Soul Shatter

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Each opponent sacrifices a creature or planeswalker with the highest converted mana cost among creatures and planeswalkers they control.

Discussion (39)

trippy_mcfly on Mono Black Death Plague

1 week ago

Cool deck. I'm here to offer some suggestions after you pointed me here from your other deck.

Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip is a powerful commander and generates insane advantage in 4-player games. Let's take a look at this deck and see what it is doing, and then streamline it. I see three main objectives of this deck:

1 - RAMPING.

This is pretty much a primary objective of any commander deck, since if your only source of mana is playing one land per turn, you're going to fall way behind. Your main ramping plan for this deck is to double lands, using Cabal Coffers, Cabal Stronghold, Caged Sun, Crypt Ghast, Extraplanar Lens, Gauntlet of Power, and Nirkana Revenant. This is super cool and probably a pretty strong plan. We want to try to maximize this plan. How can we do that?

All of these cards want you to load up on basic swamps, which you did. We want to make sure we are playing a basic swamp every turn. Solemn Simulacrum is definitely a worthwhile add. Liliana of the Dark Realms is very helpful and I'm happy to see her in this deck. Often times Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a worthwhile add for decks with Cabal Coffers. I think it is worth it here. Although you yourself don't have many non-swamps that will benefit from Urborg, you are likely going to be stealing people's lands with Tergrid, and counting those as swamps will be helpful for you.

How else can we keep getting swamps onto the battlefield to power up this strategy? Card draw. The more cards in your hand the higher the chance you will have a swamp to play every turn. Night's Whisper and Sign in Blood are great for this. Disciple of Bolas is solid too. Dread Presence loves swamps and is a must-add. I would add Phyrexian Arena, which is great card draw for you. Necropotence, one of the craziest cards in the game, is also a worthwhile addition. Not as good but worth consideration are Yawgmoth's Bargain and Null Profusion. Two other well-known card draw machines in black are Dark Confidant and Bolas's Citadel. You have some costly spells in your deck, so they might be a bit of a liability. If you want to include them, Sensei's Divining Top pairs very well with them.

Just because you are mainly ramping with land doubling doesn't mean there isn't room for other ramping as well. You have Black Market, which I have never personally tested, but is probably decent. Black has some explosive, single-turn ramp with Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, and Culling the Weak. These cards would do well in letting you get out expensive plays ahead of schedule, mainly Tergrid. Artifact ramp is also great in any deck. I would add Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Jeweled Lotus, and Jet Medallion. I would consider adding even more artifact ramp as well. Getting down Tergrid as early as turn 1 or 2 is just so good.

2 - SACRIFICE AND DISCARD.

Once you have Tergrid out, sacrifice and discard become powerful effects that let you take control of your opponent's permanents. This is insane advantage and if left unchecked for very long will win you the game. Syphon Mind while Tergrid is in play not only puts you up 4 cards in comparison to each opponent (since they each went down 1 and you went up 3), but also could net you 3 more cards if they discard permanents that then go onto your field. That's insane. Let's take a look at all the cards you have that enable Tergrid:

SACRIFICE:

Archfiend of Depravity - A one-sided, almost board wipe that repeats every turn? Pretty solid. Getting the creatures onto your field with Tergrid? That is nuts. The one issue is that some commander decks won't have that many more than 2 creatures on the field when this comes down, and if they do, then this card and/or Tergrid become a big target, but if you survive the turn, this and your commander will put you ahead so far.

Butcher of Malakir - Similar to Archfiend. If this guy sticks around for a bit, you're going to be at such an advantage. It costs 7 which is a bit high and very vulnerable to something like Mana Drain, so I wouldn't be super upset if you cut it, but it is great with Tergrid.

Gatekeeper of Malakir - This guy only costs three and steals a creature if Tergrid is on the field. Love it.

Phyrexian Obliterator - If someone is dumb enough to deal damage to this guy, then you're getting a lot of their permanents! I don't love this card for you. People will just leave it alone and then you just hit someone for 5 each turn or leave up a blocker, which is a bit slow.

