Tribal Enchantment — Treefolk Aura
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a Treefolk with base power and toughness 0/4.
|Want (2)||BeowulfBjornson , MarkTaylorTSax|
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|Duel Decks Anthology (DD3)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Garruk vs. Liliana (DDD)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Lignify occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
2 days ago
I'll cede the Nevermore point to you, the commander does indeed slip through it and yes I also know the card isn't played. The larger overall point though is that at any table you only have control over 100 of the 400 cards that see play and being vulnerable to a single card that shuts down your entire strategy is a liability. Especially when you play paper, people don't have 100% powered lists and often substitute hoser or situational cards. Regardless, the deck is still 100% dependent on the commander sticking on the table, and its practically your only source of card advantage. Any deck that handles the commander easily is going to shit all over your pile of 99. Replace Nevermore with Lignify or Kenrith's Transformation or Darksteel Mutation or Song of the Dryads or Imprisoned in the Moon and you have the exact same problem, your deck is shut off when your commander is handled. Rather than engage the actual logic of what I'm saying, you and your buddies are getting caught up on specific cards instead of overall types of interaction.
This deck crumples if it can't get commander triggers. That is the point I've been making. Stop misconstruing it.
You'll notice how when I talked about alternate costs, I even said you don't cast it for the regular CMC normally. I did say that in some situations, especially in grindier games, you may find yourself in a position where you end up casting the actual CMC of cards like Force of Negation as you don't wish to -1 card advantage your hand and you're packing the mana. Once again, why do you ask me if I'm reading your primer when you aren't reading my replies?
Yeah its neat that misdirection handles spells, I never said it didn't. I said it doesn't handle the 3 most important spells resolving in the format right now. I am well aware how it interacts with uncounterable cards. Once again, are you reading what I'm writing? Losing a permanent to Abrupt Decay sucks but losing the game to Tainted Pact is 100% worse. This is extremely easy comparative logic for anyone who is trying to win games.
I never spoke badly about Dark Ritual except to note its a consumable piece of mana, and doesn't help you in creating turn loops. I have no problem with its inclusion.
You must be seriously new if you don't understand that when I say Pyroclasm and variants, I'm talking about cards besides simply Pyroclasm. Every time I've mentioned it I've talked about pyroclasm effects, I'm talking about Anger of the Gods Earthquake Toxic Deluge Rolling Earthquake Fiery Confluence Sweltering Suns Fire Covenant Sudden Demise and Subterranean Tremors. There are also all kinds of "Destroy all creatures" effects that I didn't list. Yes, I am highly aware that 2 damage from pyroclasm doesn't kill Yuriko, but it sets back your board state, and all the other pyroclasm VARIANTS do kill Yuriko. This strategy is also seen in decks like Ruric Thar or Keranos. Its more usually seen in tier 2 decks that are able to engage the meta due to how creature heavy the current meta is. Being proud for playing cedh but only playing against 6 different decks doesn't really give you a huge representation of the viable decks in the format. It means you're still new. Yes its good to be aware of the tier 1 decks and the commonly played decks, but if you're running into more fringe decks that are able to leverage these kinds of cards against you, your deck is going to lose in more places than it should. Especially since many tier 1 partner decks are able to utilize these creature blow out cards with things specifically like Sudden Demise.
This leads into Xantcha being a competitive deck. It is 100% a competitive deck, there are decks besides Flash Hulk you need to be aware of. Especially in the current creature heavy meta, continuously blowing out the board turns your Pyroclasm effects into 3-for-1 or 4-for-1 trades to keep ahead of Blue and Green decks. It isn't a tier 1 deck, but if you play cedh you'll run into this deck or another deck that trades specifically on big creature hate. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/xantcha-combo-control/
Similarly, you'll run into a planeswalker commander like Animatou that is able to run big creature hate effects like Humility that once again, completely blow this deck apart.
I am not friends with SolelySelesnya and I don't know him personally or online. I just find these lists haven't explored new territory with Yuriko.
