Shaman of Forgotten Ways

Creature — Human Shaman

: Add two mana in any combination of colours to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.

Formidable — , : Each player's life total becomes the number of creatures he or she controls. Activate this ability only if creature you control have total power 8 or greater.

Discussion (48)

BrassLord on Social Constructs (Oviya Pashiri) *primer*

1 week ago

Cool deck idea! Glad that commander is getting some love!

Some interesting things to look at. Kogla, the Titan Ape has some interesting synergies with your commander. Oketra's Monument can help explode your board presence in the early game, and any of the token doubling enchantments seems equally good! It might not gel extremely well, but Shaman of Forgotten Ways is a mana dork that can also be a wincon. Esika's Chariot seems right up the decks alley, as it makes tokens and can copy your tokens as well! Myth Unbound also seems decent if you start running into targeted removal. Quirion Ranger also works with your tapping and untapping plan!

If it's in your budget The Great Henge goes really well with all your mana dorks! Also Eldrazi Monument seems like it would be good with your source of repeated creature making!

OmniDreamer on Forest for the Wicked (Kamahl & Kodama EDH)

3 months ago

Seer's Sundial seems less optimal than Tireless Tracker . How often do you put creatures into play with power 3 or greater? I'm not sure if Elemental Bond is strong in this particular build as is.

4 mana for even 3 3/3 beast tokens is decent. Your current list already contains Arasta of the Endless Web , and I love that it can help start the loop with Ghost Town if you have the right setup. A couple other token generating spells for surprise factor are Ezuri's Predation , Fresh Meat , and Caller of the Claw .

Dawnglade Regent not necessarily a big finisher, but monarch is another nice way to get card draw and the hexproof for your creatures is nice. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is also nice, but a bit pricey.

The Tireless Tracker clues stick around so they're just there when you have spare mana that you don't want to go to waste which is again better than the one opportunity per landfall with Seer's Sundial and the tracker can get bigger as you sacrifice the clues. I especially like that the tokens trigger Kodama and if the land you put into play can tap for 2 mana you can sac a clue to draw a card which may draw you more land to put into play from Kodama triggers.

Quirion Ranger can help provide a clutch blocker or that one extra mana you need for some spell. I like that it helps you have more land in hand for landfall triggers off of Kodama. Since Ashaya makes your creatures into forests they can tap for mana so they all become targets for Quirion Ranger to untap.

Kamahl’s Will does seem like a decent fit for this deck as a way to go wide and removal. Territorial Scythecat seems okay similar to the running a Managorger Hydra but takes a bit to build up. Shifting Ceratops it has some versatility, but I'm not sure what you want this for in a landfall deck. Primeval Bounty is currently in your list here on tappedout. Branching Evolution not sure your strategy is putting a lot of counters on stuff, more dropping lots of tokens on the fiel. Fertilid synergizes well with Retreat to Kazandu . Garruk's Uprising again I don't think you're usually putting a lot of big creatures into play to benefit from the trigger. Court of Bounty seems better than Colossal Majesty and has an added benefit. Reclamation Sage is great, and I'm also interested in the new 2-drop Masked Vandal since it exiles stuff, and another budget tutor for these low cost utility creatures is Woodland Bellower .

=== other card options ===

• Shaman of Forgotten Ways can be a nice alternate way to win.
• Ancient Greenwarden it's Crucible of Worlds on a body, doubles landfall triggers, and has reach (I like referring to reach as dunking).
• Bramble Sovereign solid value, decent size body, can be used politically.
• Shared Summons solid budget tutor.
• Scapeshift could be game ending if you're getting the right landfall triggers.
• Regal Behemoth monarch and more mana.
• Mana Reflection MOAR MANA!
• Path of Discovery could help dig more land per Kodama trigger if landfall is generating token creatures.
• Blighted Woodland could be better than or just a nice addition to Myriad Landscape
• Greater Good is usually pretty solid card advantage in green especially if someone is about to deal with your commander or big bad or board wipe.
• Fecundity is great card advantage in go wide strategies if your deck runs a hand-full of sac outlets.
• Eldrazi Monument is fun if you can generate enough tokens or animate enough lands, just imagine a bunch of flying elemental forests that are indestructible beating down your opponents.
• Parallel Lives is much pricier than I remember.
• Evolutionary Leap is always a nice kind of card advantage in token decks, but still nice to sac non-tokens if they're about to die anyways.
• Beastmaster Ascension is a nice buff in wide strategies.
• Apex Altisaur could be a useful thing to get with your Magus to wipe out some creatures.
• Force of Vigor another great option for removal.
• Genesis Wave is always a solid way to spend lots of mana.

Strangelove on Big Friends

5 months ago

Maybe add more 3 cmc ramp 2..?

Shaman of Forgotten Ways

Somberwald Sage

Llanowar Tribe

Nantuko Elder

Greenweaver Druid

Palladium Myr

Fyndhorn Elder

Weaver of Currents

Gyre Engineer

Apprentice Wizard

Profet93 on Revel Up

5 months ago

SPACEgun

Instants/Lands/Artifacts

Heroic Intervention - Protection

Beast Within - Removal

Bonders' Enclave - Draw

Dread Statuary - Manland to be used as a fuel for a mass draw spell or blocker in a pinch

Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Creature when you need it, land when you don't

The Great Henge - Draw, lifegain, ramp

Sorcerries

Three Visits > Rampant growth

Green Sun's Zenith - Tutor

Harmonize - Not needed but nice to have, Xenagos decks struggle with card draw and this helps mitigate that weakness.

Eternal Witness - Recursion

Farhaven Elf/Wood Elves - Ramp T4 Xenagos

Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal, utility with E-Wit and others

Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp + Potential wincon

Elder Gargaroth - Really good, fav 5 drop beater in Xenagos hands down

Profet93 on A bunch of crap that makes a Gruul deck

6 months ago

Cuts

There are other cuts to consider as well, but I feel these are the more noteworthy ones....

