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Kami of Whispered Hopes
Creature — Spirit
If one or more +1/+1 counters would be put on a permanent you control, that many plus one +1/+1 counters are put on that permanent instead.
: Add X mana of any one colour, where X is Kami of Whispered Hopes' power.
SaberTech on
Animar & friends!
1 month ago
Well, with the new additions it looks like you are aiming to improve the deck's speed and consistency. With that in mind, potential cuts that I could suggest are:
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Palinchron: I used to run this but cut it after Ancestral Statue was printed. Even with a full discount from Animar, Palinchron still needs a lot of lands on the board to net you infinite mana without help. The deck should be able to win before you get that many lands out in a lot of instances. Peregrine Drake is much more mana efficient and can combo with other creatures for infinite mana. You also already have a number of different ways to rack up infinite counters on Animar so Palinchron is more of a liability since it can clog your opening hands.
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Outcaster Trailblazer: This is what I would swap out for the Dour Port-Mage. Your deck doesn't really run many creatures with a power of 4 or higher to trigger this. If you take out Palinchron then the Trailblazer is mostly there for working with Ancestral Statue. The Port-Mage works with Statue just as well, is cheaper to cast, and can be triggered with a wider variety of creatures and effects in the deck on top of being able to trigger its own draw effect with its other ability.
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Aluren: You already have a bunch of more efficient combo lines in the deck. You can't tutor for Aluren and Animar can't discount it. It also opens up potential plays for your opponents that they can use against you. You have so many more efficient combo lines that I'm pretty confident that you can cut this and not miss it, even if it might enable combo lines with the Port-Mage and cards like Shrieking Drake.
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Prime Speaker Vannifar: I know that I run Birthing Pod so this might be a bit of a hypocritical suggestion, but the big difference in my mind in that Birthing Pod doesn't have summoning sickness. I think that having to spend the mana to cast Vannifar and then wait until your next turn to use her ability is a bit too slow for what Animar aims to do.
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Kami of Whispered Hopes: This is basically just in the deck for Animar since you don't have ways of throwing around +1/+1 counters. Effects like this aren't even really necessary for Animar because you only need two counters on it to enable most of your combo line setups. 3 mana for a mana dork that makes you wait to produce mana with it is also too slow in my opinions.
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Hardened Scales: This is cheaper than Kami of Whispered Hopes but I think the same reasoning applies. Animar just doesn't need the effect that badly. I think that it would be better off as a 1 CMC mana dork that helps you either cast Animar on turn 2 or triggers Animar to get a counter later in the game. Having this card slot be a creature also means that you have one more card in the deck that can trigger cards like Beast Whisperer.
DemonDragonJ on Advice for a Green/White EDH …
3 months ago
Poly_raptor, given that this deck shall have a strong focus on creatures, I would like for it to have at least one card that searches my library for one or more creatures.
Also, what about Kami of Whispered Hopes, Circle of Dreams Druid, or Sylvan Library? Each of those cards works with one of the planned themes of this deck, so I am certainly considering them, for it.
TheDeckMaker2300 on
An Abundance of Ways to Win
5 months ago
Your welcome hey even got some honorable mentions
Cayth, Famed Mechanist - another trifecta for catergories artifact creatures and +1/+1 counters
Kami of Whispered Hopes or/and Accomplished Alchemist — they are mana dorks for the counters and lifegain catergory kami has way more advantage since it has a hardening scales effect
And without explanation ten other honorable mentions 1. Fathom Mage 2. Pollywog Prodigy 3. Jan Jansen, Chaos Crafter 4. Chasm Skulker 5. Mycoloth 6. The Goose Mother (brief: second hydroid Krasiss) 7. Shadrix Silverquill 8. Winding Constrictor 9. Archangel of Thune
Gonna cheat on thr last one with three but they all do the same thing for Hellkite/production
cPute on
One Eye on the Donkey - Bristly Bill
8 months ago
Nice deck with very cool name! :-)
BTW Have you considered Kami of Whispered Hopes? I put this card to every +1/+1 deck.
griffstick on
Upgrades Unleashed Precon with upgrades
10 months ago
• Rishkar, Peema Renegade • Loyal Guardian • Rhythm of the Wild • Swiftfoot Boots • Rishkar's Expertise • Fertilid • Kami of Whispered Hopes • Orochi Merge-Keeper • Kodama of the West Tree • Evolution Witness • Fanatic of Rhonas • Incubation Druid • Managorger Hydra • Bristly Bill • Lizard Blades • Goblin Anarchomancer • Halana and Alena • Renata, Called to the Hunt • Silkguard • Arwen, Weaver of Hope • Railway Brawler
DemonDragonJ on Should I Keep Fungal Shambler …
11 months ago
FormOverFunction, this deck does not have a great emphasis on +1/+1 counters, so Gyre Sage would not be a good match for it, and, even if that were the case, I believe that Kami of Whispered Hopes is superior to Gyre Sage in the majority of situations. Similarly, this deck does not have many, if any, zombies, so Undead Alchemist is also not a good match, for this deck.