You guys can spend all day saying I'm rude until you're blue in the face, but I made a simple comment on both lists asking why they didn't run a specific card. Rather than respond, or tag me, or answer me, they deleted the comment and wrote a note about it that I received no notification for, and had to dig to find. Me posting on their lists is not passive aggressive, not being able to even respond to a comment and deleting it is passive aggressive. Also why complain about my tone when you use the same post to engage in the exact behavior you're so mad about? If you had just taken 3 minutes to respond giving your very basic reasoning for card justification instead of deleting comments, we could have had this conversation without you getting upset.
Now to respond to Rad Dummy specifically
If you don't think pyroclasm is cedh playable you need to reevaluate. Look at the proliferation of green due to the 7 mana different turn 1 mana dorks available to the color. Players keep 2 land hands because it includes a Llanowar Elves. Look at the amount of hatebear strategies that are significantly chipped away at from Pyroclasm and variants. Look at value enablers like Edric, Spymaster of Trest or even just Dark Confidant that are blown out by Pyroclasm. For real, the card definitely sees play. Board wipes ARE relevant for Yuriko because without a creature on the board you must cast then pass, not getting the immediate card advantage trigger. You also lose further card advantage from not being able to land other ninjas on players too for additional triggers. Your inability to see this makes me think little of your critical faculties.
Diving Top is indeed a grindier card, but you're missing the point I've been making the entire time. Your ONLY pile cracker outside of your commander is Brainstorm or Thought Scour. When your commander isn't available, your DD is a dead card in hand. Rather than respond to this point, you keep sidetracking about how its too much mana investment or only good for grindier games. Not every game is going to curve perfectly into a turn 4 or 5 win. Running DD and only running a pilecracker via your commander is short sighted. Rather than respond to that point, you keep sidetracking. Have you considered that maybe Doomsday isn't the exact same strategy as the rest of the Yuriko deck? Maybe by choosing to slot DD, you have to include build around cards to help find it and resolve it smoothly?
Its neat that you're getting real upset and want to patronize me about math. I only talked explicitly about mana costs, and didn't misspeak. The ability to start the time warp with 5 mana and take the extra turn into the land drop for the 6 mana for the loop is neat and should be included in the primer for the combo, but the combo has far bigger problems. You also never responded to my point about assuredly getting to 6 mana reliably with 29 lands and 4 pieces of ramp, only 3 of which can execute the loop. You're assuming a lot of Yuriko triggers that are not guaranteed. Once again, the back up combo still relies heavily on getting Yuriko triggers. It isn't helping you in match ups where Yuriko struggles.
- Breezecaller is a creature and can be removed by LITERALLY any color at any point to disrupt the combo
- Mystic requires 3 other islands in play, meaning you absolutely 100% cannot start the combo before turn 4 at the earliest
- Mystic requiring 3 other islands means you are vulnerable to Strip Mine or Wasteland or MLD while setting up
- Mystic returning from GY means literally any piece of targeted grave hate stops this combo. Any deck can run Tormod's Crypt, while many opt for more efficient pieces of GY removal or GY hate
- Time Warp requires a cast every time and can be disrupted. It can also be Misdirection'd lol
- Extra turn hate is present in some decks especially in the form of Stranglehold.
The combo is basically hoping everyone is tapped out or has 0 instants in their hands. While it may be slot efficient with other things that you wish to run, it is by no means efficient or fast overall.
I know you're trying to carve out a name for yourself, but you are clearly inexperienced. Playing against 6 decks that are copies of Shaper lists doesn't encompass the entirety of the competitive scene. Both this deck and your own list are extremely vulnerable to a handful of cards and a couple overarching strategies. Rather than engage critically and employ your big boy thinking pants, you would rather split hairs over "Xantcha could NEVER be competitive viable" or "Go watch casual YT video". My point stands. Rather than engage with honest critique, your ego is much too fragile to imagine that maybe the list you made has problems and isn't perfect. @ me if you wish to continue further discussing these points, otherwise lets save both of us any future headaches and leave this be.
6 days ago
Inkmoth I sincerely apologize if this is considered a dumb question, I'm still fairly new to Magic. My question is... Wouldn't both Shroud and Hexproof be immune to Lignify since enchantment auras have to target when they come into play?
3 weeks ago
Okay, so I am quite fond of brews that are delectation to pilot, but I am beholden to recommend some changes.
