Turntimber Symbiosis

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Turntimber, Serpentine Wood  Flip

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Pre-release Legal
Standard Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Turntimber Symbiosis

Sorcery

Look at the top seven cards of your library. You may put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield. If that card has mana value 3 or less, it enters with three additional +1/+1 counters on it. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

nbarry223 on Viga-BOOM! (Turn 2)

4 months ago

So I did some math on Judge Unworthy in here, to see if it is worthy (if it wasn't only during the combat phase, I would probably include it simply for the scry 3 with conditional upside).

~39.1% chance to do 5+ damage within the scry 3
~63.9% chance to do 3+ damage within the scry 3

Then, ignoring what's in the scry and revealing whatever was after yields us:

~15% chance to do 5+ damage ~28.3% chance to do 3+ damage ~50% to do no damage

so that is not generally suggested. I think it could be considered for a slot, but it would basically be up against Pollen Lullaby or Dismember, which I think are both better respectively, due to either the flexible casting cost, or ability to stop swarms instead of just one creature.

I did swap out Nurturing Peatland for another Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip to help with Pollen Lullaby since I barely needed the card draw aspect and mainly used it for a green mana source. Most of the time, when I did use it for card draw, I was looking for a threat, which Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip has tacked onto the back when bounced with any bounceland, so that was a good upgrade.

nbarry223 on Viga-BOOM! (Turn 2)

4 months ago

With Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip being a thing to artificially inflate CMC, Judge Unworthy may finally be worth it. I’ll have to revisit clash cards etc as well, because Pollen Lullaby was great even before I had 7 CMC lands.

Finally finished updating the deck’s description with all my recent swaps. I think the deck is a lot more consistent now as well (finding I mulligan less). I may do a few more land swaps, since there’s a few I find myself not needing.

orenrahat on Lathril (94%) let’s get 95!

4 months ago

If you are going with elf token theme, Presence of Gond might synergize well. You may also want to look at combos that utilize Devoted Druid (if you attache gond to devoted, there are a few ways to get infi elf token using ETB effects, like Ivy Lane Denizen or Coat of Arms.

Many elf decks can benefit from Skyshroud Poacher

Here are a few more cards that can synergize with an elf token /black deck. Eyeblight Massacre, Gilt-Leaf Palace, Harald Unites the Elves, Prowess of the Fair, Serpent's Soul-Jar, Tyvar Kell

I would get rid of Canopy Tactician it doesn't give that much mana at 3 CMC.

Seedborn Muse is not doing much in your deck, since you don't have a lot of tapping. Bloom Tender can help with color fixing.

Nature's Lore is better than Rampant Growth.

Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip is slower Gaea's Cradle and also let you scry 4 and get a creature.

You may want to look at modal lands Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip, Agadeem's Awakening  Flip to name 2.

You might be able to eak 1% bu adding the other fetch lands, at the very least add Prismatic Vista

nbarry223 on Glittering Company

5 months ago

Came across Agadeem's Awakening  Flip which would almost work as a clunky recursion combo assembler if flooded, so I definitely think that is worth considering. Field of Ruin like I mentioned earlier, is solid land hate that replaces itself with a colored manasource. Kazandu Mammoth  Flip / Blackbloom Rogue  Flip / Tangled Florahedron  Flip would be a 'land' that could be found with Collected Company, just be careful of how many tapped lands are included if you decide to include any of those.

Mistveil Plains could help with the mill matchup, and it works to give you a Chord of Calling target if needed, plus it is findable with fetches. Oran-Rief, the Vastwood lets you get a lot out of Kitchen Finks, so it may be worth an inclusion. It would also help if you transition to an aggro strategy during the match.

I've personally always liked Reflecting Pool as a singleton psuedo-mana fixer and one or two of the filter lands (Wooded Bastion / Fetid Heath / Twilight Mire) in 3+ colored decks to alleviate the burden of all the life loss cards (shocks + fetches).

Castle Garenbrig would work as some slow ramp, probably not worth it, but figured I would mention it. Turntimber Grove / Llanowar Reborn would help to get more out of Devoted Druid and the like, although it probably isn't worth coming in tapped (the Grove would sort of be a combat trick when found with Elvish Reclaimer as well). Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip / Emeria's Call  Flip would be some other clunky options, that I just don't think are worth it.

