Woodfall Primus

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Woodfall Primus

Creature — Treefolk Shaman

Trample

When this enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.

Persist (When this dies, if there were no -1/-1 counters on this, return this to the battlefield under this creature's owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on this.)

Wickked on Henzie "Gatling" Torre

2 months ago

coinfliplarry Olivia is not meant to be blitzed in, her haste makes it so she immediately affects the board without the use of blitz. Olivia does exile the creature that you bring back if and when she dies, and theres a good chance she will die because if she's not taken care of the creatures shes bringing back will certainly overwhelm our opponents with value and combat damage. When Olivia brings back creatures if those creatures die due to anything other then Olivia's clause they don't get exiled. For instance I'll swing with Olivia and bring back a Woodfall Primus, now you have a new body for your Ghoulcaller Gisa, Birthing Pod, Industrial Advancement, or one of my favorites Bramble Sovereign. So you can get the extra value from the creature and it will go right back to your yard if sac'd or in this case back to the battlefield due to the persist on woodfall. Then the next turn the creature is usually sitting back in your yard waiting for Olivia to attack again. If you don't have a sac outlet for additional value you can just start bring back fatties for beats and while a kill spell on Olivia will obviously stop the pain train, thats the case for all non etb cards. Her haste pretty much ensures that you should usually be able to get at least one attack trigger in. My playgroup has learned the hard way that Olivia is a kill on sight creature in the mid to late game. Bringing back creatures for free every turn that are already attacking is an effect that should not be overlooked especially in a deck whose graveyard is usually filled with beaters, I would suggest the next time you play with the deck think to yourself what if I draw Olivia, and the different possibilities it brings. Drana, the Last Bloodchief is also a legendary vampire in your deck so that would help keep Olivia's clause going if they both happen to b on the field at the same time, even if this is rare.

DawnsRayofLight on Graveyard Shift

2 months ago

It may seem janky, but many of the sagas work well in Muldrotha

Phyrexian Scriptures

The Cruelty of Gix

The Phasing of Zhalfir

2 of the above are recurring board wipes

Perpetual Timepiece for protection and more mill

Hermit Druid can help the turbo aspect of the deck, especially if you play Thassa's Oracle and related cards

Jeweled Lotus Is helpful for casting/recasting Muldrotha

Some other combos you could consider:

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Melira, Sylvok Outcast combo well with persist creatures like River Kelpie, Woodfall Primus, Glen Elendra Archmage, Putrid Goblin, and Puppeteer Clique as infinite sac targets.

Melira also works with Devoted Druid for infinite mana

Mikaeus also combos with Walking Ballista (and a sac outlet) or Triskelion

Walking Ballista is a good outlet for infinite mana as is Finale of Devastation

grizzlybair on Meren Upgraded

3 months ago

i'm using Blood Bairn and Terastodon as placeholders for Carrion Feeder and Woodfall Primus

Gidgetimer on Did Saffi Eriksdotter really die?

5 months ago

That -6 is pretty busted. Undying would stop Geralf's Messenger shenanigans in an Abzan deck, but would also enable Woodfall Primus shenanigans. Granting recursion abilities is pretty strong overall because they are pretty easy to bust wide open.

llamahero on Treasure Zoo

6 months ago

Infinite-ish Combat: Hellkite Charger + Savage Ventmaw

Infinite Combat #1: Hellkite Charger+Savage Ventmaw+Wulfgar of Icewind Dale with infinite /

Infinite Combat #2: Hellkite Charger + Grand Warlord Radha + 5 additional creatures. More than 5 additional makes infinite /

Infinite Combat Extras:

-add Azra Oddsmaker or Gallia of the Endless Dance to draw entire deck.

-add Ognis, the Dragon's Lash for infinite tapped treasures

-add Professional Face-Breaker for infinite untapped treasures and impulse draws

-add Legion Warboss for infinite hasty Goblin 1/1 R

Shock Persist Combo: Murderous Redcap + Falkenrath Aristocrat or Immersturm Predator + Grumgully, the Generous or Rhythm of the Wild, choosing +1/+1

Bramblecrush Persist Combo: Woodfall Primus + Falkenrath Aristocrat or Immersturm Predator + Grumgully, the Generous or Rhythm of the Wild, choosing +1/+1

Persist Combo Extra:

Ca1m_down on BlitzKrieg

6 months ago

Hey, cool list. I think there are a couple of different ways of building Henzie and I feel like you have a couple of different ideas going on here. Here are my thoughts on the different themes you can focus on that synergize with Henzie's abilities:

Cost reduction (making big impactful creature cost as little as possible to cast multiple in a turn every turn) Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, Cloud Key, The Immortal Sun, Marauding Raptor, Heartless Summoning, Krosan Drover, Goblin Anarchomancer, Semblance Anvil

"Blink" (lots of undying, persist, and plenty of "Feign Death" effects to maximize etb/dies triggers and keep the creatures after blitz) Cauldron of Souls, Conjurer's Closet, Kaya's Ghostform, Supernatural Stamina, Blood for Bones, Undying Malice, Minion's Return, Demonic Gifts, Abnormal Endurance, Unholy Indenture, Return to Action, Fake Your Own Death, Flayer of the Hatebound, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Puppeteer Clique, Woodfall Primus, Murderous Redcap, Faceless Butcher

Value Town (maximize card advantage, keep the cards flowing, recursion, keep non-creature count low) Guardian Project, The Great Henge, Greater Good, Lifeblood Hydra, Demonlord Belzenlok, Gorex, the Tombshell, Deadwood Treefolk, Acolyte of Affliction, Evolutionary Leap

I think doing a combination of these three things is solid, but I'd recommend focusing on one and trying to keep the game plan somewhat focused. My brew leans towards Value Town.