Now, Panharmonicon is a fantastic card, but there are only eleven ways to trigger the thing in this deck. Two of those are Draining Whelk and Grave Sifter, so, whilst they may have their moments, they seem lacking for doubling _ETB_s. This is my same opinion for Conjurer's Closet; what value is blinking something? Flameshadow Conjuring is in the same boat. These all become useless far too quickly, save for maybe Risen Reef shenanigans. Bramble Sovereign somewhat falls under the same folly, but I don't believe it to be as narrow.
Another thing to consider is the mana costs of cards. The majority of your curve is at three, which is probably when you would want to cast your commander. Ramp at two mana is far more ideal, as athwart to Keyrunes and Cluestones. I'd cut Temur Banner, Harrow, Gruul Keyrune for Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Impulse, and Rampant Growth. Wayfarer's Bauble is also of note. Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, and Elvish Mystic each can draw cards off of some of your effects late-game whilst being incredibly effective early.
Pillar of Origins is a fine card, but it only produces mana for elemental, being twenty cards in your deck and the commander. This leaves seven lands with activated abilities and forty-two nonland, non-elemental cards that cannot be used with the Pillar. I would just use Talisman of Creativity.
Seeing as that you have ramp in the command zone, doubling down on card draw seems important. Guardian Project, Beast Whisperer, Garruk, Caller of Beasts, Primordial Sage, and Vanquisher's Banner can draw off of each creature. Kindred Discovery is an especially potent one. Shamanic Revelation and Collective Unconscious each can refill the hand well, but Tishana, Voice of Thunder may just be the best form of this effect.
Specific to your deck, Vivien, Champion of the Wilds just seems lovely.
Seeing the decklist, it seems to have a sparse amount of interaction. Reality Shift, Incubation / Incongruity, Imprisoned in the Moon, Song of the Dryads, Lignify, Pongify, and Rapid Hybridization are some to consider. Kenrith's Transformation even replaces itself.
I run Decimate in every deck I can. It is absolutely amazing and has literally never been lacking.
That shall be all from me!
Good luck and happy casting.
1 month ago
I think counter magic is perfectly fine as a concept. It's a way to deal with issues, before they actually become an issue and it examplifies one of blue's main weaknesses: Difficulty in dealing with the board. I used to hate counterspells when I got into Magic again (during Lorwyn, damn Faeries), as they simply seem like a disability to play the game; "I want to play something." - "You may not". I have since accepted their place in the game and their importance.
The reason I still do dislike counter magic is because it exists to provide a strength to cover a weakness. A weakness that since then has been partially filled out by strong answers to the board over the course of Magic's history. One of the main offenders is Cyclonic Rift , especially present in Commander and other multiplayer formats that are significantly slower than Duel Magic (1 on 1). Other offenders are cards that really should be enchantments, but opted for a more nefarious although simpler route: Curse of the Swine and Reality Shift , and their predecessors; Pongify and Rapid Hybridization .
As said by Berry in the article; Blue has the ability to change something from one thing to another. We have also seen various types of such polymorphing done in enchantment form; Darksteel Mutation , Lignify , Frogify . All of this makes perfect sense in what blue is capable of doing.
However doing a change irreversibly like the Curse of the Swine or Reality Shift, is giving hard answers to a color whose weakness is hard answers - at least on the board. Yeah, you replace them with a creature, but a much weaker creature and if a token, one you can permanently remove by having it change zone.
Another issue with counter magic is the tempo shift. The opponent casts a 5 mana spell, you cast a 2-3 mana counter spell. Suddenly there's a disparity of 2-3 mana in the counterspeller's favor. It is mainly equalized because the blue player must have ready mana, resulting in that player not developing their own board state. However that can again be offset by utilizing instant speed spells or abilities that either advance board state or card draw for the blue player.
If the blue player didn't have these chances to apply disparity in mana spent and benefit, the color would struggle to have meaningful strengths, I know that. However the issue is in finding the fine line between how much mana disparity is acceptable. The cat is out of the bag on this one, as there have already been printed numerous versions of unconditional counterspells that have set a precedent for what blue counterspells are allowed to do and how cheaply.