KanisxKoda on Reaper

5 months ago

Hey SirHerpaderp,

thanks for the compliment, luckily I had a great deal I found from the pre-covid spike and got the Survival of the Fittest at a steal. and I've been working on this since the commander was released so when I first purchased these goods when at their cheapest.

So technically I have 36 lands in this deck. 4 of them are mdfc lands:

These are amazing extra spells on their face side and can be cheated into play off certain abilities this specifically say "play a land" (ex.The Gitrog Monster&Oracle of Mul Daya) and not put a land. (ex.Explore&Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath

Another great upside to them is that you can use bounce lands such as Golgari Rot Farm&Guildless Commons to pick these lands back up.

The Final the key to this deck's Mana is Life from the Loam which is a repeatable mill target that fills your hands with lands to dump into Nostalgic Dreams.

Only down side to the mdfc is you cannot play them off loam. However, that's why Timeless Witness and Nostalgic Dreams are in the deck.

My advice for new pickups out of the new Kamigawa set so far are the black channel land and that sick new dragon. Not much else has spoiled yet so idk what else lol

mattzim666 on Maelstrom Wanderer Chaos Reigns Supreme!

6 months ago

I think you should cut: Brutalizer Exarch, Conduit of Ruin, Frost Titan, Giant Adephage, Myr Battlesphere, Oblivion Sower, Pelakka Wurm, Phyrexian Ingester, Rashmi, Eternities Crafter, Rattleclaw Mystic, Sagu Mauler, Simic Sky Swallower, Sphinx Ambassador, Stalking Vengeance, Tornado Elemental, Plasm Capture, Pandemonium, Sunken Hope, Tezzeret the Seeker, Chromatic Lantern, Darksteel Ingot, Disaster Radius, Explosive Vegetation, Heat Shimmer, Rude Awakening, and Spelltwine. As for lands, I do think you should replace: Izzet Boilerworks, Spawning Bed, and Temple of the False God.

I think you should add: Temur Sabertooth, Genesis Ultimatum, Etali, Primal Storm, Skyshroud Claim, Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Chaos Warp, Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient, Terror of the Peaks, Kodama of the East Tree, Reclamation Sage, Kogla, the Titan Ape, Consecrated Sphinx, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Wood Elves, Ilharg, the Raze-Boar, Diluvian Primordial, Prime Speaker Zegana, Release to the Wind, Return of the Wildspeaker, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Garruk's Uprising, Guardian Project, Unnatural Growth, and Arcane Signet.

I do think one option that you have is replacing all signets with mana dorks like Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, and Elvish Mystic

If you are able to find more slots, I think you should consider: Hullbreaker Horror, Thryx, the Sudden Storm (dependent on count of spells with 5 cmc or more), Soothsaying, Mulldrifter, Beast Whisperer (dependent on final count of creatures), Rishkar's Expertise, Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip, See the Unwritten, Balefire Dragon, Scourge of the Throne, Bane of Progress (I feel like you do not have a ton of high value artifacts or enchantments that would cause this to cripple you), Momir Vig, Simic Visionary, and Genesis Storm.

shwanerz88 on Yidris, Maelstrom Thief

6 months ago

Yldris always seemed like such a fun commander to me, probably because Maelstrom Wanderer was one of my first commanders. Biggest thing I see write of the back is your man base. Your deck is really blue with barely any black. might I suggest cutting back on a swamp or 2. Along with the mana base I highly suggest adding some MDFC's as most of the are fantastic. I would avoid Agadeem and Shatterskull because X spells (you might wanna cut Villainous Wealthbecause of that too), but Turntimber Symbiosis  Flip, and Sea Gate Restoration  Flip are both big spells to play after connecting with Yldris. Bala Ged Recovery  Flip, Glasspool Mimic  Flip, and even Song-Mad Treachery  Flip kinda goes with your theft theme. With the MDFC's I've been able to cut my decks down to 34-35 lands with barely any noticeable performance issues. I have even gone down to 32-33 in lower curve decks. Also I would cut decimate. It is too often a dead card when there isn't one of everything on the field and worse off might have to target your own things in dire situations just to remove key piece from someone else's board. I hope My advice helped you out! Have fun and may the Gods of Chaos be ever in your favor.

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