Creature — Elk
, Sacrifice Dawntreader Elk: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.
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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Dawntreader Elk Discussion
3 months ago
If you want a more unusual option than Spore Frog, you could try Dawnstrider , which doesn't need to be recurred each turn. Not sure why nobody uses it, other than it's old and uses an unpopular mechanic. I run both in my Meren deck, but I need discard outlets more than most Meren decks.
In my experience, creature based ramp plays really well in Meren, especially anything like Diligent Farmhand or Dawntreader Elk or even Yavimaya Granger . They aren't as good as Sakura Tribe Elder, but they can do a lot of work. The built in sac seems to be key, because it's hard to get a sac outlet consistently to start recurring your Wood Elves type creatures.
Callous Bloodmage is a really nice new card for a deck like this, very versatile.
3 months ago
I'd give you 2 likes if I could, great deck. Feel free to look at my Meren deck, it runs a few different things like mana dorks that self-sacrifice, like Dawntreader Elk and Diligent Farmhand that can ramp you without a sac outlet on board. I think most of my stuff is lower budget versions, but there is the odd card that might be helpful.
4 months ago
Thanks for your suggestions, I truly find them very interesting!
About Yavimaya Granger , maybe I discarded him due to it's 3CMC and can't control when they die. But it's true that essentialy is similar to Dawntreader Elk or Diligent Farmhand . I think still prefer the Elk or the Farmhand for being more mana cheap to put onto the field (and so be recurred by Meren) and be able to control when they are sacrified. Many times Meren or another thing to take advantage of death triggers isn't in the field when I played an echo card.
Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is very nice (and cool), specially in aggro decks, just I find that Fierce Empath works better in my personal build. Fierce empath allow me to access to my finisher creatures and at ETB for only 3 mana (Specially Protean Hulk , wich grants me insta win with combo, or just a removal card like Bane of Progress or Massacre wurm). Varragoth can grant me any card... but at a total of 5 cmc (3 play +2 boast), waiting 1 turn to attack (as in this deck I don't have many ways of giving haste) and waiting more to get that card from the top of the library... It's objectively more slower in this situation. In fact, I use Sidisi, Undead Vizier as a creature "direct tutor" (I saw you play her too, so I'm sure you have used her with success!). I know that argument would lead about including some kind of powerful tutor like demonic, etc... but they are a bit taboo in my playgroup (mostly due to economic reasons haha). Although Diabolic Intent could be accepted...
Don't get me wrong, Varragoth sure is awesome any deck, it's just more an aggro piece than a sacrifice/graveyard recursion one.
6 months ago
Hi Jagd_Tallgeese, nice Meren deck, and very different to the basic decklist many people usually have, keep it going!!!
I also play Meren of Clan Nel Toth since it came out in 2015, (but just the normal Meren sacrifice engine toolbox version)
Important things I see you could improve to make the deck more efficient while keeping your original infect version. For example, Commander's Sphere may look OK in any other deck, but what if you change it for something like Dawntreader Elk or Wood Elves ? you will ramp too, but also can use those creatures as sacrifice fodder, recover them from the graveyard... same with Go for the Throat , instead you could use a creature like Ravenous Chupacabra , and abuse of it dying and returning multiple times... and so with as much as non creature cards in the deck. Some like the altars are awesome, you should keep them. Also, remember that you are running cards like Living Dead, you should abuse of as many creatures as posible, to reanimate tons of them!
Maybe my deck can help you, I keep in mind you want an Infect build, so just take ideas in the non infect part of the deck (ramp/removal/card draw, etc): MEREN: THE NATURE'S CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH
Now, thinking on infect, you could add the new Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider : He doesn't infect per se, but will do two important things: Double Meren Experience counters, and double enemy infect counters. And is flavor win since he is a phyrexian.
More suggestions for the deck base (mana/removal/advantage) just to name them:
Spore Frog (Just broken with Meren. Some players even prefer not use it for considering it unfair)
Apprentice Necromancer (Surprise infect with haste! And another sacrifice engine)
Fauna Shaman (Fill your graveyard to reanimate later, while you search a ramp creature, a removal creature or in your case, your best infect creatures!)
Victimize (In other deck, nice. In Meren, broken. Also, think in the synergy with something like your skullwinder or your Eternal witness)
Phyrexian Tower Is powerful, will give you mana and sacrifice engine, but most important: Is phyrexian flavor for infect.
10 months ago
You're playing green, so you should probably include some more creature based ramp like Sakura-Tribe Elder, Dawntreader Elk, and Diligent Farmhand. That way, you can recur them with Karador, They'll count towards his ability, and it'll also reduce the average cmc of your deck (3.8 is really high). (One-off cards that sacrifice themself are also good, like Caustic Caterpillar.
replace Hokori with something else. you need mana to recur stuff and it just doesn't synergize with the rest of the deck.
you need WAY more ramp, and 44 lands seems a bit too slow. Maybe take out some taplands and replace them with mana rocks. given the high cost of your deck maybe remove like 3 taplands
You should overall replace a few of your 6-7 mana cost bombs with lower cmc cards, since it'll result in fewer turns where you can't play anything in the deck.
11 months ago
Hey man! so far I really dig your list and it's already looking pretty good. Some suggestions I`d make are:
Adding more low CMC creatures who can sac themselves especially activated for no mana cost are good with Meren to get experience counters faster without needing a sac outlet. Especially Dawntreader Elk and Diligent Farmhand are more optimal than Yavimaya Elder or Viridian Emissary. Other options are Blood Pet or Apprentice Necromancer.
I see you're running the Mike + Trike combo, so I'd add some protection like Sylvan Safekeeper, Heroic Intervention or Veil of Summer to prevent interuption. If you're going for a more controlly attempt I'd further more add some instant speed interaction like Krosan Grip, Beast Within or Assassin's Trophy.
All in all I'd try to lower the average cmc a bit, by cutting some of the high cost cards like Butcher of Malakir to speed up overall game play.
Good luck and stay safe!
1 year ago
It's looking really good! I would play this deck, for sure.
I'm glad you swapped out some of those artifacts and upped the creature count. I think it'll play more consistently now. It'll suck in the late game if you draw a mana rock, when a creature can get you a draw with Chulane or a token with Oketra.
There are some colorless cards you could use to replace those last two signets. Solemn Simulacrum or Burnished Hart would be great here to up the creature count even further. Ideally I think you should have it over 40. There's also Wayfarer's Bauble to help you grab more Plains, but I think the creatures are better in this deck. Dawntreader Elk is also good.