Each other player sacrifices a creature. You create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token for each creature sacrificed this way.
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Syphon Flesh Discussion
3 months ago
Cool deck! You might like these: The Chain Veil , Rings of Brighthearth , Stolen Strategy , Etali, Primal Storm , Demon's Disciple , Merciless Executioner , Slum Reaper , Syphon Mind , Syphon Flesh , Mana Geyser , Archfiend of Depravity , Empowered Autogenerator , Thran Dynamo , Ensnaring Bridge
4 months ago
Holy Broly, this is even more terrible than I had imagined. Some other cards to consider:
Painful Quandary is simply beyond obnoxious here. The Eldest Reborn is similarly nasty. Might I suggest Grave Betrayal for when Tegrid isn't around? Merciless Executioner and Syphon Flesh are more sac-effects. What's more, maybe Grave Pact , Dictate of Erebos and maybe Butcher of Malakir . Oh, and in case you want to play the nastiest boardwipe ever: Torment of Hailfire .
7 months ago
You want to be left alone until you can cast your angels. Cards like Thalia, Heretic Cathar & Kambal, Consul of Allocation can help while the other players are going to hate you more. Making it a little harder in the mid/late game. I would defiantly skip Thalia, Heretic Cathar for that reason. Kambal, Consul of Allocation can at least deal damage and gain your life.
Lives are a resource for sure. Just watch out with Vona, Butcher of Magan that he will not suck you dry. That is a woman's job XD.
Killing Wave you want to cast for x is high. Do really want to pay that much life for all your creatures? I would skip this and play a real board wipe.
I think that you will not use Obzedat's Aid very well. You can get back an artifact (mostly ramp in your case) == bad. You can get back a planeswalker (if they got it away once, they can it again if you spent your turn on returning it) == (in my opinion) bad. You can get an enchantment back == good (in some cases). Most of the enchantment won't reach the graveyard. But it can good. You can get back a creature == good for less mana. There are a lot of better regeneration spells. They can be used more or for less.
That is why I would suggest not to play Obzedat's Aid. It is not mana efficient enough versus versatility.
Your creatures will not always be the biggest on the table. But why do you use Ethereal Absolution instead of the cheaper options? Glorious Anthem, Always Watching, Commander's Insignia, Force of Virtue or Spear of Heliod. Graveyard hate is a benefit. But I think you can spend your mana better than that.
True Conviction is good but watch that one. Ask yourself "Do I want to play it? Or do I prefer something else? When is this good and when is it bad?". I think that it is bad in most cases and too late when you need it.
I understand that you want the lifegain and ping from Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord. But know that the -x you can use it on 9 creatures (for now) on the turn it enters the game. Also, remember that the lifegain is only for during your turn. Is it worth it?
I don't think that Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath can give you a lot of value. It can be me but I don't like this card.
Why Elspeth, Sun's Champion? You get tokens for 6 mana or destroy all your creatures and some of the opponent creatures. Is that worth it? Or do you play it because you have it lying around?
For Aetherflux Reservoir you probably will never be high enough with this on the board. You don't cast a lot of spells in a turn so you must be happy if you gain 3 lives in a round from it. This is not the deck for it.
Moonlight Bargain is 5 mana + 10 lives for draw 5. Promise of Power is the better version of it. It is on sorcery speed, but cost 5 lives less and you can also get a big beater from it if you pay extra.
For now I think that you are not using enough instant speed tricks that require you to hold up mana. That makes that when you hold up mana for Batwing Brume there is a big chance that you don't need it now and want to cast it later instead. Making you not spend some mana in the round. I would skip this card.
If I look at the curve then I would think about playing 36/37/38 lands. You need a lot of mana for your creatures and you miss green to ramp well. You can use cards like Hagra Mauling Flip & Ondu Inversion Flip to make it a little easier.
10 months ago
I would cut Conspiracy, since most of your creatures are zombies anyway and little tokens you create, you could just sacrifice asap with Ayara/Conrad on board.
Prismatic Geoscope - read rules on Gatherer.wizards.com - its 5 mana rock, that enters the battlefield tapped and can produce only one mana = useless in mono color deck. Better go with Sol Ring/Mana Geode/Arcane Signet are better options for that.
I use Tortured Existence+Desecrated Tomb in my For the Void deck and its just pure awesomeness. Every activasion of TD triggers Syr Conrad's ability twice (one creature coming out of you GY, another one coming in) and DT gives you 1/1 BLACK bat token with flying (which matters for Ayara). Its also insant speed activation, so you can use them to create flying blockers and a lot of tokens to sacrifice. Add in Phyrexian Altar and you can go infinite with either Ayara or Syr Konrad.