If you compare a counterspell to a destroy spell, the main difference is obviously zone of application and also timing of application. One proactive, one reactive (well actually both are reactive, but you probably know why I have to make a distinction). Reactive spells provide a lot more flexibility in when you're required to use them. Their main problem is that sometimes reactive spells are too late to cause the same mana disparity that a counterspell does. As soon as that permanent hits the battlefield, an ability may come into effect, be it triggered, static or active. A reactive spell cannot avoid that.
Also take into account that blue can deal with any spell in existence, with the possible exception of spells with Split Second, specifically designed to be uninteractive - and still they can be interacted with . If there's a spell that is uncounterable, you can get creative with Venser, Shaper Savant , Time Stop , Mindbreak Trap , Ashiok's Erasure , there's load of ways to get around "uncounterable". Blue is also the color that will straight up see a threat on the board and simply take it for themselves, with Control Magic , Gather Specimens , Blatant Thievery , Expropriate . Effectively a removal, card draw and threat all in one.
No other color can boast the same catch all mechanic. White comes close for something in the same ballpark, but it is still just a bleak imitation - as countermagic goes. And evidently look at that price tag.
In the earlier days of Magic, blue was not the only user of countermagic. I feel like you could provide other colors with more conditional types of countermagic, to better even it out. And not just anti countermagic like Guttural Response . Blue would still be the best, but not the sole user. - White is a color that protects itself, so something like Hindering Light is the most likely avenue to take White Countermagic, anything that touches my stuff - go away. Think Equinox in terms of templating but not necessarily that specific. Giving their spells on the stack protection from a color or supertype or plain "old" Hexproof. - Green already has an affinity to provide hexproof to their stuff, Heroic Intervention and Veil of Summer , so expanding on that seems reasonable. - Red could go the Fork / Shunt route but is unlikely to get countermagic that straight up nullifies other types of spells than spells with targets. - Black is kinda difficult. The usual is just to tack an alternative payment of life, cards or permanents on an otherwise Blue card. Black already have an indirect proactive answer through selective discard, like Duress . The issue is these are all sorcery speed, so if an opponent suddenly starts drawing a lot of cards, it can be difficult for black to be proactive in time. So perhaps just providing Duress at instant speed through a condition would be acceptable. Something like "Instant Duress may be cast as an instant if an opponent has drawn two or more cards this turn." / "Instant Duress may be cast as an instant if the target opponent has 5 or more cards in hand". Any kind of variation on that.
Of course some would talk about color pie bleeding/breaking, but ain't that already happening by giving blue hard removal (by proxy) and large scale soft board removal? I know some of these issues are mainly aimed at multiplayer formats, but we cannot ignore that Magic has grown to be something else than only Duel Magic (1 on 1). Blue's counter magic is here to stay, but is it too much to ask that the other colors can get even slightly in on the action if not directly, then indirectly by interacting more with the stack?
Green has one of the best palettes available to them for a slightly slower format; mana ramp, card draw, large threats, ability to scale well, protective measures, explosive finishers and a hell lot of combo potential and pieces.
I think Green is only beaten slightly by Black in terms of Commander due to tutors in a singleton format. And because Black can cheat mana costs or pays differently, has access to card draw and good finishers, along many more combo pieces.
Blue is one of the only colors that reliably can stop combo or finishers dead in their tracks. Reversibly, they are the color best suited to keep those combos or finishers uninterrupted. They have the best access to card advantage and resource manipulation. And extra turns.
There's a reason that many cEDH decks are mainly some variation of Sultai colors (Green, black and blue) with maybe one added color or full WUBRG. I think this picture would be more diverse, if more colors became able to interact better. The ability to interact is one of the core foundations and strengths of Magic. Counter magic is a pillar of this interaction, more colors should find a way to do it or something similar.
1 month ago
Hey Kain. There's a lot to unpack here haha.
Hall of Gemstone is strong not only because it allows you to generate green mana with colorless lands, but also because it disrupts multicolored opponents (each turn, they choose one color and will pretty much only be able to use spells and abilities of that color).
Questing Beast just seems like a french vanilla beater to me. He's alright in a planeswalker-filled meta I suppose. But even there I think you could just beat your way into planeswalkers' faces with Omnath and the gang.
