Creature — Treefolk Shaman
When Woodfall Primus enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.
Persist (When this creature is put into the graveyard from the battlefield, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
Combos Browse all
- Phyrexian Altar + Woodfall Primus + Zameck Guildmage
- Blasting Station + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus
- Ashnod's Altar + Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Woodfall Primus
- Renata, Called to the Hunt + Viscera Seer + Woodfall Primus
- Carrion Feeder + Renata, Called to the Hunt + Woodfall Primus
- Blasting Station + Renata, Called to the Hunt + Woodfall Primus
- Altar of Dementia + Renata, Called to the Hunt + Woodfall Primus
- Phyrexian Altar + Renata, Called to the Hunt + Woodfall Primus
- Ashnod's Altar + Renata, Called to the Hunt + Woodfall Primus
- Juniper Order Ranger + Viscera Seer + Woodfall Primus
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Woodfall Primus Discussion
1 month ago
Cheap permenants that you can lay down with Vaevectis or other similar cards that then also give you mana: Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, and Solemn Simulacrum and Yavimaya Elder also lets you draw so you can sac him with Asmadi for a profit. For similar "when permanent enters the battlefield" effect maybe Reclamation Sage and Acidic Slime.
Chaos Warp is a staple of jund and you could use it if someone tries to get rid of Asmadi. Deathsprout and Decimate are really good jund removal cards as well. Primal Surge is a lot of mana but a good alternative win condition.
Also assuming that Asmaldi gets to stay on the field then here are some good cards that let you make sure whatever you get with him is good: Augur of Autumn, Haunted Crossroads, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician, Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire, Brutalizer Exarch, Courser of Kruphix, Vizier of the Menagerie, Crystal Ball, and Call of the Wild. On the other hand, here are some cards to make sure whatever your opponents get from Asmaldi isn't good: Painful Memories, Agonizing Memories.
Then here are some big creatures you could get for free with Asmaldi: Woodfall Primus, Borborygmos Enraged, Kodama of the East Tree, and Artisan of Kozilek. Lurking Predators is also useful for this feature as well as setting up what's on top of your deck.
Mortuary Mire is probably a good addition to the deck as well.
1 month ago
Because Grumgully, the Generous's ability is a replacement effect, it won't give counters to creatures entering at the same time. That said, your example is not two creatures entering at the same time. If two creatures with persist controlled by the same player die at the same time, both persist triggers trigger and the controller chooses the order to out them on the stack. The creatures return one at a time, sequentially. You can have Grumgully return first so that Woodfall Primus enters with both counters (which then both get removed). Your opponent could also kill Grumgully between the persist triggers resolving to try and stop this.
1 month ago
Player A attacks Player B
A: Grumgully gives Woodfall Primus a +1/+1 counter, negating the -1/-1 counter. B: Grumgully can't give Woodfall Primus a +1/+1 counter because they enter the battlefield at the same time.
-Due Dilligence Below-
What I've gathered is; rule (603.6a) states that ETB-triggers are checked for all creatures, including the newcomers.
However, Replacement effects (614) override this, and cannot target/trigger of creatures that enter simultaneously (according to this post https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/24382/what-happens-when-multiple-canker-abominations-enter-the-battlefield-simultaneou )
I am confused if Grumgully's ability would be considered a replacement effect? If it is, WHY is it considered a replacement effect?
3 months ago
I've made some changes in the deck. In came:
- Beast Within for Banewhip Punisher - it's usually non-creatures that are the real threat
- Craterhoof Behemoth for Serrated Biskelion - because games gotta end
- Woodfall Primus for Unearth - because I ran too few removal
- Natural Order for Profane Tutor - for Craterhoof or Woodfall
- Return of the Wildspeaker for Overrun - better manacost + optional card draw
Now I agree with Gidgetimer in not removing those ramp spells. But despite I went from my average CMC of 2.82 to 3.02, I don't really see a reason why to play more than 10 ramp spells, because the majority of cards in the deck is extremely cheap.
I will not add the Mike/Trike combo - I've once played in another deck and to be honest I don't like that combo too much.
I'm still thinking to add that perfectly timed Song of Freyalise and that Cauldron of Souls as that means a new snake for each dying snake, right? I want all my opponents to quote Samuel each time I play this deck :D
Thanks again guys for your help!
5 months ago
6 months ago
Whenever you exile a creature, it's controller draws a card and you gain 1 life.
I'm not entirely certain, but Livio seems to want to be built around ETB effects. Exile your own creatures, then bring them back into one massive drop; For example, Luminate Primordial would be an incredibly strong blink creature. Sure your opponents gain a ton of life, but you remove their biggest threats permanently. Additionally, as he has Partner, you can add in for something such as Woodfall Primus or Terastodon . You could even use use Meteor Golem . If you run Selesnya, you're already in extremely strong ramp territory as green loves to ramp with creatures and white loves to make creatures. Suddenly your Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun , Gaea's Cradle and Cryptolith Rite look astounding. Not to mention Circle of Dreams Druid and, if you use enchantments to protect yourself such as a Prison / Stax deck, Serra's Sanctum . There's also Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , Nyxbloom Ancient and Mana Reflection .
Hone in the strategy with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice and similar life-gaining creatures such as Suture Priest , Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Angelic Chorus and Essence Warden for a massive gap between you and your opponents.
Anyway, there ya go. A skeleton for a down and dirty Selesnya deck. Go have some fun with it.
Since you are going for extreme ramp and board presence, I'd recommend Partnering with Halana, Kessig Ranger so that when they enter you can pay and have removal-on-a-stick, too.
Kodama of the East Tree would be nice but that's a trap. You'll be outed as the archenemy at the table on Turn 0. Sure you get to cheat a bunch of things into play, but that doesn't help advance your wincon. I'd rather see Halana in the Command Zone for that removal option, so that the creatures we are playing around with can get through and finish the game off quickly. You're going creature-heavy, so use them.
7 months ago
I feel like Acidic Slime having Deathtouch is pretty annoying for this deck. Qasali Slingers does a similar job and won't kill Hans if they fight. There isn't much else that jumps out at me that solves problems and won't kill Hans. Woodfall Primus is certainly big enough that losing Hans might be acceptable, and even if it dies, you get it back to block with.
8 months ago
Thanks for your suggestions! Primal Surge is an interesting card, but I don't think that it fits this deck that well. I'm running 17 non-permanent cards, so the chances of missing a permanent with it is constantly considerable. It also costs ten mana and this deck does not generate that mana easily or early in the game.
Magus of the Order can be interesting way of tutor certain creatures in specific moments or Woodfall Primus to combo. On the other side, I think that it's very slow and vulnerable, because we will use this ability on the next turn. I guess that Natural Order , the Magus of the Order's sorcery version, should work better. I'm including this spell in the maybeboard.