Things in your current list that I'm a little skeptical of:

Sundial of the Infinite I think since Henzie is only giving us a small mana discount, this would just be used as a weird "your creatures have haste". I think you often want to take advantage of the "when this dies, draw" rather than 1+ mana cost reduction.

Deathreap Ritual This doesn't trigger if your creatures are dying in your end step to blitz, creatures need to die before the end step for the Ritual trigger to go on the stack. Even if that wasn't the case, I feel like it's better in decks where you're the one making sure it's triggering on each of your opponents turns. What Henzie is doing doesn't really help with doing that. I feel like Moldervine Reclamation would be similar in concept, but more synergistic once the deck is going (but I also don't think it's worth an inclusion).

Living Death How are you filling your yard? Henzie doesn't get cards into your yard very quickly. I think the is a card that fits better in decks that are doing plenty of looting and self milling. It's very likely the other graveyard players will benefit more than you when you cast this.

Most of your creatures that are less than 4 cmc don't seem like they do enough with Henzie to take a slot. I think you'd be better off if your CMC<4 mana stuff was non-creatures that ramp and/or setup for your game plan. I can understand the sac outlet ones if you're really taking advantage of the instant speed aspect, but most of the time you're having to sac end of turn anyway, so I think it'd be better to take advantage of the better payoff of the non-creature sac outlets (like Evo Leap, Vampiric Rites, the various Altars, Greater Good, etc.) As far as mana dorks, I feel like 2 mana ramp spells will help more in the long run. I don't think Henzie is powerful enough of a turn 2 play to risk losing mana sources to pings and/or wraths.

All that being said, it's great seeing other peoples takes on Henzie. I've certainly gained a bunch from reading your comment on my decklist and thinking critically about yours. I'll try and keep my list updated as I play it more. It's been a blast so far. If I didn't already have a black based "blink" deck I think I'd probably lean Henzie towards that strat. :)

Gidgetimer on Custom commander Sewer Slime

8 months ago

To address your general speed problem, you are running 33 lands and 6 ramp with an average CMC of 3.57. This is entirely too mana light in my opinion. In my Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons deck I also run 33 lands, but have 11 ramp and an average CMC of 3.10. The ramp that I run that isn't in here is: Birds of Paradise, Devoted Druid, Llanowar Elves, Golgari Signet, Three Visits, Nature's Lore, and Wild Growth. Farseek always puts the land in tapped, so I run Three Visits and Nature's Lore over it since they grab the same duals. I'm not sure why I don't have STE in my list, though it runs well enough that I am not looking for more ramp. Since your average CMC is higher you may want to go with 13 ramp and just keep the ones you have and add all 5 of the additions.

To help with having sac fodder you are going to want creatures that recur themselves. You already have Reassembling Skeleton, but undying and persist would also let you recycle creatures for multiple activations. Puppeteer Clique, Rendclaw Trow, Woodfall Primus, Young Wolf, Strangleroot Geist, Geralf's Messenger, and Butcher Ghoul are all fine includes in a deck that wants to kill off it's own creatures in some way. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed will also grant all of your non-human creatures undying.

Burst card draw can be achieved with the black cards for life sorceries (Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Read the Bones, Ancient Craving). You can sustain card draw with Smothering Abomination, Phyrexian Arena, Skullclamp and Necropotence.

I think you could do with a few more sacrifice outlets as well, so I would add Viscera Seer and Phyrexian Altar. Viscera Seer also provides card filtering.

The following topics will help improve the deck in terms of pure strength, but may not be how you or your playgroup is wanting to play magic. Everyone's idea of fun is different, so I am going to include the suggestions in case they are something that both you and your group find acceptable.

Above some cards were mentioned that have the possibility to combo with cards already in the deck or with each other. Each card however is good in its own right and does not have to be used in the combos. If you are willing to go combo with the deck I will further explain these and also add some other cards specifically for the purpose of combos.

Yawgmoth and two undying creatures create a loop where you sacrifice the undying creatures in order to put -1/-1 counters on each other. It costs a life per iteration, but would give you the death triggers for your commander and for Gutter Grime. Adding in Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, or other similar effects gains you the life back and turns the loop into a win condition.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and any of the persist creatures allow for infinite sacrifice loops as the creature will come back with alternating +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters. Walking Ballista and Triskelion combo with Mikaeus and allow for infinite damage loops, in the case of Ballista you need a sacrifice outlet though. Things that enter with -1/-1 counters or that allow you to remove their +1/+1 counters for other reasons will also have similar interactions without the infinite damage.

With Devoted Druid you can add in Quillspike for shenanigans with infinite power Quillspike via tapping for green, untapping by putting a -1/-1 counter, adding power by paying green and removing the -1/-1 counter. This can be done with necrotic ooze as a 1-card combo if both pieces are in your graveyard. You can also get infinite death triggers by repeatedly killing Devoted Druid with Mikaeus out by activating the untap ability when she is not tapped.

Instead of card number advantage from drawing you could get card quality advantage from tutoring. In Golgari you have access to the best creature tutors and the best all around tutors available. Eldritch Evolution, Green Sun's Zenith, Worldly Tutor, and Finale of Devastation for creatures. Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Grim Tutor for all around.

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