Creature — Zombie
Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield tapped.
When Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 2 life.
Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Geralf's Messenger Discussion
2 weeks ago
Looks like the only thing currently in your deck that wouldn’t work with Lurrus is Geralf's Messenger.
2 weeks ago
Boogsbay Thank you for such a thorough comment and suggestions! You've confirmed my suspitions that this deck is too slow.
I was tempted to take out Cryptbreaker for Undead Augur but was being stubborn since I spent the money on Cryptbreaker already lol. But it makes sense to take them out. No use if I need to tap three zombies and the point of this deck is to constantly be sacrificing them.
Carrion Feeder was on my radar but I figured I already had enough avenues for sacrifice, but it wouldnt hurt to add more. Plus he gets bigger and can become a threat if not dealt with.
I would love some fetch lands, but my budget doesn't right now haha. But I can add it to the deck so that it is fully optimized. Good point with the Godless Shrine with the Castle Locthwain play. I didn't even consider that.
In my mind Geralf's Messenger and Gravecrawler are the ultimate zombie cards and represent everything that a zombiue deck should be. I also wanted some of him, but my budget also doesn't allow it unfortunately.
I liked the life gain that Wayward Servant provided, but I see Corpse Knight would be better. Not only would it enable triggers from Zulaport Cutthroat but also Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia. That's a potential 6 more triggers.
Again, I really appreciate such great feedback!
2 weeks ago
The deck looks good but seems somewhat slow. Some suggestions IMO would be:
Out 4 Cryptbreaker for 4 Undead Augur which gives a lot of card advantage with no life loss thanks to Zulaport Cutthroat and Wayward Servant. The problem with Cryptbreaker is that it needs 3 zombies to draw a card. The Augur also pairs great with Village Rites and Bone Shards for more card advantage. If any board wipe happens, you can sacrifice your zombies to Carrion Feeder to trigger the Augur to easily rebuild.
Out 6 Plains for Fetch Lands that can fetch a swamp (Marsh Flats is at it's cheapest)
Out 1 swamp and 2 Castle Locthwain for 3 Geralf's Messenger. With a smaller average CMC, you can cut a few more lands for more creatures. Keeping just 1 Castle is also good enough since Augur in the main deck gives more cards than the Castle's ability.
Unearth over Blasting Station if you already swapped out some land for Geralf's Messenger. These two, at the very least, makes the opponent lose 8 life; more with Cutthroat and Knight on the field. Reanimating other creatures is also another viable strategy to get out of a tight situation.
Ghoulish Procession over Jadar since it's a nonlegendary permanent that can potentially make more zombies to fuel an aristocrats strategy and trigger ETB and death triggers.
1 month ago
FlamingHail, thank you very much for the detailed comment. I know what you mean about Bone Shards. Once I test Eaten Alive I may discover that I want Shards instead for the extra discard. Eaten Alive helps mostly for indestructible critters like the germ with Kaldra Compleat. But the flavor for Eaten Alive is spot on! ;)
Also I believe you are slightly mistaken with how Geralf's Messenger and Plague Belcher interact. Regardless if I choose to sacrifice Messenger first with Feeder or target it first with Belcher, the outcome will be the same. Below is a slightly different analysis, where I sac Messenger first before I play Belchers. In my original write up, I play Belchers first and then sac Messenger to Feeder after. Regardless, that’s still at least 25 life loss by the end of the turn. To anyone reading this, if I’m missing something big, please let me know.
Then on turn 4, I sac Messenger to Feeder and Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (opponent loses 2 life). I then use Vial to cheat-in Plague Belcher, targeting Messenger with the -1/-1 counters, removing its +1/+1 counter. Then I sac Messenger to Feeder (opponent loses 1 life with Belcher). Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (opponent loses more 2 life - 7 total so far).
I then hard-cast another Belcher targeting Messenger, removing Messenger’s +1/+1 counters. I then sac Messenger to Feeder (2 life loss from Belchers and 2 more when Messenger returns - 11 total).
I then sac Messenger to Feeder again when Messenger returns with +1/+1 counter (2 life loss from Belchers, 2 more when Messenger returns, 15 total).
