Creature — Zombie
Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield tapped.
When Geralf's Messenger enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 2 life.
Undying (When this creature dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)
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Geralf's Messenger Discussion
2 months ago
I think Aetherborne is a fantastic 2 mana creature in Monoblack devotion and even my own vampire tribal (If you don't know of me, I have the 2nd highest rated vampire deck on the site and I've recently branched out into Pioneer and EDH). In my experience he's incredible alongside Stromkirk captain who makes him a 3/4 first strike deathtouch lifelink on turn 3. But even in non-tribal he's a pretty strong turn 2 on his own.
I would almost say maybe try dropping 1 each of Vampire Nighttarmogoyf (scavenger) and 1 Nullpriest for 2 more lands just to give yourself an easier early game. In tests I ran it feels inconsistent but like the 1/5 times your deck did what it's supposed to it just exploded. Like I think this could be really powerful if you can improve its consistency. I feel like Daemogoth Titan, Phyrexian Obliterator and of course the absolute god that is Grey Merchant of Asphodel are the heart and soul of this deck. You have some pretty nice supporters too like Champion as a reusable sacrifice to the Titans. On that note, maybe look at Bloodghast ? idk.
I do feel you need more removal though. You have a plethora of ways to build a powerful board state but very little in the way of interaction with your opponents.
Oh, have you tried out Geralf's Messenger btw? Old monoblack staple.
3 months ago
3 months ago
MortisAngelus maybe keep the white mana and add in Geralf's Messenger and Solemnity - that combo with Viscera Seer and Altar of the Brood is disgusting. Also, Hall of Heliod's Generosity and Mastermind's Acquisition . You can actually drop green/Melira in favor of Solemnity.
4 months ago
I did this awhile back, and changed my deck up Bastion of Remembrance is a HUGE card for this kind of deck. You can also add Butcher Ghoul and Geralf's Messenger if you want to switch it up and add the Undying Death Combo.
But Bastion is a MUST have in this deck.
5 months ago
ichibancho: Tough question to answer, as the impact of any one card is really dependent on what you're playing against. Suture Priest & War Priest of Thune are both pretty good options from my decklist. A few other options for consideration: Cabal Archon , Disciple of Griselbrand , Leonin Arbiter or Nullpriest of Oblivion . Depends if you want to go the more Staxy route or for more inherent synergies.
I'm sure Geralf's Messenger + Luminous Broodmoth is a pretty fun and convincing way to win a game, but unless you're going to a new tournament with new players every week that shit's gonna get shut down by your playgroup really fast. The same reason I ended up cutting Liliana's Contract + Mirror Entity from this deck. Having Broodmoth out every game would be super! However to build the whole deck with that idea in mind would be foolish. Maybe that's just my own ideology about the game, but I really believe that powerful effects and cards should be nice bonuses when you draw them, not cornerstones to build a deck around. Especially when only one such card (Broodmoth) performs its function, what do you do when it's exiled?
Tutors can mediate a bit of that, but you're playing a Commander that thrives on combining with other 'likeminded' cards. You don't need it to be a Cleric deck to win with Geralf's Messenger and could probably run a different General altogether that would better support your win condition (e.g. Teysa Karlov ).
And you're welcome! Always happy to provide feedback and have a broader discussion! =)
5 months ago
Thanks for the feedback. I think that if I were to add more lands I would follow your advice regarding Night's Whisper and Village Rites and pull those. I went with 3 Midnight Reaper effects, I think that's enough. I originally had Reaper in over Species Specialist but I decided the extra mana cost was worth not losing the life and when Specialist is a creature that's a little bit better Orah death trigger. I kinda pretty much agree with the Daru Spiritualist and Shaman en-Kor analysis, but I'm struggling to not put in any sub-par clerics, and I really didn't want to put in to many clerics with Tap abilities. Geralf's Messenger is actually my primary win condition. There is a way or two to put together infinite death triggers and win through a Zulaport Cutthroat effect; but I decided to skip all that (except for the Cruel Celebrant ) and go with the Geralf's Messenger + Luminous Broodmoth combo, because I already want Broodmoth out every single game. Messenger also combos with Yawgmoth, Thran Physician or Conspiracy + Suncleanser .
Thanks so much for your input!
Of the two drop clerics that are not A-Listers, which have you found to be the most impact-full?
5 months ago
ichibancho: That's a nice looking deck list! The only hangup I have is that you're only running 30 lands. Nothing in your deck is terribly expensive to cast, I think 5 being the highest CMC. You've got some ramp creatures and spells that I think are kind of redundant given the low casting cost of the deck. More often than not I think you'd prefer to draw a land than Priest of Gix . Same goes for Land Tax & Tithe . All great spells in their own right, but generally speaking I think hitting land drops every turn is going to be better for the deck's performance. I'd aim for 34 or 35 lands. =)
There's a few creatures in there I wouldn't bother with. Daru Spiritualist , Shaman en-Kor and Geralf's Messenger are all places I'd be looking to add lands or upgrades. With Conspiracy out Geralf's Messenger is pretty sick value, but to me that's not enough of a reason to keep him. If you're looking for the life-loss I'd suggest Zulaport Cutthroat or Bastion of Remembrance .
I tried to build this deck to function competently without Orah in play. Especially if you're winning the game, your opponents are definitely going to try to keep your Commander off the board. Sometimes I am a bit short on Clerics, but because the deck doesn't hinge on Orah's ability it has never really been a problem. One game in particular I was kind of frustrated that I couldn't hit a 3 drop Cleric for combo chains, but I ended up bleeding my opponents out with Karmic Guide + Reveillark + Zulaport Cutthroat haha, so it really depends on how you play the game out more than the tools you're drawing. =)