Angel's Trumpet is just an odd effect for mono green so I thought you might like it. In conjunction with Silent Arbiter , it does heavy damage each turn to any opponent with a lot of creatures, while also tapping down their potential blockers. Angel's trumpet also gives all your dudes vigilance. So even without the arbiter, since your green creatures will usually be bigger than opponents' dudes, you likely won't mind swinging with your team every turn while your opponents will be at risk putting their tiny dorks into combat.
Uba Mask essentially reads "when anyone draws a card, they must play it the turn they drew it or it is lost forever". Since you produce a ton of mana, you will always be able to play the cards you draw. Opponents will struggle with this though, making sub-optimal plays so that they don't lose the card they drew. Uba Mask is brutal with Teferi's Puzzle Box or Hall of Gemstone , or against opponents who draw a lot of cards or play a lot of counterspells. Even without support the mask is a highly disruptive card.
Abundance is decent for several reasons. It replaces draws, which means you would be unaffected by Uba Mask and would not lose if your library is empty. It also allows you to always draw gas if you're top-decking, or get land if you need it to cast a big spell.
It That Betrays only triggers from sacrifice. Killing something with deathtouch damage will not trigger It That Betrays. He's alright on his own since he has annihilator, but he's also easy to remove. I think better things can be done with 12 mana. Same with the other eldrazi. Sure they're strong, but they aren't that interesting imo (except for Emrakul, the Promised End . that card is super interesting).
Lignify can only target creatures while Song of the Dryads can target any permanent. Also, you can get rid of creatures by applying combat pressure (forcing blocks), so lignify is only marginally useful.
Unless you have an immediate draw effect, Reclaim and Noxious Revival won't return your card until next turn. They also telegraph your plans to your opponents, so if you put something strong on top with Reclaim, your opponents might band together to eliminate you before you draw it. Regrowth would be better imo.
Green is generally weak to board wipes. It would be especially bad if your stored a ton of mana with Omnath and somebody wiped the board, causing you to lose all that mana. Colfenor's Urn and Cauldron of Souls protect your creatures from board wipes.
Mimic Vat is a way for green to steal creatures. Or, you can use it to reuse sweet ETB creatures like Eternal Witness , God-Eternal Rhonas , Meteor Golem , Ulvenwald Hydra , etc. It can also deter board wipes, since opps might not want to destroy creatures if it means you get to imprint the best one.
Not of This World = free protection for Omnath. When you are storing a lot of mana via Omnath, it is all lost if he gets removed, so this helps to prevent that. It can also be used in a pinch to protect vital artifacts/enchantments like The Great Henge or Mana Reflection which wear huge bullseyes.
Sensei's Divining Top is never a bad card, but in most decks it is just filler. Since you're in green you could use this card slot to just draw a lot of cards instead with something like Hunter's Prowess .
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (and stax effects in general) is just unfun to play against. Just my personal opinion. I wouldn't feel accomplished if I won a game simply because I dropped a Vorinclex.
Bow of Nylea isn't bad, but there are plenty more impactful cards out there.
Anyway these are just my opinions. EDH is all about playing however you like, so don't feel like you have to make adds or cuts just because they were recommended. Play that Kitten-Hydra if you love the card!
Yes Gingerbread Cabin is lackluster. Inventors' Fair could be a good replacement. Nissa, Worldwaker looks very good here! Extra 4 mana each turn? Sign me up. Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus is cool but very situational (you would need both cards in hand, plus a way to sacrifice artifacts). But infinite turns in mono green is extremely rare, which fits your deck's theme of "green doing non-green things", so if you want to reach for that dream go for it! Trading Post might be a good sacrifice outlet for said combo. Sword of the Animist is a common ramp piece for non-green decks. Since you have green, there are better ramp options. Umbral Mantle is very good with Karametra's Acolyte or Selvala, Heart of the Wilds , so yeah I could see it warranting a spot. Worst case it can be used to give Omnath pseudo-vigilance. I agree with your assessment of the Nyleas, there are better cards to sink mana into.
1 month ago
(CAUTION: TL;DR Crap AHEAD; Reason: This is a set of opinions of cards of note for this deck.)
@king-saproling: After all this, I'd like a possible Review on this deck, as well as this:
Commander / EDH*
30 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
This is a 1 Damage KO Deck. Utilizing Card Advantage, a Myriad of threats to slow those down, Heck, I actually put the High CMC stuff in as Atemsis Bantha Fodder. just to win a game; so they're not useless at all as this is how Atemsis, All-Seeing Works as a CMDR; high amounnts of unique CMC Costs for use.
