Geralf's Messenger

Geralf's Messenger

Creature — Zombie

Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield tapped.

When Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 2 life.

Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)

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Geralf's Messenger Discussion

wallisface on UB Modern Zombies

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

FlamingHail on AETHERIC SWARM - Vial Zombie Tribal [MID]

2 months ago

Thanks for the reply! Yeah, if you need that exile in your local metagame/no other way to fight Stoneforge Mystic, then the exile matters for sure! It might be something I would board in though, simply because in my experience the discard is relevant more often than the exile, but I could be wrong.

As for the Geralf's Messenger combo, I think you are double counting the messenger return damage.

"I then hard-cast another Belcher targeting Messenger, removing Messenger’s +1/+1 counters. I then sac Messenger to Feeder (2 life loss from Belchers and 2 more when Messenger returns - 11 total).

I then sac Messenger to Feeder again when Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (2 life loss from Belchers, 2 more when Messenger returns, 15 total)."

Starting from when we dealt 7 damage, we have 1 belcher, 1 carrion feeder, and Messenger is already on the battlefield, with a +1/+1 counter. You play belcher, so no +1/+1 counter, then sac (2 damage from belchers, 9 total). Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (2 more damage, 11 total). Sac messenger again (2 damage from belchers, 13 total). Messenger does not return, since it had a +1/+1 counter when it died. Now you go to the unearth part of the combo, which is 8 total damage (4 from messenger ETB triggers, 4 from belcher triggers when you sac messenger twice) for a total of 21 damage, plus the 2 more from sacrificing carrion to itself for 23 max damage.

Xalor90 on Orzhov Gravecrawler/ Zombie Sacrifice

3 months ago

Looks like the only thing currently in your deck that wouldn’t work with Lurrus is Geralf's Messenger.

KingKaz on Orzhov Gravecrawler/ Zombie Sacrifice

3 months ago

Boogsbay Thank you for such a thorough comment and suggestions! You've confirmed my suspitions that this deck is too slow.

I was tempted to take out Cryptbreaker for Undead Augur but was being stubborn since I spent the money on Cryptbreaker already lol. But it makes sense to take them out. No use if I need to tap three zombies and the point of this deck is to constantly be sacrificing them.

Carrion Feeder was on my radar but I figured I already had enough avenues for sacrifice, but it wouldnt hurt to add more. Plus he gets bigger and can become a threat if not dealt with.

I would love some fetch lands, but my budget doesn't right now haha. But I can add it to the deck so that it is fully optimized. Good point with the Godless Shrine with the Castle Locthwain play. I didn't even consider that.

In my mind Geralf's Messenger and Gravecrawler are the ultimate zombie cards and represent everything that a zombiue deck should be. I also wanted some of him, but my budget also doesn't allow it unfortunately.

I liked the life gain that Wayward Servant provided, but I see Corpse Knight would be better. Not only would it enable triggers from Zulaport Cutthroat but also Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia. That's a potential 6 more triggers.

I will gladly replace Blasting Station with Unearth, my budget thanks you for this one haha.

You've got me thinking with Ghoulish Procession oppposed to Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia. I'll need to think on that one.

Again, I really appreciate such great feedback!

Boogsbay on Orzhov Gravecrawler/ Zombie Sacrifice

3 months ago

The deck looks good but seems somewhat slow. Some suggestions IMO would be:

Some considerations:

  • Corpse Knight over Wayward Servant to include Zulaport Cutthroat for ETB triggers.

  • Unearth over Blasting Station if you already swapped out some land for Geralf's Messenger. These two, at the very least, makes the opponent lose 8 life; more with Cutthroat and Knight on the field. Reanimating other creatures is also another viable strategy to get out of a tight situation.

  • Ghoulish Procession over Jadar since it's a nonlegendary permanent that can potentially make more zombies to fuel an aristocrats strategy and trigger ETB and death triggers.

For sideboard:

zAzen7977 on AETHERIC SWARM - Vial Zombie Tribal [MID]

4 months ago

FlamingHail, thank you very much for the detailed comment. I know what you mean about Bone Shards. Once I test Eaten Alive I may discover that I want Shards instead for the extra discard. Eaten Alive helps mostly for indestructible critters like the germ with Kaldra Compleat. But the flavor for Eaten Alive is spot on! ;)

Also I believe you are slightly mistaken with how Geralf's Messenger and Plague Belcher interact. Regardless if I choose to sacrifice Messenger first with Feeder or target it first with Belcher, the outcome will be the same. Below is a slightly different analysis, where I sac Messenger first before I play Belchers. In my original write up, I play Belchers first and then sac Messenger to Feeder after. Regardless, that’s still at least 25 life loss by the end of the turn. To anyone reading this, if I’m missing something big, please let me know.

“I must play Aether Vial on turn 1, followed by Carrion Feeder on turn 2. Next comes Geralf's Messenger on turn 3 (opponent loses 2 life).

Then on turn 4, I sac Messenger to Feeder and Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (opponent loses 2 life). I then use Vial to cheat-in Plague Belcher, targeting Messenger with the -1/-1 counters, removing its +1/+1 counter. Then I sac Messenger to Feeder (opponent loses 1 life with Belcher). Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (opponent loses more 2 life - 7 total so far).

I then hard-cast another Belcher targeting Messenger, removing Messenger’s +1/+1 counters. I then sac Messenger to Feeder (2 life loss from Belchers and 2 more when Messenger returns - 11 total).

I then sac Messenger to Feeder again when Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (2 life loss from Belchers, 2 more when Messenger returns, 15 total).

I can then cast Unearth to return Messenger to play (2 life loss). I then sac Messenger to Feeder and again when it returns with undying (2 life loss from Belchers, 2 more when Messenger returns, 2 more from Belchers - 23 total).

Finally, I sacrifice Carrion Feeder to itself (2 life loss from Belchers).

In total I have drained 25 life from the opponent by the end of my fourth turn.“

zAzen7977 on AETHERIC SWARM - Vial Zombie Tribal [MID]

4 months ago

Hey Kadj, thanks for your comment! I’m on the fence about running the full set of Undead Augur. In the past I’ve been in situations where I draw into too many Augurs at one time and the life loss can get out of hand. I feel like Plague Belcher is very important in this build due to the life loss it generates for the opponent, and it combos so well with Geralf's Messenger, so I’m hesitant to not run a full playset. I’ll have to test the deck out to know for sure.

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