Ashaya, Soul of the Wild - No direct synergy with Xenagos, you want a beater with evasion or protection

Beast Whisperer - Better in decks that are lower to the ground that can better use it's ability

Brash Taunter - "No synergy with Xenagos"

God-Eternal Rhonas - Better in decks that go wide, this gets easily chump blocked. You rarely have more than 1 creature out at a time

Klothys, God of Destiny - "No synergy with Xenagos"

Leyline Tyrant - Better in red decks, while not recomending it, glorybringer would be better IMO as it acts as removal as well

Phylath, World Sculptor - No synergy with....

Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - Not enough ramp to hard cast, no cheating effects (which wont even give you a cast trigger)

Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre - See above

Shadowspear - Meta call? Better to have creatures with trample or more ramp and card draw in this slow

Triumph of the Hordes - Hit or miss. Playing a beater, hoping it survives, casting this next turn and hoping they dont have removal. Ignoring the feelbad of infect

Berserkers' Onslaught - Winmore

Vernal Bloom - Symmetrical ramp which you can't even take full advantage of

Nissa, Who Shakes the World - This is ok, I like the vigilance and getting essentially a 6/6. Rather have something more impactful.

Potential additions

Atarka, World Render - Beater with evasion

Balefire Dragon - Beater with evasion that also destroys decks that go wide

Carnage Tyrant - Beater with protection, evasion and anti-blue. Nice to use a mass draw spell knowing they can't remove the creature in response

Etali, Primal Storm - Not needed, but fun! Lots of value, doesn't require combat damage

Farhaven Elf - Ramp for T4 Xenagos

Fierce Empath - Tutor

Inferno Titan - Removal

Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal

Malignus - GG target player

Savage Ventmaw - Beater with evasion and helps build tempo

Scourge of the Throne - Destroy people's lifetotal

Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp and potential wincon

Siege Behemoth - Beater with evasion

Somberwald Sage - Ramp

Springbloom Druid - Ramp for T4 Xenagos

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection

Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Land when you need it, beater when you don't

Dread Statuary - Manland to be used as potential beater or for draw spell

Rishkar's Expertise - Draw + Tempo. Powerful!

Life's Legacy - Draw

Momentous Fall - Similar to above, to be used in response to removal

Berserk - Use on selvala, malignus or even an opposing creature attacking one of your opponents!

Sylvan Library - Nice but not needed

Profet93 on xenaghos semi-optimized

6 months ago

+1 the deck looks pretty good. Low to the ground, got some interaction and instant speed protection. I would try to add a few more pieces of draw to maintain gas.

Lands

Yavimaya Hollow - Protection

Cragcrown Pathway  ^Flip - Utility

Dread Statuary - Man land which can be a creature to be used for a draw spell

Blighted Woodland - Ramp

Ancient Tomb - Ramp

Instants + Artifact + Sorcerries

Beast Within - Removal

Berserk - Fun with malignus, infect creature, removal of opponents creatures, ramp with selvala, etc...

Deflecting Swat - Redirect targetted removal/draw/extra turns, counter counterspells all for free

Momentous Fall - Draw in response to removal

Return of the Wildspeaker - See above

The Great Henge - Draw, ramp, lifegain

No cultivate/kodama's?

Hull Breach - Removal

Creatures

It seems you have your preferences on creatures but here are some other ideas as well...

Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp, wincon

Siege Behemoth - Beater with evason

Somberwald Sage - Ramp

Ilharg, the Raze-Boar - Cheating

Profet93 on

7 months ago

Interesting deck +1

Questions about Inclusions

What is your meta like?

Proud Wildbonder - Seems too unimpactful for 4 mana

Essence Warden - Whats the purpose of this?

Beast Whisperer - Seems cool, I tried him in my build. Does he get a chance to stick around long enough to draw you atleast 2-3 cards?

Ravager Wurm - Is this meta against maze of ith?

Shivan Wurm - Reusing ETB effects or something I'm missing? Seems weak

Voracious Cobra - Gosh this card brings back memories from my childhood. Curious how it's been for you, seems like a card they need to burn removal on if they want a chance of attacking you unless they go wide

Windstorm - Meta?

Unleash Fury < Berserk

Fog - Meta, if so, why not get the new green fog that came out recently?

Soul's Might - Return of the Wildspeaker would better serve you as you can draw cards in response to removal rather than your creature getting removed in response to might being cast.

Suggestions

Ancient Tomb , Castle Garenbrig are ramp

Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma - Trample and ramp

Heroic Intervention - Protection

Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - Ramp and draw

The Great Henge , Somberwald Sage, Shaman of Forgotten Ways are all good ramp

Inferno Titan - Removal

Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal

Deflecting Swat - Utility! Counter counterspells, redirect targetted removal/draw/extra turns. Very powerful

Rishkar's Expertise, Bonders' Enclave, Elder Gargaroth, Greater Good, Life's Legacy, are all amazing card draw options, especially greater good. Seriously, don't sleep on greater good

I hope the suggestions werent too overwhelming, I just didn't see that much draw and I figured that adding more never hurts.

Rixnane on It's "Tree"son then? (Ashaya Mid-Budget Primer)

7 months ago

@Inkmoth Hey, thanks for the comment and upvote! I actually already have Quirion Ranger and Scryb Ranger under Recursion on the list, but I still really appreciate you telling me in case I didn't have it :)

Also, I didn't think about Shaman of Forgotten Ways. I have him sitting in my binder rn, and I've been trying to put him in a deck for such a long time now, so I'm going to try slotting him in here. Thank you so much for the recommendations!