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- Apocalypse Hydra + Gyre Sage
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Legality
Format | Legality |
1v1 Commander | Legal |
Archenemy | Legal |
Arena | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pioneer | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Gyre Sage
Creature — Elf Druid
Evolve (Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, if it has greater power or toughness than this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
Add for each +1/+1 counter on this creature.
Rakious07 on To the combat step
4 months ago
Loyal Guardian, Gyre Sage Mana, Gruul Beastmaster, Renata, Called to the Hunt, Kodama of the West Tree Ramp, Armorcraft Judge Draw, Rogue's Passage, Rishkar, Peema Renegade Mana, Thundering Raiju, Fertilid Ramp, Champion of Lambholt, Chishiro, the Shattered Blade, Renegade Krasis, Forgotten Ancient, Kurbis, Harvest Celebrant Protection, Oran-Rief Ooze, Kami of Celebration Card advantage, Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider.
DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep Fungal Shambler …
4 months ago
FormOverFunction, this deck does not have a great emphasis on +1/+1 counters, so Gyre Sage would not be a good match for it, and, even if that were the case, I believe that Kami of Whispered Hopes is superior to Gyre Sage in the majority of situations. Similarly, this deck does not have many, if any, zombies, so Undead Alchemist is also not a good match, for this deck.
As for Phenax, God of Deception, he is a great recommendation, so I think that I would like to wait to receive several more responses, before I make a decision, on this matter.
FormOverFunction on Should I Keep Fungal Shambler …
4 months ago
I was thinking about Gyre Sage, in an attempt to leverage the counters that get put on mimeo. I don’t know if that’s worth it, but I’m going to think more about those counters, because there might be something weird in black or whatever that benefits from getting counters. The other thing I was thinking about was Phenax, God of Deception, which could change the operation/play of the deck pretty significantly. You have a lot of pips in your creatures, so you’d probably have him active reliably. Phenax made me think about Undead Alchemist, which makes more mill, but that guy exiles which is the exact opposite of what you’re looking for... I’ll let you know what I think of regarding how to benefit from the +1/+1 counters (other than the normal crashing around).
rckclimber777 on Build a Deck with me …
5 months ago
Welcome back to another episode of Build a Deck with Me. In the first two episodes I focused on a couple decks that want to go infinite and combo out. I realize that playing infinite combos is not everyone’s idea of a good time, but one of the things I enjoy is finding cool interactions/ways to break cards. So today instead of finding ways to break cards, I’m simply going to start with a card that is already broken and build a deck around it. That card is Voja, Jaws of the Conclave. Ok, so maybe it isn’t broken, but you have to admit, you see this good boy on the field and you need to find a response quickly.
Research
In the last episode, I had some comments that suggested I talk about some of the general research that goes into deck-building. One thing to keep in mind is that when you’re building a deck there are general archetypes that exist and are fairly well known. These can often serve as models when thinking about what cards to use, although relying too heavily on them long term can diminish creativity. If you’re just starting out though, by all means run over to EDHRec and find what cards usually go into a counters deck or a tribal deck (spoiler alert that is what we’re building here). One of the things that I do that helps my deckbuilding is watching youtube channels that play commander. This includes: The Command Zone, Tolarian Community College, Commander at Home, and Elder Dragon Hijinks. There are many others out there, but these are the ones that I’ve watched more than a couple episodes of. As I’m watching an episode, I find myself thinking, “Wow I want to build something like that” or “I really liked the interactions with that”. For instance, there was a Commander at Home game where I got to see the interaction between Dihada, Binder of Wills and Odric, Lunarch Marshal and now they’re sitting on my desk, waiting to be built. Today’s episode is the result of one such instance. I watched The Command Zone episode that covered Murders at Karlov Manor. In that game, the Voja deck was a beast. It was fast, it made huge creatures, it drew tons of cards, and it just couldn’t be stopped, oh and the commander was a big puppy dog (wolf, puppy same thing).
To start building, I went into Gatherer and just began looking for a few things like Wolves, Elves, and Changelings. I started to realize that there are very few changelings and the wolves out there really aren’t that great outside of a few like Hollowhenge Overlord. So I turned back to the Command Zone for some help. They post their decklists on the videos and I began scrolling through it and much to my surprise, the list was similar to the ones that I had found, but wasn’t sure about like Ferocious Pup and Universal Automaton. These aren’t good cards unless you have something that really wants creatures on the field. And that’s when things started to click. The support for Voja didn’t necessarily need to be super strong in their own right, it just needed to enable him to do more.
Changelings
First of all, Voja is an interesting card because it wants both Elves and Wolves on the field. Most tribal decks want just one tribe so it almost feels like you have to make a choice between one or the other here. Well I don’t like choosing between two good options. It’s like deciding between chicken nuggets or a chicken sandwich at Chick-Fil-A. I say both! (I also might need to reconsider some life choices, but oh well)
Changelings are great because they have all creature types which means any tribal deck can use them. Some are extremely powerful, while others just have an interesting creature type. In this deck, however, we want to focus on low cost creatures. If they do something cool, bonus!