As for Phenax, God of Deception, he is a great recommendation, so I think that I would like to wait to receive several more responses, before I make a decision, on this matter.
rckclimber777 on Build a Deck with me …
1 year ago
Welcome back to another episode of Build a Deck with Me. In the first two episodes I focused on a couple decks that want to go infinite and combo out. I realize that playing infinite combos is not everyone’s idea of a good time, but one of the things I enjoy is finding cool interactions/ways to break cards. So today instead of finding ways to break cards, I’m simply going to start with a card that is already broken and build a deck around it. That card is Voja, Jaws of the Conclave. Ok, so maybe it isn’t broken, but you have to admit, you see this good boy on the field and you need to find a response quickly.
Research
In the last episode, I had some comments that suggested I talk about some of the general research that goes into deck-building. One thing to keep in mind is that when you’re building a deck there are general archetypes that exist and are fairly well known. These can often serve as models when thinking about what cards to use, although relying too heavily on them long term can diminish creativity. If you’re just starting out though, by all means run over to EDHRec and find what cards usually go into a counters deck or a tribal deck (spoiler alert that is what we’re building here). One of the things that I do that helps my deckbuilding is watching youtube channels that play commander. This includes: The Command Zone, Tolarian Community College, Commander at Home, and Elder Dragon Hijinks. There are many others out there, but these are the ones that I’ve watched more than a couple episodes of. As I’m watching an episode, I find myself thinking, “Wow I want to build something like that” or “I really liked the interactions with that”. For instance, there was a Commander at Home game where I got to see the interaction between Dihada, Binder of Wills and Odric, Lunarch Marshal and now they’re sitting on my desk, waiting to be built. Today’s episode is the result of one such instance. I watched The Command Zone episode that covered Murders at Karlov Manor. In that game, the Voja deck was a beast. It was fast, it made huge creatures, it drew tons of cards, and it just couldn’t be stopped, oh and the commander was a big puppy dog (wolf, puppy same thing).
To start building, I went into Gatherer and just began looking for a few things like Wolves, Elves, and Changelings. I started to realize that there are very few changelings and the wolves out there really aren’t that great outside of a few like Hollowhenge Overlord. So I turned back to the Command Zone for some help. They post their decklists on the videos and I began scrolling through it and much to my surprise, the list was similar to the ones that I had found, but wasn’t sure about like Ferocious Pup and Universal Automaton. These aren’t good cards unless you have something that really wants creatures on the field. And that’s when things started to click. The support for Voja didn’t necessarily need to be super strong in their own right, it just needed to enable him to do more.
Changelings
First of all, Voja is an interesting card because it wants both Elves and Wolves on the field. Most tribal decks want just one tribe so it almost feels like you have to make a choice between one or the other here. Well I don’t like choosing between two good options. It’s like deciding between chicken nuggets or a chicken sandwich at Chick-Fil-A. I say both! (I also might need to reconsider some life choices, but oh well)
Changelings are great because they have all creature types which means any tribal deck can use them. Some are extremely powerful, while others just have an interesting creature type. In this deck, however, we want to focus on low cost creatures. If they do something cool, bonus!
Realmwalker is awesome because it is every creature type but it can also cast creatures from the top of your library which instantly gives you card advantage, we will likely choose elf as our creature type when it comes in because they generally are going to be our lower cost creatures, our mana dorks, and likely the more prominent tribal type in our deck.
Remember any changeling on the field will trigger both aspects of Voja’s triggered ability so a Universal Automaton becomes a 1 drop enabler for both adding counters and drawing cards. Irregular Cohort provides two 2/2 bodies both of whom are changelings and give us more counters and cards.
Of course there are two cards here that are just amazing. Maskwood Nexus which makes all your creatures all creature types, and Shields of Velis Vel which does the same thing in instant form. Both are game changers with voja.
Elves
When it comes to elves, we generally want to have mana dorks. This is going to ramp us out quickly, but also allow us to have bodies out there to add counters to. A couple standouts besides the normal ones like Llanowar Elves are:
Gyre Sage who is going to get huge thanks to Voja.
Beast Whisperer will draw you lots of cards because we are going to be a creature heavy deck.
Yeva, Nature's Herald is also helpful in being able to get your cards out on your opponent’s turns.
All the versions of Tolsimir are great because they often come with a wolf token in tow.
Finally there is Shalai and Hallar… When you’re adding counters to every creature on your board equal to the number of elves you control, this card can take out an opponent.
