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If Static Orb is untapped, players can't untap more than two permanents during their untap steps.
Static Orb Discussion
2 weeks ago
@ jeacaveo Hey, just finished on my list so I'm here to discuss some choices I see on yours!
First and foremost I want to start with the card that most intrigues me in your iteration: Tidespout Tyrant . There is a part of me that absolutely loves this idea, it performs the same relative function as Crystal Shard and helps the deck generate deterministic lines. I'm just curious about the mana investment and how reliably you are able to find this piece in game. It feels like a card that will certainly decrease opening hand consistency as any opening hand with it will likely have to be shipped, but the upside of it to close out games seems incredible. It's one card that can perform both the roles of Crystal Shard and Cryptic Command at the same time in the same situation and I find it fascinating. I really hope you'll let me know how it performs for you in games over time.
Codex Shredder is a card I considered as this seems like a simple win condition, but there are relevant decks where it can't perform this function (Gitrog Monster for example) and winds up relegated to the same role as Elixir of Immortality with worse functionality in those situations. Ultimately I went with the Elixir as it enables the same win line (via Windfall ) with less downside in certain matchups.
Mystic Forge and Future Sight are interesting ideas to me. I haven't tried them out and they seem awkward, but I'd be really keen to know what kinds of situations these cards offer advantages for you in play testing and what kinds of situations aren't ideal for them.
Storage Matrix is something I've considered, but realistically speaking I just want out the Static Orb + Tangle Wire lock and devoting another card slot to a similar but less effective hate piece felt like a mistake to me. I haven't tested it though, so any updates you have on it's performance would be of interest to me as well.
Arcum's Astrolabe is definitely not a card I would want to run. Functionally it could perform the same role as Chromatic Sphere but is more difficult to cast and cannot be looped with something like Candelabra + Academy Ruins to generate a deterministic infinite mana line. This inclusion seems really sub par compared to other options that might be available and is probably the very first card I would replace in this list.
Neither Null Rod or Cursed Totem are going to be hate pieces I consider for an Urza list, but I think this is more out of personal bias than anything. I feel like they are just too disruptive to Urza's own game plan, too difficult to break parity on, and too easy to remove from the board in situations where you actually would like them to be in play. I hate Abrupt Decay , except when I love it.
Unwinding Clock can get really degenerate, but I only ever found it to have a "win more" function and ultimately I cut it since it only helped me to win harder than I already was winning rather than just help me win. I think there is some version of Urza that can make ideal use of it, but I haven't figured out what it would be yet and most Urza lists, I think, will find this card's performance unsatisfactory.
Dig Through Time and Recurring Insight aren't cards I'm really keen on. I want some serious card advantage for the resource investment and I'm not sure these options reliably offer the degree of advantage needed to compete with the best grinding decks while also being riskier plays due to the resource investment made to play them. I feel like there is some sort of more optimized route to gaining significant card advantage and this is definitely what I'm working on for my list at the moment, but I must admit I haven't found a solution that is truly ideal. It could certainly wind up being cards like these two in the end.
Merchant Scroll is a card I included in my original lists but I found it to simply be too ineffective. It's terrific for searching up a combo piece, but a lot of times there's an Ashiok out and about and I can't tutor any ways and even if I could I could probably get the same reward from a different card that offers additional value in a different situation and would be more flexible. I don't think your list can make use of Spellseeker , however, given it's construction, so this is probably the right card for this list given the parameters.
Memory Jar is something I have to keep an eye on as it's a great way to reload. Let me know how it performs for you as this is a card I intend to test at some point and just haven't gotten around to trying out quite yet.
3 weeks ago
Nerdytimesorwhatever Hey thanks for the advice I was dabbling with the idea of adding Winter Orb and Static Orb but once I spoke with my playgroups they preferred I didn't. As for adding moxes I only have Chrome Mox to add to the deck till I can buy the other moxes. Unfortunately proxies aren't allowed in my playgroup or else this deck would be tweaked with Timetwister and The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale .
3 weeks ago
I don’t know your meta but in a blind meta I think that you should play Sphere of Resistance , Static Orb Tangle Wire , Thorn of Amethyst , Trinisphere , Winter Orb and maybe Root Maze . You must add some restriction cards such as Containment Priest , Ethersworn Canonist and Spirit of the Labyrinth . In a graveyard environment you must play at least with Grafdigger's Cage and Rest in Peace . Autumn's Veil and Mirri's Guile are great additions too.
3 weeks ago
A lot of my experience is in competitive formats as well as some high-powered EDH, where games last 3-7 turns or so before someone combos out to win. A lot of my advice comes from that perspective, where you need to make a strong impact by turn 3 or risk losing! Casual commander is pretty fun too, but my meta has weaponized itself.
When comparing cards, I find its pretty helpful to list their stats side by side, because they aren't exactly the same but fill similar roles
- Always 2 CMC vs somewhere between 1 and 8 CMC (you're not casting it unless there's 1 critter on board lol)
- Wipes small creatures vs wipes the entire board
- Same timing restrictions, same color, both deal damage to remove
The reason I prefer Pyroclasm is because the cost is always guaranteed to be 2, which is highly playable for removal. As metas get more competitive, they tend to run lower CMC spells, including creatures. You see a lot of 1 mana drop elves (llanowar, fyndhorn, deepshadow, avacyns pilgrim, birds, deathrite shaman, etc.) that can be wiped by Pyroclasm. You also see a lot of creatures with strong hate abilities that can be killed by pyroclasm too, like Hushwing Gryff Aven Mindcensor Notion Thief Collector Ouphe and more. Pyroclasm is strong at removing all the supporting creatures that lock down the board or accelerate opponents to wins.
