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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Pre-release Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Return to Nature

Instant

Choose one —

  • Destroy target artifact.
  • Destroy target enchantment.
  • Exile target card from a graveyard.

to_regatha_and_beyond on Heroes of the Simic - Xtra Budget!

2 weeks ago

Wildsize is an easier cut as it doesn't really have any situations where I'd rather see that in my hand than something else. So many other spells in the deck do essentially the same thing but for cheaper.

Wild Shape is a bit trickier, as 2 of the 3 choices could be useful. However, there are better protection spells to run, and I've found that turning something into a 3/3 with trample is never as effective as it seems in theory. (Think about those spells like Pongify, the 3/3 with trample isn't much of a reparation.)

I personally have my doubts about Blighted Agent and Corrupted Conscience, but mostly with Blighted Agent. If you draw the agent and not the conscience, the agent will quite likely be counter-productive, as you'll spend cards and mana trying to buff it only for an opponent to remove it on their turn, and now you'll be potentially several cards down with no way to use the poison counters you've just given your opponent. Sure, Blighted Agent starts being really good if you cast it together with Corrupted Conscience, but on it's own it's not particularly useful, so I would cut it to avoid that possibility.

I would probably take out Return to Nature, I've found it to be a relatively weak removal spell and tend to have more luck with cards like Nature's Claim, but I understand that there are some budget concerns with that.

I'm generally not much of a fan of cards like Resculpt, 2 mana to get rid of a creature isn't that bad but your other removal options are a lot better since they also target your creatures. I would cut that for sure.

I would consider cutting Refresh. It's a good protection spell, but 3 mana is probably a bit more than the spell is really worth. Though this one could very much go either way.

The last cut is one of your basic lands. For the kind of deck you're running, you don't need 36 lands, 35 is probably a better number and maybe even as low as 34 depending on how your games tend to go. With all the card draw you have, you're way more likely to hit land drops even if you have fewer land cards. Plus, you have a good amount of ramp, and not that many expensive spells, so that's less of a concern.

So, in short, my cuts are Wildsize, Wild Shape, Blighted Agent, Return to Nature, Resculpt, 2 basic lands, and perhaps Corrupted Conscience and Refresh.

Good luck narrowing down the list further! Sorry I can't help all that much.

420MensRightsActivist on Counter Deck

2 months ago

i'm guessing you're new to modern or even mtg in general? 30 lands is far too many. 24 lands is enough to average 4 by turn 4, and if you have spells with a cost of 5+ you need mana ramp. a personal favorite sideboard card of mine is Return to Nature. good mainboard removal in jund colors would be things like Lightning Bolt, Terminate, Fatal Push, and Abrupt Decay.

cyeRunner on Mono green infect (~ 50$)

2 months ago

+1 :)

Hashep Oasis is a good manasync lategame when you don't want to draw lands any more since you can use it to buff your creatures.
Also I'd add 1x Vines of Vastwood and 2x Necropede and remove 3x Groundswell since it is harder to trigger Landfall without any Fetchlands.
For the sideboard remove Become Immense, for the same reason as Groundswell: it is hard to get the Delve cost without fetchlands. Also replace Larger Than Life with Massive Might since it costs 1 mana less and you can cast it after blockers are declard in the combat step to give the creatures trample that are actually blocked.
Add 2-3x Weather the Storm in your sideboard against Burn or other aggro decks and 4x Return to Nature both as graveyard hate and to destroy artifacts/enchantments.

For your upgrades follow the following order:
1.Ignoble Hierarch/Noble Hierarch, get the cheaper ones first
2.Inkmoth Nexus
3.Adding a second color

I've been playing BG Infect for 3 years now, here is my decklist, if you want to check it out.

I hope these suggestions will help you with your deck :)

enpc on Utopian Prosperity

2 months ago

So as a bit of a follow up from your forum post about tapped lands, I thought I would leave a comment here which will hopefuilly give you some insights into what I was talking about.

Looking at your list, your average CMC is (at the time of writing this) 3.85, which is rather high. But on top of that, if you look at hte shaper of the curve, you'll see that the deck is very light on before 3 CMC. This means that the deck doesn't really have much to do in the first few turns of the game which then means it's slower when you're trying to play bigger threats late game. Not to mention you're running a bunch of counterspells which in turn slows down your plays. Additionally, you have cards like Seedborn Muse and Murkfiend Liege which both thrive on playing as many sources that you can tap for mana as possible.

