • I think you need some way to ramp up to Thrumming Stone... perhaps Dark Ritual helps here? Also you really want to be running more Relentless Rats to reliably trigger the stone... I'd suggest 1/3rd of your deck be Relentless Rats instead of 1/4.

  • 27 lands feels excessive, even with the large cmc spells mentioned above. I'd drop down to 22-23, and add Dark Ritual.

  • This on face value looks like a deck themed around getting out lots of Relentless Rats... which is why i'm surprised by some of your choices. The mill cards of Maddening Cacophony and Ashiok, Dream Render don't serve any purpose here as they're not enough on their own to ever mill out an opponent. I understand that Phenax, God of Deception might give you some ability to mill with the rats, but in 99% of cases you can just win by attacking with the rats... maybe just run a single copy of Phenax, God of Deception so you can Demonic Tutor for it if your opponent has something like Ensnaring Bridge in play?

Noire_Samhain on LGBTQ+ in the multiverse

3 months ago

They basically went "No homo" with Chandra and Nissa in the War of the Spark novels, in a turn that peeved off the chunk of the fanbase that is LGBT+. Chandra is still canonically omni/pansexual. They screwed the pooch badly.

Niko Aris is nonbinary, going by they/them. They had a big part in the Kaldheim stories. Yahenni, Undying Partisan is nonbinary, from Kaladesh. And its not just because of their race being aether-elementals, Gonti uses he/him. Phenax, God of Deception is an example of a villainous LGBT+ character. He's attracted to men, though not sure whether he's ONLY attracted to them. But he will curse women he feels are taking "his" object of affection away from him.

Gidgetimer on Commander Interaction with Commit//Memory split …

4 months ago

You link cards by enclosing them in double brackets, and can use either half of a split card, or both divided by // to link it depending on how you want the link to appear.

[[phenax god of deception]]




Commit / Memory

Phenax, God of Deception

You need to double space paragraphs to get them to format correctly on the site. I am unsure of why this is, but just hitting "enter" twice between paragraphs is the simplest way to fix this.

As for the actual question; as Raiden said, the commander is staying in the library. There is no zone change for the replacement effect to affect.

If they later draw the card, they can reveal their commander as they draw it and put it into the command zone. If it gets exiled or sent to the graveyard from the library They will be able to use the SBA to put it into the command zone. Shuffling away (no zone change) and casting or putting it onto the battlefield (no commander replacement or SBA) will not allow them to put it back into the command zone.

9-lives on

4 months ago

Obviously If I'm one card from milling, I would mill more. Phenax, God of Deception doesn't require that you have to always tap to mill always, Just gives you the option to, so that works solidly if you play him even when one is using a damage tactic. In my empowerments i'm trying to protect my characters that give all of my needed tactics. It might help if I have a few discard and draw spells in play, then if I want to keep a certain tactic. What do you mean by 'one card from milling and draw a damage creature'? All of my creatures can be both damage or milling, provided I use Phenax, God of Deception or High Alert and Huatli, the Sun's Heart . I don't have any 'milling creatures'. And, even if I can't mill with Phenax, God of Deception , I can still run a damage protocol. Depending on what cards I draw, I can use Phenax, God of Deception first, or damage first. Then focus on those tactics. Like I said, I need a way to choose what I want from my deck, and that's one reason why I chose to use Diabolic Tutor . Perhaps more of these type cards would be best?

9-lives on

4 months ago

The entire point of having damage and mill win conditions is so that I have a few ways of winning. I have 3 win conditions so far: one with damage, and 3 with milling: milling myself Traumatize and Fraying Sanity targeting myself with Jace, milling the opponent with those two cards, and using Phenax, God of Deception if I have a lot of creatures on the field . I want to keep my deck varied, as when I can't win with damage, I can win with mill. Also, legendary doesn't matter; I have multiple copies of the same legendary card because it gives me the draw advantage and if they die i'll be able to replace them. Legendary doesn't mean you can't have more than one of each legendary creature; just not more than one of the same legendary creature. This deck works perfectly as a damage deck already. The milling is just another addendum which also functions off of high toughness as an advantage. If I had Bant colors, I wouldn't be able to use Diabolic Tutor , Phenax, God of Deception , and Thought Erasure . Phenax is what i'm using to mill as a win condition. I would like to use more mana so that I can balance my mana usage, but it's fine for now.

Guerric on Anowon & his 24 thieves

6 months ago

Visions of Beyond looks like a good card to cut. It just doesn't do enough.YourNeighborhoodGhost is absolutely right on Scheming Symmetry . Tutor whatever you want for one mana and your opponent will never see it bc you'll mill it. Phenax, God of Deception and Consuming Aberration are also mill staples. They aren't rogues, but are powerful.

TheVectornaut on High Mill

6 months ago

Millstone , Inaction Injunction , and Geralf's Mindcrusher are three cards that seem on the weak side here. For the first, maybe something like Sphinx's Tutelage could make the best use of your cantrips for maximum cards milled. It would also make the detain card better, although I think I'd still prefer a more permanent answer like additional Detention Sphere , Darksteel Mutation , or the weaker but thematically consistent Deep Freeze . When it comes to the Mindcrusher, I think he's just too slow to only be milling 5-10 cards while not contributing to the defender gameplan. I'd probably just hard swap him for 3 more Wall of Lost Thoughts , Wall of Omens , or maybe Mnemonic Wall . Also, if you don't mind splashing black, Phenax, God of Deception is a great bomb to supplement Doorkeeper s.

carpecanum on Dead: Flooded Catacombs

6 months ago

Maybe some typical mill cards to fill graveyards? Sphinx's Tutelage , Traumatize , Startled Awake  Flip, Paranoid Delusions .

Phenax, God of Deception is a solid blocker and steady mill.

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