But what about these?
Hall of Gemstone
: (I guess Omnath Reserve works here?)
(Ramp or Kill... I'd rather ramp; not enough powerful creatures to be a "Dragon"...)
(Is this why you said "No." to a
(But why use this, W/O
(I, uh,,, How good is this? I never understood how these effects are "Good".)
(It's a Random Pick, but at least you get to choose which pick needed. II keep.)
7: Teferi's Puzzle Box ( Mindmoil ? IN MY ?! Permanent Keep.) 8: Meteor Golem If only what this guy can do IRL is safe; as it's not. Awesome effect; almost like a Bramblecrush on legs; Artifice also. Keep.). 9. Cauldron of Souls (This looks good for my Cromat "No Counters Allowed" Deck. But why the recommendation?
10: Colfenor's Urn (Uh... I'd have an opinion as long as I know Exile Stoarge Plus'.) 11: Lifeline (I'd like to make a list of stuff hates, & recursion is one. Since we're in theme, this Pases.) 12: Mimic Vat (This is secret tech for Superfriends; but what to use w/ here) 13: Mirrorworks 14: Not of This World (This wasn't chopped. This was Planet-Cleaved. How many creatures here have 7 Power?) 15: Pariah's Shield (I guess it's for Omnath? I'd like to change this up after this as well as work on my Atemsis Deck for this.)
As well as the Losers of this deck...
(There is a combo involving this,
, something w/ Deathtouch, &
It That Betrays
to wipe a whole field clean while going to Value Town. Why the cut?)
(I re-entered this in as it's Mana-Pricey, but we've Omnath Anyway; so putting this online is proof of
's HUGE Ramp.)
(I guess we've already enough flying stuff; & this was just a clunker.)
(Why cut this, & not
Song of the Dryads
also? Is this for turning a creature into a mere blocker?)
(Is this Aura really that bad? Alright,
Tuvasa the Sunlit
has it now.)
(Reclaim is at least, affordable (Quasi-Recursion via Topdecking;
is basically the same, but on
level power. Why does everyone think Phyrexian Mana Cards are so good? I'll never know...)
Scour from Existence
(Do I Other Ways of Destruction? I guess I'll allow the cut.)
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
(Are Eldrazi that Bad here? It's either This, or Kozilek, & It that Betrays. Should I trust my gut on this?)
: Replaced by
indefinitely unless it gets banned.
Key to the City
: (I guess The Quasi-Rummage requiring more mana for one to have a creature unblackable, then untap to Draw. I didn't think I'd be better off w/o Discarding...)
(Blowing up Mana Rocks; someone said (Kinda...), But you were right about this as a cut; I thought it as sketchy.)
Sensei's Divining Top
((?_?) I mean, even
is understandable, but saying Chopp'd to a Big Staple of all Commander/EDH? I'm at a loss...)
(Should I put
((Looks at Card.) Why say no? It makes food, & ramps. Just imagine the (Weiß)Versatility this can do.
It That Betrays
(Why say no to this? is it that average? Remember that Value Town Combo...).
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
(Does this attract that much hate? Is that why the Eldrazi are veto'd here?
Wall of Tanglecord
(Actually, good piont; would rather bust defenses, not use them.)
(Are you confident to suggest cutting
It's one of the best cards in this case, sadly...)
20: Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (Doubling Land Mana; & more so, while Halfing everyone else? Is the problem w/ big fatties I didn't know of even?) 21: Bow of Nylea (+1/+1 Counter on a Creature? 2 Damage to a flyer? 3 Life? & Retrieve 4 Cards from the Yard to the Bottom of your library in any order? Attackers have Deathtouch? Damn; I'd actually put this in now if I've a way to Untap Freely for this...)
& the underdogs?
(Is this worth keeping? Seems lackluster...)
(Searching for all Forests? Why not Landfall like mad? Opinions?)
3: Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus
Extra Turns w/o
. Good, or not?)