Its very easy to trade a pyroclasm for 3 of your opponents creatures in the first couple turns. Getting that 3 for 1 is card advantage for you, because you've removed 3 while only spending 1. Blasphemous Act does the same thing, but against 3 creatures on the board it would cost 6 mana to cast, versus just 2 for pyroclasm. Blasphact certainly scales better with more creatures, and its more likely to kill a whole board, so there's trade offs. Also worth noting that Pyro will snag about 50% of commanders, but that number lowers in casual play (bigger pool of playable commanders in casual, more have higher toughness) I would choose to run Pyroclasm in the majority of cases too.
We can do the same thing with Greenwarden and Ewit too
- 3 CMC vs. 6 CMC
- Non-tribe vs. Tribal (relevant for tutoring, cost reducing, triggered/activated effects)
- Recurs on ETB vs. Recurs on ETB and exile from GY (niche but relevant)
- Bad beater vs. Pretty good beater
Again, I personally like Ewit better. There is no denying that Greenwarden is in tribe and has the extra effect, but I think the lower CMC is way more important. It means that you can play it for value during your early turns to recur a powerful spell. It also lets you generate a value engine sooner with Ghostly Flicker or Displace (you bounce ewit and something else, use ewit to get the flicker back), but honestly you could just run both. Recursion is strong enough and they're both pretty good cards! They are also great when you up the tutor density, because it lets you get more mileage from them.
As far as ramp goes, I want to give you a new perspective on how to look at it. Your goal is to play your commander as fast as possible so you can start using its abilities (pretty common for a lot of decks). There are certain pieces of ramp that get you your commander a turn before you would get them with others.
For example, if you play a land on turn 1 2 and 3, and a piece of ramp on turn 1 or 2, you get a turn 3 commander.
- Turn 1, land
- Turn 2, land + any of these (Signets, Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Creativity , Talisman of Curiosity , Rampant Growth , Farseek , Nature's Lore , Three Wishes , Lotus Cobra )
- Turn 3, land + commander
Some of them even can tap for mana when they come in, letting you play other stuff too. Its also worth noting that a ramp piece on turn 1 AND 2 means you get a turn 3 commander before you play your land drop, which lets you get a landfall trigger immediately.
That isn't to say that Cultivate etc. are bad cards. But a cultivate turn 3 means a turn 4 commander, which would be possible with simple land drops turns 1-4. On the other hand, they give you a land to hand too, which helps guarantee more landfall triggers and also thins deck for better draws. In fact, I would just run more ramp pieces in general, so keep the ones you have and add in the talismans and rampant growth + variants and I'd say you're set!
Heroic Intervention is great in decks that can't run counterspells, basically decks without blue. In 90% of cases, you're going to use this as a counterspell, but the other 10% are dodging damage from creatures on the board (or abilities) or possibly using it to protect creatures while you're attacking. I think that a counterspell gives greater versatility overall, because you may also want to stop something that doesn't just target creatures, a la Winter Orb or Static Orb .
Release to the Wind has a lot of versatility. It can remove problem permanents for basically a turn, which can help greatly. Spot removal like Pongify outperforms it in terms of CMC and the guaranteed removal. Release to the Wind also lets you reuse ETB abilities of your own permanents, but this is rather expensive as you're paying the cost of the permanent + 3, whereas Ghostly Flicker is guaranteed to get the ETB effect for always 3 CMC. Release also lets you protect your own stuff from removal and exile, but once again, rather expensive. Its better on cheaper permanents for sure. It has an insane amount of flexibility for what it does though, which makes it worth a consider. I wouldn't run it but am not against the card being run.
3 weeks ago
You can take advantage of Urza's artifact tap ability with stuff like Static Orb , Storage Matrix , and Winter Orb . I cannot stress how good these are, just use Urza to tap them down on your last opponent's end step, and you don't suffer from their penalties during your untap step. It can totally lock opponents out of the game, while you actually produce mana for other activated abilities at end step by tapping these!!!
Might consider Freed from the Real in order to get some more untaps in. It combos with Master Transmuter (which you have) and Myr Battlesphere while Urza is on the field to give you infinite mana and Myrs. In fact, any artifact that brings in an additional artifact on ETB will allow this to go infinite.
I just made a Naban, Dean of Iteration deck, so I'm tempted to recommend him since he doubles Urza and your Trophy Mage et al triggers, but I don't think you have enough Wizards to really pull it off.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Crystal Shard , in my mind, has become the single most important win con for Paradox powered Urza lists. It's proven extremely effective in my limited testing thus far and provides value outside of situations where you are actively going off while being relatively easy to tutor for. It's also inexpensive so even budget builds should be running it as the primary win con.
Personally, I've had better performance with Sai, Master Thopterist than Mirrodin Besieged , although both cards fill a similar role. Enchantments are generally harder to remove, but they also don't block Tymnas. I tried running both and it felt a bit like overkill and what I really needed in that game was a piece of interaction or card draw over one of them to actually go off, but it might be the right call to run multiple of those effects ( Trail of Evidence also for consideration in that case as something similar).
I've got my list here if you're interested: Looper
1 month ago
Rout is an instant if you pay 7 for it. Return to Dust could also be fun in this deck. Also, have you thought of making Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage your commander and abusing stax rocks like Winter Orb and Storage Matrix and Static Orb .
Static Orb occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%