Wolves
There are a few wolves out there, but its surprisingly fewer than you would think. Hollowhenge Overlord is really good, and so is Ferocious Pup. You play it and suddenly you have two wolves which means two more cards when Voja attacks. Another great wolf is Roaming Throne. I know what you’re thinking, “it’s a golem.” In this deck, it’s a wolf… trust me. Roaming throne will double all of Voja’s triggered abilities and now you’re thinking “Voja only has one triggered ability.“ Actually, Ward is a triggered ability. Which means now in order to target him, your opponents need to spend 6 mana!! So you swing with Voja, let’s be conservative and say that you have just llanowar elves, Voja, and roaming throne, you add 2 +1/+1 counters to everything and you draw 4 cards. Speaking of doubling that trigger: Annie Joins Up. A super underrated card so far and triggers on Voja, Shalai, and Tolsimir.
Other fun stuff
There are a couple other things that help support Voja as well. Counter multipliers and additional combat steps are all good things for this deck. You don’t want to put too many of those in though because when push comes to shove you’re likely going to just want a creature to play instead of another counter multiplier. I have Kami of Whispered Hopes in the deck, because it adds counters, but it also produces a crazy amount of mana which I can use to empty my hand of creature cards. Hardened Scales is fine and even Branching Evolution feels worthwhile, but I chose not to add any others.
For additional combats I added only two cards, one was Relentless Assault and the other is Great Train Heist. The latter is great because it has more versatility, is an instant, and costs the same as relentless assault for its first ability. Both of these cards can win the game pretty easily.
There are also wolf producers like Howling Moon which I’ve played in Arena with great results. (also pairs well with Tocasia's Welcome). Sword of Body and Mind produces wolves, gives protection, and mills your opponent. Arlinn, the Pack's Hope Flip is another powerful card since it produces wolves, but can also give you flash on your creatures.
Finally, there is a card that I’m proud to say I noticed before it became super popular. Silver Shroud Costume. I remember playing it in the dogmeat deck and thought, this is good, I’m going to put a copy into voja. At that time it was $5. It has since surged to $20 and there is a reason. It can flash out and attach to Voja, who is now hexproof, (in case ward 3 wasn’t enough) and unblockable gg.
Card Draw, ramp, interaction
Don’t forget your interaction. Just because Voja has ward 3 and is hard to spot remove, doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to be protected. Flawless Maneuver, Heroic Intervention, Teferi's Protection etc. will help keep him and the rest of your creatures safe.
As far as ramp goes, Voja wants creatures which means a lot of ramp is going to be in the form of mana dorks not mana rocks or traditional green ramp spells. I still added a few green ramp spells, but its definitely fewer than some of my other green decks.
Card draw is also a little different here. We’ve got Beast Whisperer and Tocasia's Welcome already and they work really well with the deck since the Beast whisperer is also an elf and tocasia’s welcome triggers with all of our mana dorks which we can flash out on other turns as well. Voja of course is the main card draw engine (seriously a commander who draws cards is just waiting to be abused). Other good cards here are Inspiring Call and Rishkar's Expertise.
About Card Draw
One quick note on card draw that has recently changed the way I think about it. I used to separate card draw into two different categories. Card draw engines which are ongoing effects that will give me cards as long as they remain on the field. The other is simply cards that draw more cards. Previously, I assumed that the former were excellent cards and the latter were well… not great. But as I was listening to The Command Zone they started talking about cards and the amount of triggers you can expect to get in a single game. This changed the way I thought about it. A card like Rhystic Study is great because you are likely going to get some cards from it, but your opponents can pay the 1 or they can remove it. The idea is to think about your card draw engines in terms of the average cards you get from it. This helped me starting think about the usefulness in a card like Inspiring Call which is likely to give me 4-5 cards when I play it, at least. Rishkar's Expertise similarly will net me upwards of 7-10 cards and play a spell from my hand. Meanwhile, rhystic study, which is a great card, will likely get me 5-6 cards before being dealt with, sometimes only a couple. It helped me shift my thinking and made me consider other cards that I had previously dismissed.
Lands
Not a lot of utility lands are needed in this deck, I did like Rogue's Passage, because a lot of times Voja is swinging for lethal commander damage. Making him unblockable is great.
Here is the final form: Voja, the good boy
And by final form, I mean the form I’m currently playing, but likely will change because decks are always being updated and changed. As always, hope you enjoyed the article and if you have any commanders or interactions that you want to see built, let me know in the comments.
rckclimber777 on
There and Back Again - A Changeling's Tale
1 year ago
I like the idea of the changeling deck. On first glance, I think 2 cards standout as potential cards to add: Maskwood Nexus and Kami of Whispered Hopes.
Kami will give you extra +1/+1 counters on your stuff, but also will help with ramp. I find him super helpful in my Voja deck for multiple reasons.
Maskwood nexus is also helpful in that you still have some cards that aren't scarecrows, but with maskwood nexus now all of your creatures are changelings and you can now can bring out a scarecrow anytime you want.