Plumb the Forbidden

Instant

As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may sacrifice one or more creatures. When you do, copy this spell for each creature sacrificed this way.

You draw a card and you lose 1 life.

Discussion (45)

bushido_man96 on Kathril, Nightmare of Indatha [PRIMER]

1 week ago

I would add Plumb the Forbidden first. Instant speed, and it costs 2 less to cast. I play both, but if could only add one, it'd be Plumb.

bushido_man96 on Kathril, Nightmare of Indatha [PRIMER]

1 week ago

I've got a Kathril deck myself. I play him by being selective about the creatures that go to the graveyard (with a few mill effects as well), and I like to use sac outlets to get creatures I've cast into the graveyard. There are some good budget options out there that are quite useful, like Fanatical Devotion and Martyr's Cause to name a few. Spells that reap rewards for sacrifice, like Plumb the Forbidden, Village Rites, and Reprocess are very useful for killing off keyword creatures and refilling the hand. I also run Survival of the Fittest, which is great if money isn't an option, along with Evolutionary Leap.

A newer creature that is worth looking into is Oriq Loremage. Does exactly what you want this deck to do.

Good luck moving forward with this deck. I enjoy playing with Kathril.

bushido_man96 on Tribal Vampires Help Wanted

1 week ago

I would consider some different card draw options. Simple ones like Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, and Ambition's Cost are effective. I really like a card like Plumb the Forbidden, especially in response to a board wipe. Arguel's Blood Fast  ^Flip is an underplayed card in my opinion. It's not as good as Greed, but it might be better than Phyrexian Arena.

If I were looking for cuts, I'd be curious about the performance you've gotten out of Skeletal Scrying, Soul Foundry, and Well of Lost Dreams. The well seems like it's really good in any lifegain deck, but to get a big bang out of it, you've got to always keep a lot of mana open, and be gaining life. Perhaps you've made it work well for you, though. Let me know your thoughts on these.

RivenEsq on Grimgrin, Chaos Marine

3 weeks ago

Karn Liberated -> Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia

Mind Slash -> The Meathook Massacre

Smokestack -> Dreadhorde Invasion

Trading Post -> Bastion of Remembrance

Oblivion Stone -> Feed the Swarm

Solemn Simulacrum -> Plumb the Forbidden

zapyourtumor on The Infestation

1 month ago

I would probably make the deck more focused on a specific theme/synergy. I think currently the most synergy is tokens and -1/-1 counters, so I'd cut Winding Constrictor.

Sedgemoor Witch makes a bunch of tokens and has a nice interaction with Plumb the Forbidden... but you only have 8 instants and 2 sorceries. To make Sedgemoor good you need at least 20 total. I'd just cut it.

Strixhaven Stadium is kind of useless. At that point you should be able to win through combat damage anyways.

Going along with a -1/-1 counter + tokens theme, there's definitely one card I believe you should definitely add: Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons. Even though its legendary I think she deserves the full playset. For only 2 mana, it places -1/-1 counters and creates a ton of deathtouch snakes which clog up whatever non fliers the opponent has.

Obelisk Spider is another good one, similar to Hapatra: it makes -1/-1 counters and also drains the opponent.

It's too bad you can't play Black Sun's Zenith because the card is kind of bonkers in this sort of deck.

For removal, Eaten Alive is strictly better than Splinters. Honestly I don't recommend running either though. I'd just straight up run Fatal Push.

Land count looks a little high, I think 22 seems like a better number since your curve is pretty low. Cards like Heroic Intervention are generally not worth running just to save your creatures from wipes.

Jackfrost23 on The Black Sacrament

2 months ago

Cards you should consider: Bone Shards, Bontu the Glorified, Bloodthrone Vampire, Plumb the Forbidden, Inquisition of Kozilek, Priest of Forgotten Gods, Severed Strands, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Fatal Push, Malakir Rebirth  ^Flip, Callous Bloodmage, Sedgemoor Witch, Hunt for Specimens/Cram Session with Necrotic Fumes/Pest Summoning, Pestilent Cauldron  ^Flip, Shamble Back, Valentin, Dean of the Vein  ^Flip, Westvale Abbey  ^Flip, Vampire of the Dire Moon

RambIe on Advice For Olivia CMDR

2 months ago

I forget to suggest including multiple "sacrifice creature" outlets !!
The static ability of "When you don't control a legendary Vampire, exile this creature." could lead to situations that knock you right out of a game. Use cards like Ashnod's Altar & Plumb the Forbidden so that you can sacrifice your creatures into the graveyard in response to the exile ability going onto the stack.

P.S. Shifting Shadow & Breath of Fury have so much potential with Olivia, Crimson Bride that i would auto include them both.

GrimlockVIII on Carrion, My Wayward Swarm (Grist Insects + Song)

2 months ago

I'd replace Dredge with Deadly Dispute or Village Rites. If you have a reliable way to gain life, then Plumb the Forbidden can potentially draw you a bunch of stuff.