Whenever an opponent discards a creature card, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Whenever an opponent discards a land card, add to your mana pool.
Whenever an opponent discards a noncreature, nonland card, draw a card.
|Want (2)||theoriginalbugg , Darimasus|
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|Commander 2016 (C16)||Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Waste Not occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.03%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
UBR (Grixis): 0.66%
Waste Not Discussion
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
- mistborn314 I'm aware of the primer problem, but I'm short on time to fix it right now.
Dream Halls is basically a double edged sword (a high risk high reward play). When you cast it, be prepared to kill or die this turn. The way I usually play it is setting the board first (1 or 2 cards that deal damage on discard/draw) and having a wheel in hand to cast after the DH. I run a lot of wheels in this deck, most of the times I'm able to chain 3+ wheels and win the game, but if you want a more "safe" way to interact with DM, try adding more counters and cards like Grand Abolisher.
I used to run Kess, Dissident Mage but people always shut her down pretty fast. I've been thinking about Yawgmoth's Will for some time , but I don't have the money for it right now. Underworld Breach is a nice substitute, thogh.
I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllyy like Hive Mind, Omniscience + Show and Tell , Torment of Hailfire, Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter (won some fun games with these cards), but it is quite understandable for someone to cut them off (I even recommend it in the primer, before the code start trolling me lol).
Thank you a lot for the info exchange and sorry it took me some time to reply! o/
4 weeks ago
Haha Rat-ck, as it shall now be called, seems like an interesting idea maybe for another time.
So I guess my question now is what to take out/cut down on.
I put in 4 Barren Moor and threw in 2 Westvale Abbey Flip just in case. Not sure if Oketra's Monument can fit in the deck but it would be rather interesting to get double the creatures out in order to keep feeding Ayara, First of Locthwain and maybe Priest of Forgotten Gods as well if I am in a bit of trouble.
I like all these cards you have suggested, and I greatly appreciate the help.
The logistics are going to be difficult.
4 weeks ago
Thanks for the comment.
Very True, I did not think about taking Gnat Miser out as, like you said, is very situational.
I definitely like Changeling Outcast moving Throat Slitter to the mainboard might work after that change and adding Okiba-Gang Shinobi may help with discard as well. If that seems viable I really like Waste Not because of that mana and card ramp. I just need to figure out what is going to be taken out. Icon of Ancestry seems good, but im not sure how well it will fit if I am going more towards discard now.
How do you like Ayara, First of Locthwain (even though it is not a rat) as well as Piper of the Swarm and Nezumi Shortfang? I think the quickness of this combo can really come in handy. Create rat > gain 1 life/deal 1 point > sac rat > draw a card. All of that for 2 mana then having damage continue every turn they do not have cards in hand. (i.e. sort of like The Rack)
Thank you again for the feedback and suggestions. I made a could of changes accordingly.
4 weeks ago
I don't know how effective Gnat Miser is in this deck as it pretty situational. Perhaps Changeling Outcast would be a better fit here since it comes out just as quickly, is a rat, and is a better enabler of Ninjutsu. If you want to go heavier towards discard, I would suggest Waste Not as it provides some advantage regardless of what they discard. Icon of Ancestry can help pump and filter for more rats to your hand. Hope this helps.
1 month ago
TrEndKillHerEsy I'll be sure to put Waste Not in my upgrades list. It is nice, and one of my favorite cards period, but I, unfortunately, do not have space in my budget for a $24 playset. Good upgrade tho for later down the line.