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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Victimize

Sorcery

Choose two target creature cards in your graveyard. Sacrifice a creature. If you do, return the chosen cards to the battlefield tapped.

DreadKhan on "The Ritual Sacrifice is Complete"

6 days ago

Well, I had a bit of time so I took another look!

I feel like Bond of Revival isn't enough value for 5 mana, and the effect probably doesn't scale especially well. Disentomb seems small, I would usually prefer to have a more impactful card, and a 1 drop that you can't play early is often annoying in my experience. I'm not sure why you're using Expanded Anatomy, I doubt you'd miss it. Introduction to Prophecy is really bad if you have access to Black spells, paying a few life to get more cards in hand is a good deal. Do you have big enough creatures to justify Thud in here? If you don't expect to have a huge creature (power high enough to kill a player with a decent life total) I'd cut it. Ebony Charm seems like a strange choice, the evasion isn't the best and the exile effect feels very small for Commander, where you usually want effects that deal with an entire Graveyard (if not everyones). Effects like Enthusiastic Study aren't usually very good, and Learn doesn't work so you just loot IIRC, which isn't enough added value. If you're going to run Get the Point I think you should look at stuff like Ravenous Chupacabra, Nekrataal, either kills something but each leaves a body you can sacrifice, and both cost less mana. Same with Reach of Shadows, there are wildly better cards you could use that are still cheap. If you're going to sacrifice a creature for Rescue From the Underworld I think you could just run Victimize, it's bigger and less mana.

I'm looking through here and I've noticed you have a relatively large number of single target single card discard effects, in my experience these scale very poorly in multiplayer. I think you could keep the best one or two, but you don't need so many of them I feel.

Another potential issue here is that you have a LOT of redundant sacrifice outlets, I'm not sure you really need that many when you have your Commander, I think I would look for cards that offer a payoff for sacrifices, there are lots of cards in Rakdos that care about death triggers, any of them is probably better than something like Voracious Null when your Commander offers a great sac outlet.

I'm not sure if you'll really have problems or not, but if you find you are short of mana you could probably add a few mana rocks, Rakdos Keyrune is pretty versatile, Phyrexian Totem is potentially a creature as well. There are Charcoal Diamond and Fire Diamond, there is Mind Stone, and many more that are 2 or 3 mana. I find decks that have enough lands are probably better in most situations, but having a few mana rocks can be good sometimes.

Azoth2099 on Kaalia Kicks Vast Ass

1 week ago

The best way I've found to help Kaalia of the Vast cheat all of those big ole chonkers creatures into play is by running a solid Reanimator package so that your deck doesn't rely solely on it's Commander to function. Entomb, Reanimate, Buried Alive, Victimize, Animate Dead, Necromancy, Phyrexian Reclamation & Final Parting do a lot of work.

I'd also recommend looking through the recent Dominaria Remastered & Commander Masters sets for spicy, cheap reprints like Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Sneak Attack & Gamble. Oh, don't forget to get Vilis, Broker of Blood in there at some point as well.

Here's my own Kaalia list if you wanna check it out: ANCIENT DRAGON TEMPEST (KAALIA)

Tinnuki on Horrors from Beyond

2 weeks ago

Profet93: No worries!

My "combo" comment was just my shorthand way of saying that with a decent opening hand in an ideal game, it's possible to get the perfect two creatures into the grave early on, cast Mimeo, and 1-Hit KO a player each turn, barring any pesky interaction. I know it's not technically a combo by definition, it just feels like one to me!

To answer your questions:
Springbloom Druid is not one I considered, but I see the value with Ramunap. Chump block, or another sac target for Victimize is a benefit, too. Good suggestion, I like it!
Alchemist's Refuge doesn't really have a specific function, other than being a bit of extra utility for when I need it. Yavimaya Hollow is not a card I'm familiar with, but it's perfect. Another good suggestion.
Sensei's Divining Top is a good card, and I don't really have any reason for why I don't have one. Likewise, I don't have a specific reason for why I use Guile, other than the fact that I like the passive see-3 effect. Related point, extra draw is an area that can be improved, so I'll have to take all this into consideration.

As a general side note, none of my commander decks are completely optimized, 100% efficient machines. They're just piles of cards that I've toyed with and found a good arrangement that suits me. Anytime I'm asked "Why don't you run [card]?", saying "I never felt compelled to try it" feels like a lackluster answer =P

Azoth2099 on Kaalia, help wanted

2 weeks ago

MarioDargon

Hey dude! Good Commander choice, Kaalia of the Vast has been my main option for years now.