4: Sword of the Animist Is this good for ramp? I'm wondering...) 5: Umbral Mantle (Yeah, this could've been good, if the Shaman Staff 1 Damage Deathtouch Steal via IT THAT BETRAYS is far better even w/o the last piece!) 6: Yeva, Nature's Herald : (Is another Restricted to just Creatures worth it?) 7: Nylea, God of the Hunt : Already got a way to Trample like MAD, & I've other ways to increase both Power & toughness for my creatures anyway. Nylea, Keen-Eyed ? Worse here, but better in Animar, Soul of Elements all-creature builds. Oh, & the latter demands Topdecking, otherwise, you might just wasted a good card.
Sorry for the immense sized comments; I just want to point out my opinions; & I'm sorry if So, that said, I'll revise my Atemsis, All-Seeing Deck later; It's night where I'm at...
1 month ago
Build a Selesnya deck and run things such as Darksteel Mutation , Lignify and Song of the Dryads . If you want to make it Bant instead and have counterspells, you now have access to Imprisoned in the Moon . There is also Humility , Overwhelming Splendor , Kasmina's Transmutation and Kenrith's Transformation .
Basically you're going about the deck in the wrong way. Stop trying to "kill" him and start trying to "out pace" him.
You can also prevent him from even gaining life; Leyline of Punishment , Erebos, God of the Dead , Stigma Lasher , Forsaken Wastes , Everlasting Torment , Witch Hunt , Havoc Festival , Rampaging Ferocidon , and Archfiend of Despair .
You're going to want solid enchantment removal. For those, you have; Tranquil Path , Back to Nature , Paraselene , Bane of Progress , Primeval Light , Tranquility , Rampage of the Clans , Fracturing Gust , Austere Command , Tempest of Light and Merciless Eviction .
I'd highly recommend you go Bant and just ignore the Rakdos options I have given you, but those are there in the event you want some extra possibilities.
So you have two things here; Prisons & Mass Removal. They are working against each other, so you want something that protects your own boardstate; Teferi's Protection , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Darksteel Forge + Mycosynth Lattice , Starfield of Nyx + Eldrazi Monument , Soul of New Phyrexia , Heroic Intervention , etc.
I'd recommend you run all of them, actually. Put Tuvasa as your Commander so you always have access to card draw. He basically turns your first enchantment each turn into a cantrip (Trading 1 card for 1 card).
2 months ago
Well, I mostly like where this has gone. A few thoughts:
Gidgetimer , that's nice, but card draw is a necessity for Commander. It's not a "weakness," it's a disqualifier. Red isn't supposed to get enchantment removal, but it has Chaos Warp . Green isn't supposed to be able to directly deal with creatures, but Lignify and Kenrith's Transformation are better than 99% of white or black creature removal. Know what the best Wrath is? Cyclonic Rift . Yeah, it's not that great in 1-on-1 play, but it's a staple in Commander for a reason. That's why I designed a card that is strictly worse than a blue starter deck card from 1999 in two-player games, but still better than anything white currently has access to in EDH. Every other color has had it s weaknesses someone covered for EDH, even red, in recent years.
seshiro_of_the_orochi and dbpunk , That's not card draw. I think Temporary Truce might be underplayed, but in a casual commander game, tempo means exactly nothing, so getting one more threat while possibly putting an answer to it in one of your opponents' hands while giving the other two free cards is card disadvantage. Likewise, you actually want your lands, so overglorified scrying isn't card advantage. The reason why I made the design I did is because regardless of how your opponents choose, you're still going up cards against the table, which is what actually matters.
griffstick , I like your ideas about an enchantment with a delayed sac and hand-equalizing effects. I think those ideas are the closest to what I had in mind, in that the marginal value of those cards is highest for you as the mono-white player, so even if it's not the 5-cards to your opponents' 1, magical Christmasland scenario I was thinking, that still gets at the heart of where I think white should get card advantage. I pretty heavily disagree with the other stuff, though. That list of cards above is from over a decade of Magic, and I see those cards as proof of the failure to make mono-white viable in EDH. They all point towards white weenie and Voltron strategies, which just don't have what it takes to compete at even a 7/10 power-level table.
Ultimately, the problem, to me (and Maro, as he's talked about on his Drive to Work podcast), is that white card advantage strategies scale horribly in EDH. It's not just a matter of making Mentor of the Meek or Puresteel Paladin better, it's that those cards completely miss the mark.