Sanguine Bond - With weak life gain in this deck, I wouldnt bother with this. I would replace it with more ramp - Caged Sun/Black Market or Songs of the Damned (which would work even better with Buried Alive), etc.; Village Rites would be very nice card draw (of course Phyrexian Arena, Necropotence is a big thing too).
Liliana of the Dark Realms could be also pretty nice for ramp.
You can always keep Sanguine Bond and throw in more life gain stuff life Whip of Erebos/Dread Presence/Ivory Tower/Venser's Journal or graveyard hate cards like Crypt Incursion/Suffer the Past.
Woe Strider could be used as instant sac outlet for your Ayara, with a 0/1 WHITE token and scry 1 as a nice bonus.
Cabal Coffers,Lake of the Dead,Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - also very good lands for mono black decks, just not for low budget decks. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - probably not worth it if you dont run that many non-swamp lands.
Cards I would cut off:
Forlorn Pseudamma - 4 cmc 2/1, that needs to be tapped and pay additional just to make 2/2 zombie seems not very good.
Piper of the Swarm - they only thing making rats is Piper and Plague of Vermin (which is ok though). Piper works much better in Ayara rat decks. In this almost zombie tribal deck, Piper just doesnt really fit.
Syphon Flesh - Very independent on your opponent's board state and number of opponents.. So its kinda 50/50.
Conspiracy - Unless you're going to do some shenanigans with making non-zombie creatures and tokens into zombies (I counted 10 things in total that are either non-zombie creatures or make non-zombie tokens), I really wouldnt waste a card space with it, unless you can do some absurd amount of tokens.
Prismatic Geoscope - as I already said above.
1 year ago
As we mentioned, I think the best thing for Thrax himself is to get him on the field a turn or two early. Mana rocks are going to be the thing, since we can't make extra land drops with green. Hopefully we can get Thrax down turn 5 or so, so rocks costing 4 or less are where it's at. My favorites are Chromatic Lantern, signets such as Izzet Signet, and others that make your off-colors since we're focusing black with our mana. Altars such as Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar might be the end goal here, given the sacrifice subtheme with the Pact effects.
Some extra card draw might help get us the mana and rocks we need on-curve. God-Eternal Bontu pairs with pact effects for a blowout, Cryptbreaker turns your bodies into cards and your useless cards into bodies, and Midnight Reaper/ Undead Augur are less dangerous to you with your sacrifice outlets to make sure they don't hurt you too much. Corpse Harvester plays triple duty as ramp, tutor, and sac outlet.
I'm going to further push the sacrifice subtheme and see if we can shore up one of the weaknesses Thrax shares with Savra...large creature armies. Archfiend of Depravity and Vona's Hunger will stop a billion saprolings from getting you down, and Butcher of Malakir seems like a good redundancy piece. And it might not be the best, but I really like Syphon Flesh in here.
Also, if you're going for stealth Liliana tribal, you're missing OG Liliana Vess :P I also like Angrath, Captain of Chaos in here (I wouldn't even make a token with him...just leave him up as a harder-to-kill enchantment)...probably better than most of your Lili options if you're not married to the 'tribe'. Last Hope and Heretical Healer would be my picks for the weak links of the planeswalkers you do play.
THERE ARE NO INSTANTS IN THIS DECK?! Let's grab some versatile ones, so I don't start thinking I can free-roll on your turn. Crosis's Charm, Soul Manipulation, Grixis Charm, Silumgar's Command, and Lazotep Plating are some of my picks for cards that can always find a use.
1 year ago
Nice list! You might like these: Chittering Witch, Pitiless Plunderer, Whisper, Blood Liturgist, Cauldron of Souls, Champion of Stray Souls, Black Market, Kaya's Ghostform, Woebringer Demon, Merciless Executioner, Slum Reaper, Syphon Flesh
1 year ago
Thank you Rabid_Wombat for commenting and for the link to your deck.
I am looking to include Siren of the Silent Song and Vizier of the Scorpion , so please tell me which creatures specifically you would cut and why. I would aim for 37 creatures total, which would allow mw to run Syphon Flesh and Drown in the Loch .
Living Death is a great card, but this deck is focused on building a token army, not to mention several effects that exile creatures from my graveyard, so it feels somewhat counterproductive in this context.
1 year ago
Siren of the Silent Song is a favorite of mine. Also, no Empty the Pits , Syphon Flesh , Vizier of the Scorpion , or Moan of the Unhallowed ? Gotta go wide! I also recommend Stitcher's Supplier , Returned Reveler , and Crow of Dark Tidings . Stocking the graveyard is a good way to spend an early turn, so you can start getting value right away when TSG hits the board, and the mediocre bodies don't matter later, since they can come back as 4/4's. I also recommend Mire Triton and Tymaret Calls the Dead when Theros Beyond Death comes out.