I'll try to keep this brief lol.

The most important thing to remember when brewing this one is to not get distracted by the possibilities of all those Angels, Demons & Dragons. Focus on card quality above all else, the Spells that are going to win you the game.

Razaketh, the Foulblooded & Vilis, Broker of Blood are the top dogs here, their power as individual cards will oftentimes win you game from sheer value. Other pieces like Rune-Scarred Demon, Burning-Rune Demon & Hoarding Broodlord will do the same if you build around them with Spells like Ephemerate & Saw in Half.

I'd also recommend more Treasure tokens! I see you're already running Smothering Tithe & Goldspan Dragon, which is a great start. Adding Ancient Copper Dragon, Cavern-Hoard Dragon, Monologue Tax, Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff & of course Dockside Extortionist will make sure that your deck doesn't necessarily need it's Commander on the field to function. There are also a few lines via Dockside Extortionist & Razaketh, the Foulblooded that deal infinite damage, produce infinite Mana and yield infinite Tutors, which we can get into later if you decide to go that route.

Wrapping up on Mana, I'd also recommend more Rituals and Rocks. Dark Ritual, Burnt Offering & Seething Song are great, as are Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Conviction & Talisman of Indulgence. A Thran Dynamo could be good too. Oh man, Hellkite Tyrant can steal your opponents Rocks, which counts as Ramp I guess?

Anyway, moving on to card draw! Kaalia of the Vast runs through a lot of cards if you build her right, and keeping your hand full is a priority. Necropotence, Black Market Connections, Dark Tutelage, & Dark Confidant are great ways to turn your Life total into more gas. Esper Sentinel & Archivist of Oghma scale with your opponent's activity. None of them will do as much heavy lifting as Vilis, Broker of Blood, but that's honestly asking a lot of any card other than Ad Nauseam.

Onto the deck engine! I see you're running a few things to double down on your Commander's effect, like Aggravated Assault, Blade of Selves & Isshin, Two Heavens as One. While this strategy seems like a great idea on paper, it's actually not as efficient for the deck as it seems. Running a Reanimator strategy to ensure that the deck can continue to cheat creatures out without having to rely on it's Commander to do so is a far more powerful & consistent strategy. Spells like Entomb, Reanimate, Final Parting, Buried Alive, Victimize, Animate Dead, & Karmic Guide will pull a lot of weight in this context.

I could talk about Kaalia of the Vast all day, but I'll stop here. Let me know how you feel about these suggestions.

Also, here's my own list if you want to check it out: ANCIENT DRAGON TEMPEST (KAALIA)

Cheers!

Profet93 on Volrath Punch.

4 months ago

Cabal Stronghold - Budget cabal coffers. You need ramp in a deck with an expensive commander that will eventually get removed, not to mention ensuring he comes down quickly enough for you to be relevant and not outpaced by faster strategies. Moreover, ramp provides you with the ability to cast your more expensive creatures should Volrath inevitably be removed.

Mind Stone - Ramp when you need it, draw when you dont.

Defile > Disfigure

Hero's Downfall > Murder

Oversold Cemetery > Disentomb - Black has the best recursion in the game. While oversold cemetery is better than disentomb, you really should focus on bringing cards back to the field rather than your hand, especially given how expensive your creatures are. There are several cards that I can recommend at a later time, currently at work. Victimize,

Feed the Swarm - Enchantment removal

Phyrexian Arena/Syphon Mind/Read the Bones/Night's Whisper/Stinging Study- Draw, you desperately need draw

Diabolic Tutor - Tutors are black's greatest strength, be sure to utilize them to find what you need, when you need it.

Phyrexian Reclamation > raise dead - PR is reuseable while raise dead is not. Cost of life is minimal.

Dismember > Funeral charm - FC is cool, but its not impactful enough. Discard a card is alright, removal is horrible, swampwalk is not repeatable and often 2 for 1 loss. You need more removal in your deck, especially cheap to cast. It allows you to bluff interaction as well.

Supernatural Stamina/Undying Malice - Can be used to protect volrath for cheap.

Decree of Pain > Forced march - FM requires a lot of mana to use, 8 mana just to kill cmc 5 or less. I get the flexibility is nice, but the mana cost is too high. If you're going to spend 8 mana, you might as well be able to destroy everything and draw from it. Not to mention cycling at instant speed allows for a decentish floor as well. Worth considering.

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