Shaman of Forgotten Ways
Creature — Human Shaman
: Add two mana in any combination of colours to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells.
Formidable — , : Each player's life total becomes the number of creatures he or she controls. Activate this ability only if creature you control have total power 8 or greater.
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- descent of the Dragons and shaman of forgotten ways interaction
- Is Xenagos, God of Revels a Creature spell when cast if your Devotion to Red/Green is less than 7?
- Can shaman of forgotten ways mana ability be used in conjunction with mastery of the unseen manifest ability.
- Omnath and Shaman of Forgotten Ways
- Oath of Nissa
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Shaman of Forgotten Ways Discussion
1 week ago
Cool deck idea! Glad that commander is getting some love!
Some interesting things to look at. Kogla, the Titan Ape has some interesting synergies with your commander. Oketra's Monument can help explode your board presence in the early game, and any of the token doubling enchantments seems equally good! It might not gel extremely well, but Shaman of Forgotten Ways is a mana dork that can also be a wincon. Esika's Chariot seems right up the decks alley, as it makes tokens and can copy your tokens as well! Myth Unbound also seems decent if you start running into targeted removal. Quirion Ranger also works with your tapping and untapping plan!
3 months ago
4 mana for even 3 3/3 beast tokens is decent. Your current list already contains Arasta of the Endless Web , and I love that it can help start the loop with Ghost Town if you have the right setup. A couple other token generating spells for surprise factor are Ezuri's Predation , Fresh Meat , and Caller of the Claw .
Dawnglade Regent not necessarily a big finisher, but monarch is another nice way to get card draw and the hexproof for your creatures is nice. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is also nice, but a bit pricey.
The Tireless Tracker clues stick around so they're just there when you have spare mana that you don't want to go to waste which is again better than the one opportunity per landfall with Seer's Sundial and the tracker can get bigger as you sacrifice the clues. I especially like that the tokens trigger Kodama and if the land you put into play can tap for 2 mana you can sac a clue to draw a card which may draw you more land to put into play from Kodama triggers.
Quirion Ranger can help provide a clutch blocker or that one extra mana you need for some spell. I like that it helps you have more land in hand for landfall triggers off of Kodama. Since Ashaya makes your creatures into forests they can tap for mana so they all become targets for Quirion Ranger to untap.
Kamahl’s Will does seem like a decent fit for this deck as a way to go wide and removal. Territorial Scythecat seems okay similar to the running a Managorger Hydra but takes a bit to build up. Shifting Ceratops it has some versatility, but I'm not sure what you want this for in a landfall deck. Primeval Bounty is currently in your list here on tappedout. Branching Evolution not sure your strategy is putting a lot of counters on stuff, more dropping lots of tokens on the fiel. Fertilid synergizes well with Retreat to Kazandu . Garruk's Uprising again I don't think you're usually putting a lot of big creatures into play to benefit from the trigger. Court of Bounty seems better than Colossal Majesty and has an added benefit. Reclamation Sage is great, and I'm also interested in the new 2-drop Masked Vandal since it exiles stuff, and another budget tutor for these low cost utility creatures is Woodland Bellower .
=== other card options ===
- Shaman of Forgotten Ways can be a nice alternate way to win.
- Ancient Greenwarden it's Crucible of Worlds on a body, doubles landfall triggers, and has reach (I like referring to reach as dunking).
- Bramble Sovereign solid value, decent size body, can be used politically.
- Shared Summons solid budget tutor.
- Scapeshift could be game ending if you're getting the right landfall triggers.
- Regal Behemoth monarch and more mana.
- Mana Reflection MOAR MANA!
- Path of Discovery could help dig more land per Kodama trigger if landfall is generating token creatures.
- Blighted Woodland could be better than or just a nice addition to Myriad Landscape
- Greater Good is usually pretty solid card advantage in green especially if someone is about to deal with your commander or big bad or board wipe.
- Fecundity is great card advantage in go wide strategies if your deck runs a hand-full of sac outlets.
- Eldrazi Monument is fun if you can generate enough tokens or animate enough lands, just imagine a bunch of flying elemental forests that are indestructible beating down your opponents.
- Parallel Lives is much pricier than I remember.
- Evolutionary Leap is always a nice kind of card advantage in token decks, but still nice to sac non-tokens if they're about to die anyways.
- Beastmaster Ascension is a nice buff in wide strategies.
- Apex Altisaur could be a useful thing to get with your Magus to wipe out some creatures.
- Force of Vigor another great option for removal.
- Genesis Wave is always a solid way to spend lots of mana.
5 months ago
Maybe add more 3 cmc ramp 2..?
5 months ago
Three Visits > Rampant growth
Green Sun's Zenith - Tutor
Harmonize - Not needed but nice to have, Xenagos decks struggle with card draw and this helps mitigate that weakness.