Then on top of that, you're running enough anthem effects (as well effects that put +1/+1 counters on creatures), meaning that lat game you can actually turn things like mana dorks into quite substantially threatening creatures. Combine this with the fact that you're running 38 lands, you could cut some of the more 'bait cards' from your deck as well as one or two lands (36 will be enough if you can pull your mana curve down) and add a few additional dorks. On top of that, you're using cards like Aura Shards which heavily rely on having lots of creatures to play. With only 25 creatures in your deck (which is not a high number), aura shards wil ldo less work overall than something like Return to Nature as Shards has more chance of being blown up before you even get to use it. Or you sit on it until you draw an additional creature which undermines its function.

Adding cards like Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Llanowar Elves and Noble Hierarch will help provide you with turn 1 plays which will in turn give you access to bigger creatures faster, meaning less reliance on playing stall cards while you establish a foothold. Additionally, cards like Rishkar, Peema Renegade will synergise nicely with both untap effects and +1/+1 counter effects. Cards like Thran Dynamo here are a trap - you have a lot of very hard costed cards and honestly this would do much more work as either something like Cultivate or Nature's Lore / Farseek. No, it's not as much mana but it's not colourless mana and again, it's ramp that's not competing with beaters for the same CMC.

Teferi is basically a better Vedalken Orrery as he has flash himself. Replacing Orrery with something like Eladamri's Call will add much more value to the deck, as you can get Teferi if you want flash but can get you a beater if you want something else.

Cards like Bow of Nylea will also do more work here than Elixir of Immortality. It gives you the same life triggers, but also leans into the theme of the deck much more. And unlike Elixir, bow can be used over and over. Don't get me wrong, I really like Elixir, but I find it's much more relevant in decks that want to play combo draw loops (think infinite mana Thrasios, Triton Hero).

If it's within your price range, cards like Dragonlord Dromoka are straight up going to do much more work than Treva, the Renewer. Treva's ability gains life, yes, but it constantly requires mana input and then requires you to have a boardstate, which puts it in the win-more category. Dromoka is just a really hard to stop beater and defends you on your turns. Additionally, if you're going to add non-lifelink lifegain effects, you probably want something you can activate over and over for small chunks of life rather than one big hit, as this synergises better with Archangel of Thune. Remember, lifegain for the sake of ligefain is usually not that good - you want to do something with said life so leaning into synergistic effects will help make the deck stronger overall.

Anyway, that's some thoughts on it. I can talk to the points more if you have questions however this should be a good starting point. As with all this advice as well, you have to build your deck how you want to, however there are some defininte things you can do to amke your deck a lot faster while still holding onto the same spirit of the deck.

AstroAA on Should I Keep Luminarch Ascension …

2 months ago

Luminarch Ascension is just slow. I used to run it in my Sythis, Harvest's Hand enchantress prison deck as a backup method to get beaters out, and most of the time I'd play it and it'd just sit there as I'd use my mana for other things. It's not worth it most of the time.

I do not know why you aren't already running Esper Sentinel. In your deck you're running a bunch of anthems, and Esper Sentinel can easily draw you a ridiculous amount of cards rather quickly if his tax gets up to 4~5 mana. He's easily one of the best white cards in Magic, and your deck seems likely to support him. Plus he's only one mana, and you have an absolutely ridiculous CMC of 3.87 with only seven mana rocks - two of which are 4+ CMC.

My advice? Fuck Smothering Tithe. I personally think the card is overrated and is one of the most "kill on sight" cards in Magic. A quarter of the time you play it and it's countered. Another quarter of the time you play it and it gets blown up immediately. Another quarter of the time you play it and it does nothing. The last quarter of the time it does something. If you wanted to play some cheaper "kill on sight" cards to bait out counter magic and kill spells, Food Chain, Survival of the Fittest, and even something like Grafdigger's Cage against certain decks. But, take what I say here with a grain of salt - I just don't like Smothering Tithe, and I think the CMC of it won't help you that much since you don't run a lot of ramp. I'd honestly rather run Yasharn, Implacable Earth over Smothering Tithe in your deck right now.