Sheoldred, Whispering One - Similar to Archfiend. If this guy sticks around for a bit, you're going to be at such an advantage. It costs 7 which is a bit high and very vulnerable to something like Mana Drain, so I wouldn't be super upset if you cut it, but it is great with Tergrid.

Torment of Hailfire - Expensive and liable to be countered but if it resolves then you will get a ton of value!

Dictate of Erebos - I like it. Let's say you have 10 mana. Cast Tergrid, then somebody goes to kill him. Flash this card in. Now, you at least get 3 of your opponents creatures on the way out!

Grave Pact - I like this as well. You can't flash it in, but if you put this card on the field, then people will have to kill this before Tergrid comes down or else end up giving you their creatures.

The Eldest Reborn - Immediate impact with Tergrid on the field, pretty good value on its own. Definitely a keep.

DISCARD:

Liliana, Defiant Necromancer - You need to flip her first, but once flipped she is great.

Syphon Mind - Great.

Torment of Hailfire - Expensive and liable to be countered but if it resolves then you will get a ton of value!

The Eldest Reborn - Immediate impact with Tergrid on the field, pretty good value on its own. Definitely a keep.

... and that's it. We need more cards that are busted with Tergrid! The following would be great adds to your deck: Smallpox, Dark Deal, Liliana's Triumph, Plaguecrafter, Soul Shatter, Mire in Misery, Innocent Blood, Vona's Hunger, Death Cloud, Burglar Rat, Demon's Disciple, Fleshbag Marauder, Elderfang Disciple, Liliana, Waker of the Dead, Bottomless Pit, Fraying Omnipotence, Rotting Rats, Cunning Lethemancer, Merciless Executioner, and a personal favorite: Smokestack.

Notice that all of these cards are typically even trades (ex: I play Elderfang Disciple, going down 1 card, everyone else goes down 1 card.) These aren't great on their own since it costs you mana to do so, and, in the case of discard and sacrifice, the opponent gets to choose an asset that they are least upset to get rid of, making them actually below-even trades. However, they become insanely busted with Tergrid. (ex: I play Elderfang Disciple, going down 1 card in hand for a measly 1/1. But, I get a Carpet of Flowers, basic plains, and Birds of Paradise on my field? Now that's an amazing play). Therefore, the ones that are recurring are better, since they give you more chances to make sure they resolve while Tergrid is on the field. (ex: I play Cunning Lethemancer and my opponent kills Tergrid. Later in the turn I play Tergrid again, albeit for 7 mana now due to commander tax. Next turn, with the Lethemancer trigger, I get some great value!)

Here are some other cards that work well with Tergrid, although they only target one opponent: Sudden Edict, Hellish Rebuke, Pharika's Libation, Diabolic Edict, Duress, Thoughtseize, Hymn to Tourach, Chain of Smog, Despise, and Divest.

Notice that in the absence of Tergrid, these cards are negative trades. They set you and an opponent back by putting you both down one card. The other two opponents are left untouched. Seeing them early in the game is not particularly helpful since you'd rather spend the early game ramping. They are great and slowing down whoever is winning, but at the expense of your own board. There is a trade-off here, since these can be leveraged politically. "Each opponent discards a card"" can give you tons of value with Tergrid on the field but makes you 3 enemies. "Target opponent discards a card"" gives you not as much value in general but you can leverage this to make someone else the common enemy or make a deal with a player ("if you don't attack me next turn I won't target you with my Duress"). Things like Duress can also target specific cards, which is an added benefit for you and an added detriment to the opponent.

I would run some from each category, probably with an emphasis on maximizing Tergrid value.

3 - DRAIN AND GAIN.

