Phenax, God of Deception
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than seven, Phenax isn't a creature
Creatures you control have ": Target player puts top X cards of their library into their graveyard, where X is that creature's toughness"
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- King Macar, the Gold-Cursed + Pemmin's Aura + Phenax, God of Deception
- Ashiok, Dream Render + Phenax, God of Deception
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Phenax, God of Deception Discussion
4 days ago
Obviously If I'm one card from milling, I would mill more. Phenax, God of Deception doesn't require that you have to always tap to mill always, Just gives you the option to, so that works solidly if you play him even when one is using a damage tactic. In my empowerments i'm trying to protect my characters that give all of my needed tactics. It might help if I have a few discard and draw spells in play, then if I want to keep a certain tactic. What do you mean by 'one card from milling and draw a damage creature'? All of my creatures can be both damage or milling, provided I use Phenax, God of Deception or High Alert and Huatli, the Sun's Heart . I don't have any 'milling creatures'. And, even if I can't mill with Phenax, God of Deception , I can still run a damage protocol. Depending on what cards I draw, I can use Phenax, God of Deception first, or damage first. Then focus on those tactics. Like I said, I need a way to choose what I want from my deck, and that's one reason why I chose to use Diabolic Tutor . Perhaps more of these type cards would be best?
4 days ago
The entire point of having damage and mill win conditions is so that I have a few ways of winning. I have 3 win conditions so far: one with damage, and 3 with milling: milling myself Traumatize and Fraying Sanity targeting myself with Jace, milling the opponent with those two cards, and using Phenax, God of Deception if I have a lot of creatures on the field . I want to keep my deck varied, as when I can't win with damage, I can win with mill. Also, legendary doesn't matter; I have multiple copies of the same legendary card because it gives me the draw advantage and if they die i'll be able to replace them. Legendary doesn't mean you can't have more than one of each legendary creature; just not more than one of the same legendary creature. This deck works perfectly as a damage deck already. The milling is just another addendum which also functions off of high toughness as an advantage. If I had Bant colors, I wouldn't be able to use Diabolic Tutor , Phenax, God of Deception , and Thought Erasure . Phenax is what i'm using to mill as a win condition. I would like to use more mana so that I can balance my mana usage, but it's fine for now.
2 months ago
Visions of Beyond looks like a good card to cut. It just doesn't do enough.YourNeighborhoodGhost is absolutely right on Scheming Symmetry . Tutor whatever you want for one mana and your opponent will never see it bc you'll mill it. Phenax, God of Deception and Consuming Aberration are also mill staples. They aren't rogues, but are powerful.
2 months ago
Millstone , Inaction Injunction , and Geralf's Mindcrusher are three cards that seem on the weak side here. For the first, maybe something like Sphinx's Tutelage could make the best use of your cantrips for maximum cards milled. It would also make the detain card better, although I think I'd still prefer a more permanent answer like additional Detention Sphere , Darksteel Mutation , or the weaker but thematically consistent Deep Freeze . When it comes to the Mindcrusher, I think he's just too slow to only be milling 5-10 cards while not contributing to the defender gameplan. I'd probably just hard swap him for 3 more Wall of Lost Thoughts , Wall of Omens , or maybe Mnemonic Wall . Also, if you don't mind splashing black, Phenax, God of Deception is a great bomb to supplement Doorkeeper s.
2 months ago
Phenax, God of Deception is a solid blocker and steady mill.
2 months ago
Thank you! I didn't even think about having multiple possible commanders but it makes sense. If money didn't exist I feel like Phenax, God of Deception would be the best for this but I landed at Mirko because he's cheaper and still effective I think. Szadek, Lord of Secrets is another good one. How does it work having the starting cmc be so high at 7? If it gets removed it would suck to put it back for 9 already but I haven't played commander so maybe this isn't as much of an issue. I updated the maybe board to have what I currently own (I know some don't fit but I just wanted to let you know what I'm working with). Once again thank you for helping me on my first EDH!
4 months ago
Interesting concept. I have a couple of thoughts. First, I would switch out the Leyline of the Meek for Sphere of Safety . That Leyline is only useful for CMC redundancy, and adding Sphere on top of Leyline of Sanctity and Suppression Field would give you a very solid defense. If you want to go even further with that, take out a Leyline of Vitality or two for Privileged Position .
Second, if you want a backup win condition, think about Keranos, God of Storms or Phenax, God of Deception . Their p/t drops slightly under Starfield of Nyx , but that shouldn't affect this deck too much.
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5 months ago
Does it count if I lost in a glorious way?
I played my Rankle, Master of Pranks deck, on turn 6 I played a Gray Merchant of Asphodel that drained each opponent for 14 (I had quite a few permanents ramped out with Crypt Ghast and Nirkana Revenant on turn 3 and 4). It was a 5-player game, I extorted a bit, so I was at a comfortable 104 life. I swing in with Rankle, and put the trigger on the stack, choosing all modes. Then it happened.
The Phenax, God of Deception player used a dork to mill himself for 5, putting Tree of Perdition in the graveyard. He then activated the ability on his Lazav, the Multifarious in play to become a copy of the Tree. He tapped the Lazav to switch its toughness with my life total. Then he activated his Thousand-Year Elixir to untap it, then tapped it again with Phenax's ability, to mill me for 104. With the all-modes Rankle trigger... Still... On the stack...