Now, you asked for feedback and suggestions, so here are my main suggestions. I'm not sure your budget, but considering you're asking us to decide between two $20~$30 cards, I'll assume it's higher than the average Magic player's. Here is a basic list of things you can do to improve your deck:

  • Go through your deck and individually look at every card in it. Think to yourself "How often do I play this card? Does this card make an impact whenever I play it? Is it just immediately answered? How does this fit into my game plan?" etc. Cut cards that you think aren't up to par or properly fit into your deck.
  • Your deck seems to lack a proper direction. You say you want to pillowfort and focus on building up an army. Cards like Windborn Muse and Ghostly Prison can help you prevent people from swinging at you. If you wanted to prevent people from swinging at all, Crawlspace and Dueling Grounds can work, and you can just pop them with a Nature's Claim or something before you want to start attacking. If you wanted to focus more on the army aspect, you could go with stuff like Avenger of Zendikar, Rhys the Redeemed, or Tendershoot Dryad.
  • Lower your Converted Mana Cost. You currently have a CMC of 3.87, which is rather high. In addition, you are only running seven pieces of ramp - all mana rocks - and two of them are four or more CMC, which does not help you much. Cut cards that don't do much and replace them with either cheaper mana rocks or mana dorks. A few that I immediately see that I would cut are cards like Treva, the Renewer, Skyward Eye Prophets, Empyrial Archangel, and Archon of the Triumvirate. Cards you should add are like Avacyn's Pilgrim, Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, and Noble Hierarch. This will lower your CMC and provide additional mana ramp.
  • Lands. You are currently running 38 lands, which is definitely on the high end. However, I think this is a product of having a CMC of 3.87. I think should you end up reducing your CMC to around 2.75 to 3.00 while adding in at least ~7 sources of mana acceleration you can go down to 32~33 lands, which is much more reasonable. However, I also want to talk about your land choices. You aren't running any fetches and many of your lands have a chance to enter tapped. I would look at adding in more fetches such as Prismatic Vista, Windswept Heath, Misty Rainforest, and Flooded Strand at least. In addition, I'd also look at lands such as City of Brass, Mystic Confluence, and the Battlebond lands such as Bountiful Promenade, Rejuvenating Springs, and Sea of Clouds should you reliably play with 3+ people pods. Cut cards like Seaside Citadel and the check lands, as they're kind of feelsbad turn one plays.
  • Removal. You aren't running much removal to deal with threats. Cheap removal such as Nature's Claim, Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Return to Nature, and On Thin Ice are all super good in EDH. I would definitely look at improving your removal suite outside of 3+ mana counterspells. Also, look at cheaper counterspells. Cards like Mana Drain would be super good here as it provides you mana acceleration while stopping your opponents.

There is more I would like to add, such as talking more about card advantage, but I've spent damn near close to an hour typing this so I'm gonna call it here. Now, take what I've said with a grain of salt. I'm a high-powered player; I like to optimize my decks, and with optimization comes homogenization. I.e; your decks become less unique. You've got a pretty unique deck here, and if you like it then you like it. Ultimately it's up to you on making that call of whether or not you want to optimize and change everything. If you need more help, feel free to ask. Good luck, and sorry for the wall of text.

Bulldawg1310 on Bogle of fun

3 months ago

Bilo-the-do why are you running 64 cards? youre probably running 1 or 2 too many lands and i dont quite understand why verdant rebirth is here. Giant Killer is just a way over priced path to exile with legs which doesnt fit your gameplan. Return to Nature is a sideboard card. i would do the best you can to trim to 60. Temple of Plenty adds your correct mana but it enters tapped and unfortunately you cant afford to have lands enter tapped that really dont do much later on for you or immediately upon entering.

Bilo-the-do on Wither jank

3 months ago

wallisface Grind / Dust is a card I didn't see while building this. But I'll probably work it in for Clawing Torment. So thank you for that. I have Return to Nature bc the deck doesn't have much to deal with artifacts or enchantments. The reason the sideboard looks the way it does is bc I play more casual. Not so much competitive and I'm just looking for a good time.but I'LL take a look at your deck

wallisface on Wither jank

3 months ago

Interesting build! The only cards that feel dubious here to me are Clawing Torment and Return to Nature. Return to Nature feels like a card that belongs in the sideboard (a lot of your current sideboard cards don't feel like sideboard cards), and because Clawing Torment doesn't actually apply a counter it feels out of place here (perhaps Grind / Dust works better, even if the aftermath can't be used?).

I've been trying to build a competitive -1/-1 counter deck for a few years now - my current iteration is here if you're interested. It's quite a bit different to yours - but there is a LOT of flexibility in -1/-1 counter builds, so probably to be expected.

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