Eternal Witness - Recursion
Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal, utility with E-Wit and others
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp + Potential wincon
Elder Gargaroth - Really good, fav 5 drop beater in Xenagos hands down
6 months ago
There are other cuts to consider as well, but I feel these are the more noteworthy ones....
Ashaya, Soul of the Wild - No direct synergy with Xenagos, you want a beater with evasion or protection
Beast Whisperer - Better in decks that are lower to the ground that can better use it's ability
Brash Taunter - "No synergy with Xenagos"
God-Eternal Rhonas - Better in decks that go wide, this gets easily chump blocked. You rarely have more than 1 creature out at a time
Klothys, God of Destiny - "No synergy with Xenagos"
Leyline Tyrant - Better in red decks, while not recomending it, glorybringer would be better IMO as it acts as removal as well
Phylath, World Sculptor - No synergy with....
Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - Not enough ramp to hard cast, no cheating effects (which wont even give you a cast trigger)
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre - See above
Shadowspear - Meta call? Better to have creatures with trample or more ramp and card draw in this slow
Triumph of the Hordes - Hit or miss. Playing a beater, hoping it survives, casting this next turn and hoping they dont have removal. Ignoring the feelbad of infect
Berserkers' Onslaught - Winmore
Vernal Bloom - Symmetrical ramp which you can't even take full advantage of
Nissa, Who Shakes the World - This is ok, I like the vigilance and getting essentially a 6/6. Rather have something more impactful.
Atarka, World Render - Beater with evasion
Balefire Dragon - Beater with evasion that also destroys decks that go wide
Carnage Tyrant - Beater with protection, evasion and anti-blue. Nice to use a mass draw spell knowing they can't remove the creature in response
Etali, Primal Storm - Not needed, but fun! Lots of value, doesn't require combat damage
Farhaven Elf - Ramp for T4 Xenagos
Fierce Empath - Tutor
Inferno Titan - Removal
Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal
Malignus - GG target player
Savage Ventmaw - Beater with evasion and helps build tempo
Scourge of the Throne - Destroy people's lifetotal
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp and potential wincon
Siege Behemoth - Beater with evasion
Somberwald Sage - Ramp
Springbloom Druid - Ramp for T4 Xenagos
Yavimaya Hollow - Protection
Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Land when you need it, beater when you don't
Dread Statuary - Manland to be used as potential beater or for draw spell
Rishkar's Expertise - Draw + Tempo. Powerful!
Life's Legacy - Draw
Momentous Fall - Similar to above, to be used in response to removal
Berserk - Use on selvala, malignus or even an opposing creature attacking one of your opponents!
Sylvan Library - Nice but not needed
6 months ago
+1 the deck looks pretty good. Low to the ground, got some interaction and instant speed protection. I would try to add a few more pieces of draw to maintain gas.
Beast Within - Removal
Berserk - Fun with malignus, infect creature, removal of opponents creatures, ramp with selvala, etc...
Deflecting Swat - Redirect targetted removal/draw/extra turns, counter counterspells all for free
Momentous Fall - Draw in response to removal
Return of the Wildspeaker - See above
The Great Henge - Draw, ramp, lifegain
Hull Breach - Removal
7 months ago
Interesting deck +1
What is your meta like?
Proud Wildbonder - Seems too unimpactful for 4 mana
Essence Warden - Whats the purpose of this?
Beast Whisperer - Seems cool, I tried him in my build. Does he get a chance to stick around long enough to draw you atleast 2-3 cards?
Ravager Wurm - Is this meta against maze of ith?
Shivan Wurm - Reusing ETB effects or something I'm missing? Seems weak
Voracious Cobra - Gosh this card brings back memories from my childhood. Curious how it's been for you, seems like a card they need to burn removal on if they want a chance of attacking you unless they go wide
Windstorm - Meta?
Fog - Meta, if so, why not get the new green fog that came out recently?
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma - Trample and ramp
Heroic Intervention - Protection
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds - Ramp and draw
Inferno Titan - Removal
Kogla, the Titan Ape - Removal
Deflecting Swat - Utility! Counter counterspells, redirect targetted removal/draw/extra turns. Very powerful
I hope the suggestions werent too overwhelming, I just didn't see that much draw and I figured that adding more never hurts.
7 months ago
@Inkmoth Hey, thanks for the comment and upvote! I actually already have Quirion Ranger and Scryb Ranger under Recursion on the list, but I still really appreciate you telling me in case I didn't have it :)
Also, I didn't think about Shaman of Forgotten Ways. I have him sitting in my binder rn, and I've been trying to put him in a deck for such a long time now, so I'm going to try slotting him in here. Thank you so much for the recommendations!