Realmwalker is awesome because it is every creature type but it can also cast creatures from the top of your library which instantly gives you card advantage, we will likely choose elf as our creature type when it comes in because they generally are going to be our lower cost creatures, our mana dorks, and likely the more prominent tribal type in our deck.
Remember any changeling on the field will trigger both aspects of Voja’s triggered ability so a Universal Automaton becomes a 1 drop enabler for both adding counters and drawing cards. Irregular Cohort provides two 2/2 bodies both of whom are changelings and give us more counters and cards.
Of course there are two cards here that are just amazing. Maskwood Nexus which makes all your creatures all creature types, and Shields of Velis Vel which does the same thing in instant form. Both are game changers with voja.
Elves
When it comes to elves, we generally want to have mana dorks. This is going to ramp us out quickly, but also allow us to have bodies out there to add counters to. A couple standouts besides the normal ones like Llanowar Elves are:
Gyre Sage who is going to get huge thanks to Voja.
Beast Whisperer will draw you lots of cards because we are going to be a creature heavy deck.
Yeva, Nature's Herald is also helpful in being able to get your cards out on your opponent’s turns.
All the versions of Tolsimir are great because they often come with a wolf token in tow.
Finally there is Shalai and Hallar… When you’re adding counters to every creature on your board equal to the number of elves you control, this card can take out an opponent.
Wolves
There are a few wolves out there, but its surprisingly fewer than you would think. Hollowhenge Overlord is really good, and so is Ferocious Pup. You play it and suddenly you have two wolves which means two more cards when Voja attacks. Another great wolf is Roaming Throne. I know what you’re thinking, “it’s a golem.” In this deck, it’s a wolf… trust me. Roaming throne will double all of Voja’s triggered abilities and now you’re thinking “Voja only has one triggered ability.“ Actually, Ward is a triggered ability. Which means now in order to target him, your opponents need to spend 6 mana!! So you swing with Voja, let’s be conservative and say that you have just llanowar elves, Voja, and roaming throne, you add 2 +1/+1 counters to everything and you draw 4 cards. Speaking of doubling that trigger: Annie Joins Up. A super underrated card so far and triggers on Voja, Shalai, and Tolsimir.
Other fun stuff
There are a couple other things that help support Voja as well. Counter multipliers and additional combat steps are all good things for this deck. You don’t want to put too many of those in though because when push comes to shove you’re likely going to just want a creature to play instead of another counter multiplier. I have Kami of Whispered Hopes in the deck, because it adds counters, but it also produces a crazy amount of mana which I can use to empty my hand of creature cards. Hardened Scales is fine and even Branching Evolution feels worthwhile, but I chose not to add any others.
For additional combats I added only two cards, one was Relentless Assault and the other is Great Train Heist. The latter is great because it has more versatility, is an instant, and costs the same as relentless assault for its first ability. Both of these cards can win the game pretty easily.
There are also wolf producers like Howling Moon which I’ve played in Arena with great results. (also pairs well with Tocasia's Welcome). Sword of Body and Mind produces wolves, gives protection, and mills your opponent. Arlinn, the Pack's Hope Flip is another powerful card since it produces wolves, but can also give you flash on your creatures.
Finally, there is a card that I’m proud to say I noticed before it became super popular. Silver Shroud Costume. I remember playing it in the dogmeat deck and thought, this is good, I’m going to put a copy into voja. At that time it was $5. It has since surged to $20 and there is a reason. It can flash out and attach to Voja, who is now hexproof, (in case ward 3 wasn’t enough) and unblockable gg.
Card Draw, ramp, interaction
Don’t forget your interaction. Just because Voja has ward 3 and is hard to spot remove, doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to be protected. Flawless Maneuver, Heroic Intervention, Teferi's Protection etc. will help keep him and the rest of your creatures safe.
As far as ramp goes, Voja wants creatures which means a lot of ramp is going to be in the form of mana dorks not mana rocks or traditional green ramp spells. I still added a few green ramp spells, but its definitely fewer than some of my other green decks.
Card draw is also a little different here. We’ve got Beast Whisperer and Tocasia's Welcome already and they work really well with the deck since the Beast whisperer is also an elf and tocasia’s welcome triggers with all of our mana dorks which we can flash out on other turns as well. Voja of course is the main card draw engine (seriously a commander who draws cards is just waiting to be abused). Other good cards here are Inspiring Call and Rishkar's Expertise.
About Card Draw
One quick note on card draw that has recently changed the way I think about it. I used to separate card draw into two different categories. Card draw engines which are ongoing effects that will give me cards as long as they remain on the field. The other is simply cards that draw more cards. Previously, I assumed that the former were excellent cards and the latter were well… not great. But as I was listening to The Command Zone they started talking about cards and the amount of triggers you can expect to get in a single game. This changed the way I thought about it. A card like Rhystic Study is great because you are likely going to get some cards from it, but your opponents can pay the 1 or they can remove it. The idea is to think about your card draw engines in terms of the average cards you get from it. This helped me starting think about the usefulness in a card like Inspiring Call which is likely to give me 4-5 cards when I play it, at least. Rishkar's Expertise similarly will net me upwards of 7-10 cards and play a spell from my hand. Meanwhile, rhystic study, which is a great card, will likely get me 5-6 cards before being dealt with, sometimes only a couple. It helped me shift my thinking and made me consider other cards that I had previously dismissed.