I can then cast Unearth to return Messenger to play (2 life loss). I then sac Messenger to Feeder and again when it returns with undying (2 life loss from Belchers, 2 more when Messenger returns, 2 more from Belchers - 23 total).
Finally, I sacrifice Carrion Feeder to itself (2 life loss from Belchers).
In total I have drained 25 life from the opponent by the end of my fourth turn.“
1 month ago
Hey Kadj, thanks for your comment! I’m on the fence about running the full set of Undead Augur. In the past I’ve been in situations where I draw into too many Augurs at one time and the life loss can get out of hand. I feel like Plague Belcher is very important in this build due to the life loss it generates for the opponent, and it combos so well with Geralf's Messenger, so I’m hesitant to not run a full playset. I’ll have to test the deck out to know for sure.
2 months ago
Hey StoryArcher, I have a lot of experience with black devotion - I’d like to share my thoughts with you (I am making suggestions regardless of budget considerations, since I don’t see the budget tag):
I concur with the other users above - you need to seriously consider mainboarding more cheap removal. Rider is good, but it’s expensive at 3 mana and also costs 2 life. It’s ok to run 1-2, but there’s a reason why Fatal Push is a mainstay in black decks. Especially if you run a few fetch lands to thin the deck and trigger revolt. Another good option is Dismember, which kills the germ created by Kaldra Compleat and other pesky indestructible creatures for as low as 1 mana. The new Infernal Grasp looks good too.
You are running too many Gray Merchant of Asphodel - 2 is enough. You don’t want them to clog up your hand, and your land count is lean at 22 lands.
Sign in Blood is a weak card because it doesn’t further your board state. Phyrexian Arena is slower, but it draws you a card every turn and adds to devotion. Also Liliana, the Last Hope helps fish for creatures from your deck/graveyard. She is complimented well by Liliana of the Veil, which discards your own cards but her ultimate is game-ending. Geralf's Messenger is good but slow. I would cut them in favor of the Lilianas.
I don’t see the usefulness of Knight of the Ebon Legion. You aren’t running a tribal vampire deck, and it seems out of place. Consider Dauthi Voidwalker to add to your devotion and for built-in graveyard hate. There are more graveyard based decks than ever in today’s meta.
I concur with wallisface - splashing a little white for better removal on the sideboard is a big help in today’s meta. Lingering Souls is very useful to generate pressure in the early game and can be discarded by Liliana and Collective Brutality. Also Silent Clearing is a great way to draw additional cards. If you run 1-2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, you can turn your fetches and Silent Clearings into swamps and save life.
Here is a link to my list, for your reference:
Hope this helps! :)
2 months ago
In my opinion the utility of your creatures having adventure/deathtouch is certainly great value and I think are great picks; however I personally would like to have access to cheap instant speed spot removal... just for an example I'd try to cut 2 copies of Gray Merchant of Asphodel and a single copy of Geralf's Messenger in favor of 3xTragic Slip (or some other ratio of creatures)... Whether they or you swing with a deathtouch creature and when they chump block you can pay to take out an additional creature of value... Vendetta/Disfigure also have there place for consideration depending on your meta.
Just my thoughts on the matter; i really do like your deck good luck and happy brewing!
2 months ago
This deck is so much freaking fun to play, especially if you like old-school 'fair' type decks. Just love how interactive it is.
I haven't played much since the pandemic hit (do people actually still play Modern?), so I haven't had a chance to really review the newer sets - can anyone offer suggestions on how the deck can be improved, particularly with regards to the side-board? It's balanced pretty well right now with a smooth-as-silk mana curve.
Keeping in mind the amount of life-gain in this deck, some of the cards I've been tinkering with (to replace Tymaret, Chosen from Death) are a one-of Killing Wave, Collective Brutality, Essence Harvest, Stain the Mind, Dismember and Torment of Hailfire. Creature-wise I'm also thinking a one-of Mogis's Marauder as a sort of timely finisher or a Nightmare Shepherd.
Would Gatekeeper of Malakir be an improvement on Geralf's Messenger here? I feel like between the hand destruction, all the deathtouch and the set of Murderous Rider I don't actually need that much more creature removal, especially if my opponent gets to choose who goes.
Regarding sideboard, do I need a better means of dealing with Artifacts or Land? If so, what would you suggest?
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