Blood Artist and other cards gain you one life and drain your opponent one life. This is cool and certainly an interesting archetype of a deck. It doesn't synergize with Tergrid particularly well. I personally would not use this strategy at all in this deck and maximize the Tergrid plan. However, Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond is an awesome combo and an unexpected way to finish the game for you while people are busy dealing with Tergrid. If you want to keep this, I would trim some of the other cards, such as Exsanguinate and maybe Underworld Dreams.

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So, now that we know what the 3 objectives are, and have maybe cut the third, we have a bit more of a plan. I've suggested adding some card draw and mana rocks for ramp, and tons more Tergrid synergy. What are the cuts? I would say anything that doesn't fit in with the objectives, so basically any card I haven't mentioned already, unless it gives great value on its own. I'll go through some:

Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are incredible cards and provide great value. Diabolic Tutor, Scheming Symmetry, and Shrouded Lore are worse tutor effects and should probably be moved to the maybe board. Sudden Spoiling is interesting and stops somebody from comboing off on their turn so is probably worth it. Reanimate is good value and should probably stay, same with Animate Dead. Demonic Vigor protects creatures but not Tergrid, unless you want him going to your hand. This is risky but probably fine. I could see him getting countered and then removed from your graveyard which puts you back majorly, but I could also see you avoiding commander tax. Worth looking into. Undying Evil is strictly better since it has instant speed and keeps him on the field. We might also want to protect him with Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots

Coffin Queen is too expensive and vulnerable. Drana, Liberator of Malakir is cool for aggressive strategies and can help you close out the game but is out of place in this deck. Falkenrath Noble is an overcosted Blood Artist. Gonti, Lord of Luxury is a value creature that if you can get his ETB many times, which your deck can't really do. Grave Titan isn't worth it in this deck. Gravedigger is fine but might be a bit slow. Helldozer is probably not worth it unless you want to pick on somebody lol. Korlash, Heir to Blackblade is not worth it. Massacre Wurm might not be worth it. Nighthowler isn't worth it. Opposition Agent is always a good add. Phage the Untouchable is too slow and vulnerable. Sepulchral Primordial might not be worth it. Skirsdag High Priest is probably not worth it. Syr Konrad, the Grim is not worth it. Wight of Precinct Six is not worth it. Tainted Strike is not worth it. Lashwrithe is not worth it. That's about 15 cuts right there.

Props to you for building Tergrid and having an interesting ramp strategy. I think if you go more in on the Tergrid plan by cutting unrelated cards for cards that ramp or are good with Tergrid then your deck will be a lot more reliable. After all, the most fun part of this deck is going off with Tergrid!

Hope this helps.

anton6776 on Tergrid's Terrible Thievery

1 month ago

Also Sudden Edict, Vona's Hunger, and Soul Shatter are great for instant speed removal that still synergizes with Tergrid.

Blackgate on Venturing forth (Esper venture)

2 months ago

Hi droslag thanks for reposting your comment! Not sure what happened there.

I’ll give Brutal Cathar  ^Flip a shot to see how it works with the curve - I had reservations with this creature due to it’s low power and it being susceptible to Play with Fire.

I suppose Soul Shatter works if you’re dealing with creatures you can’t target? As opposed to Infernal Grasp and Fateful Absence? Sideboard could be an option for this card. Lots of great suggestions thank you!

Dungeon Crawler works surprisingly well as it’s easy to complete a dungeon with this deck so getting them back into your hand isn’t uncommon!

droslag on Venturing forth (Esper venture)

2 months ago

Weird. I'll re-comment.

I was wondering why not Brutal Cathar  ^Flip over Gelatinous Cube? Also I'd recomment Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip could swap a swamp out for 2 or something. I find Vanishing Verse really useful main or side boarded, aswell as Divine Smite sideboard for facing black decks. Before Liesa, Forgotten Archangel I used Kaya the Inexorable and I still think shes good. Im running 2 liesa, 1 kaya. I also like to use a Lolth, Spider Queen or two just because she's good. How well does Dungeon Crawler fare? I remember cutting mine for the Yuan-Ti Malison. I'd also recommend maining or siding a couple Soul Shatter.