Lands
Not a lot of utility lands are needed in this deck, I did like Rogue's Passage, because a lot of times Voja is swinging for lethal commander damage. Making him unblockable is great.
Here is the final form: Voja, the good boy
And by final form, I mean the form I’m currently playing, but likely will change because decks are always being updated and changed. As always, hope you enjoyed the article and if you have any commanders or interactions that you want to see built, let me know in the comments.
Profet93 on
6 months ago
Some are better or more budget or others, just wanted to show you everything to consider
Tsukimi on
9 months ago
So many new exploratory bant commander applications, this is one of the combos I was most excited for, but really not into the UB stuff so gonna wait until they have mtg cards. Also your last comment is right about Ahau as far as I know.
For suggestions:
Surprised Seedborn Muse isn't on the list. Always good to have a backup plan if your commander is removed a lot, and more importantly SB Muse untaps all of your lands each turn. Without having enough mana flash alone often falls short in multiplayer games. Seedborn Muse will also help get your commanders out in a single round. To this end more cheap mana dorks would help like Delighted Halfling or Gyre Sage because they will untap each step with your commander.
You have a lot of things that give counters but not a lot of payoff, cards like Abzan Falconer and Zegana, Utopian Speaker come to mind.
Big fan of Inspiring Call in counter decks too.
I have a Bant token deck that has a lot of good small-guys-who-make-other-guys type cards like Aether Channeler, if you want to check it out for suggestions. Can't Catch Me, I'm the GingerBant Man! [Primer]
I see March of multitudes and flurry of wings, I've tried to run a lot of cards like that but I've found they almost always want to be played later in the game. If you want to have smaller pieces set up for before your commanders come out, cards like Aether channeler and mana dorks will go a long way. Creatures that make creatures will work better with the convoke theme as well. Very fun and original looking deck!
tindolos on Paradox Power - Upgrade
9 months ago
Initial Changes
Out
- Lunar Hatchling
- Frost Fair Lure Fish
- Karvanista, Loyal Lupari
- The Fugitive Doctor
- Jenny Flint
- Madame Vastra
- Graham O'Brien
- Bill Potts
- Start the TARDIS
- Flatline
- Truth or Consequences
- River Song
- Heaven Sent
- Psychic Paper
- Fugitive of the Judoon
- Become the Pilot
- Twice Upon a Time
- Thijarian Witness
- Dan Lewis
- Strax, Sontaran Nurse
- Confession Dial
- Ponder
- Preordain
- Talisman of Curiosity
- Talisman of Impulse
- Cursed Mirror
- Sonic Screwdriver
- Temple of Abandon
- Temple of Mystery
- Temple of Epiphany
- Gallifrey Council Chamber
- Temple of the False God
In
- Laelia, the Blade Reforged
- Caves of Chaos Adventurer
- Kami of Celebration
- Urabrask, Heretic Praetor
- Plargg and Nassari
- Etali, Primal Storm
- Jacob Hauken, Inspector Flip
- Durnan of the Yawning Portal
- Ignite the Future
- Valakut Exploration
- Chandra, Torch of Defiance
- Maelstrom Wanderer
- Ravenform
- Delayed Blast Fireball
- Tlincalli Hunter
- You Find Some Prisoners
- The Parting of the Ways
- Wild-Magic Sorcerer
- Faldorn, Dread Wolf Herald
- Nalfeshnee
- Kami of Whispered Hopes
- Incubation Druid
- Gyre Sage
- Three Visits
- Nature's Lore
- Rampant Growth
- Kodama's Reach
- Wooded Ridgeline
- Tangled Islet
- Highland Forest
- Hinterland Harbor
- Sulfur Falls
king-saproling on Lathiel the Bisexual Unicorn
9 months ago
Looks good. Personally I would make these swaps:
Second Breakfast -> Forgotten Ancient (allows you to use Lathiel's ability to essentially put counters on Lathiel himself, resulting in exponentially-increasing lifegain and counters, and also makes commander damage a more viable wincon)
Obscuring Haze -> Scrounging Bandar (same as above. also, fog effects like Obscuring Haze aren't needed since you gain so much life)
Felidar Retreat -> Light of Promise(not enough landfall support for Felidar Retreat. Light of Promise turns Lathiel into a major threat)
Tocasia's Welcome -> Hunter's Insight
Angelic Accord -> Sunbond(Sunbond is more impactful)
Elderscale Wurm -> Pathbreaker Ibex
Garruk Wildspeaker -> Gyre Sage
Rampant Growth -> Prize Pig(Pig would be crazy here!)
Farseek -> Incubation Druid
Sanguine Sacrament -> Armorcraft Judge
Ajani, Caller of the Pride -> Cultivator of Blades
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