Hardened Scales

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Hardened Scales


If one or more +1/+1 counters would be placed on a creature you control, that many plus one +1/+1 counters are placed on it instead.

Rhadamanthus on Zameck Guildmage and counter doublers

4 days ago

You can use double square brackets around a card's name to create a reference link: Zameck Guildmage, Hardened Scales, Kami of Whispered Hopes. It's the best way to help make sure everyone understands what's going on in the question.

Hardened Scales will just add one more +1/+1 counter in your specific question. The effects from Zameck Guildmage will cause the creature to enter with two additional +1/+1 counters and Hardened Scales will see a creature about to enter the battlefield with one or more counters, so will add another one.

All of the effects here are replacement effects (you can usually tell by the use of one or more of the words "as", "with" or "instead"). Replacement effects replace the usual results of an event with a modified event. If multiple replacement effects could modify how an event affects a player or object, then the affected player or controller of the affected object chooses which one to apply first. The modified event might then become eligible for other replacement effects and/or no longer eligible for others. You keep going until there are no more unused replacement effects that can be applied and then the event happens.

In your example this means at first only the replacement effects created by Zameck Guildmage could apply to the creature entering the battlefield. After you apply one of them, now the other Guildmage effect and the Hardened Scales effect could apply to the modified event. Whichever one of those you apply first, the other can still be applied to the further modified event. After you apply that one there's nothing left to deal with and the creature ends up entering the battlefield with 3 +1/+1 counters. If there were a doubling effect involved here like Doubling Season then the order in which you apply the effects would matter and you'd get the most counters by applying the doubling effect last.

capwner on The Harvesttide Festival [Human Primer]

2 months ago

Selesnya legendary toolbox was my first EDH deck, with Captain Sisay! Love the theme and flavor on this, recent changes look really solid too! Maybe Sisay herself could fit, being a human that tutors for a lot of key cards :) First thing I noticed was your amount of protection effects (which I think is a good idea in this creature strat), maybe adding something like Ghostway or Eerie Interlude which protects you through things like Toxic Deluge or Farewell could be good even though it clears your counters. Teferi's Protection is of course the peak of these cards, but I know that one's kinda spendy. Hardened Scales would probably fit well too and is $2. Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Krosan Verge, and Gaddock Teeg are some of my favorite Selesnya cards in general. Overall cool deck, I like the flavorful legends!

Master_J on Laser Beams

3 months ago

OUT: Restoration Angel, Brawn, Ion Storm, Mindless Automaton, Flamerush Rider

IN: Taurean Mauler, Renata, Called to the Hunt, Hardened Scales, Keen Sense, Doomskar Warrior

Cutting out some more chaff for some more consistent counter production and some other utility.

Between these and the changes I made yesterday, I should test this out in a group before I change too much more.

plakjekaas on Naban+panharmonicon?

5 months ago

They both say: an additional time. So your Cloudkin Seer entering the battlefield will trigger once for what's written on the card, another time because Panharmonicon adds one, and another time because Naban, Dean of Iteration also adds one, for a total of three times.

Panharmonicon doesn't double. It adds one. It's not like Doubling Season, more like Hardened Scales for triggers instead of +1/+1 counters.

Balaam__ on Apotheosis

5 months ago

Thanks DMFF. I mention Hardened Scales and the budget ceiling somewhere in the description, so that one’s out, and unfortunately so is The Ozolith (for the same reason). But Ozolith, the Shattered Spire is one I haven’t seen before and is in the allotted price range, so I went ahead and added it to the maybeboard until an eventual revision. Thanks for the suggestions!

DMFF on Apotheosis

5 months ago

Really neat idea. I like the way the deck moves counters around. Have you tried out Hardened Scales, The Ozolith and Ozolith, the Shattered Spire? I feel all 3 of these would help your game plan considerably.

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