LandoLRodriguez on MID - Grixis Control

2 months ago

Hello again! You'll probably hear from me fairly frequently, if you don't mind, since you and I are doing the same thing in the same colors, and I'll always be interested in the direction you take your deck. I put my list up here Arena Grixis Control if you'd like to take a look. I've been running it on arena since MID came out and while I miss Kroxa and Sharknado and such, it's still been pretty fun. We've certainly both zeroed in on some of the same new toys; Gisa fits in very nicely, considering how many of our opponents' creatures we'll be zapping every game. Yes, Smoldering Egg  ^Flip definitely deserves at least 2 slots! In principal, I want to be really minimal with creatures in this scheme and only really want big splashy ones, but the egg just accomplishes so much. Like you said, a 0/4 blocker early game is great to have, especially with all the aggro in the meta right now. It doesn't take too long to spend 7 mana on instants and sorceries and once the egg hatches and each one sends 2 damage anywhere (not to mention it's now a 4/4 flyer) it gets really fun. I'm running a couple copies of Tergrid  ^Flip because not only do I love how sacrifice removal like Soul Shatter and Umbral Juke (plus Totally not Liliana's -3) gets around both hexproof and indestructible (screw you, Toski), but I've had other folks drain me out with Tergrid's Lantern and thought "Hey, that's just mean enough to want to do myself". I hadn't really considered Lier; getting access to all the instants and sorceries in the graveyard is definitely great, but a lot of games have hinged on countering the right spell at the right time and I wouldn't want her taking that chance away. I still definitely recommend Xanathar, and would also encourage throwing at least 1 copy of Hall of Storm Giants in (it's proven really invaluable as both a threat when the battlefield is clear but I'm top decking for a closeout bomb, and as a nice fat blocker if the opponent has managed to keep some stuff). If there was one card I'd strongly recommend that perhaps you hadn't considered though, it's Geistflame Reservoir. Getting it out on turn 3, it doesn't take many turns before it's capable of doing a considerable amount of damage to any target for just 2 mana. Plus it can help dig through the library if necessary. I've loved it and will likely slot in a second one at some point. Anyway, that's probably enough for now. Enjoy your Grixising!

Endersword334 on Mazirek's Nut Sac

2 months ago

I would seriously consider Soul Shatter. Very strong sac removal early game and late game and has some great synergy with your commander.

wilie345 on Resolve to Dissolve

3 months ago

I was looking thing over again and you might want a board wipe or two and maybe upgrade the removal options.

Soul Shatter and Eat to Extinction are solid options. Soul Shatter hits everyone's biggest and sometimes you want to exile something more than destroying a creature. I'd swap Murder and Naturalize for these two.

For board wipes my recommendation is Extinguish All Hope and Necrotic Hex I'm not sure what I'd swap out for these though.

DanMcSharp on Treasure deck (budget)

4 months ago

Hello,

I like the suggestion of Showdown of the Skalds, but you're pretty much splashing white only for 2 copies of Extus, Oriq Overlord  ^Flip and 4 copies of a very mediocre Sea Gate Banneret. You might as well go full Rakdos (red black) since you really should swap those 4 Sea Gate Banneret for some Forsworn Paladin anyway, and then you'd only need a single treasure or pathway on white to play the front side of Extus, Oriq Overlord  ^Flip.

You could probably try to squeeze in a Price of Loyalty just because it could lead to really strong turns with all the treasure/sacrifice synergies you're already running. Speaking of which, Skullport Merchant would also be a very nice fit since you don't have much 3 drops in your curve. Maybe cutting a few 1 or 4 cmc cards here and there would make sense too. A few copies of Hoarding Ogre would be the 1st things to go if I was you. Another good 3 drop would Soul Shatter since it's really strong in this meta for cards like Goldspan Dragon, Koma, Cosmos Serpent, various planeswalkers, etc, and you barely run any removal as it is which is kind of odd in these colors.

Cheers~­