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Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player, tap all lands that player controls and untap all lands you control.
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Nature's Will Discussion
1 week ago
1 week ago
Now that the huge dinos are being spoiled for Rivals, its becoming more and more apparent that lots of ramp is needed, along with lots of ways to grow your lands into more useful engines.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
I would recommend Vedalken Orrery so you can spread out your spells on each players turn. Nature's Will is a good way of utalizing your mana dorks late game getting free hits off of sidar and resetting your mana reserves.
Chord of Calling is a great instant speed tutor that combos well with vial smasher, and you can use it to finish off an opponent late game by tapping everything into it.
Strionic Resonator Can double up your vial Smasher, Havoc festival or any other Triggered ability.
I hope this helps love the deck, it looks fun to play. If you want to see my take on vial and sidar look here The Meek Shall Inherit the Game
3 weeks ago
Some that I didn't see in the list but I run include Bear Umbra, Chief Engineer, City of Shadows, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Etherium Sculptor, Foundry Inspector, Gemhide Sliver, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Gyre Sage, Herald's Horn, Hickory Woodlot, Hollow Trees, Kiora, Master of the Depths, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Legion's Landing Flip, Mage-Ring Network, Manaweft Sliver, Myriad Landscape, Nature's Will, Nissa, Vital Force, Nissa, Worldwaker, Patron of the Orochi, Rushwood Grove, Sand Silos, Saprazzan Cove, Saprazzan Skerry, Sword of Feast and Famine, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Training Grounds, and Urza's Incubator.
1 month ago
Alright, this will probably be my last batch until new (non-Un)cards get spoiled. Since the deck seems to be in a state of what I recently learned is called Pareto optimality (https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pareto-romantic), in the sense that most cards fill an important role that makes it difficult to exchange them for something too different without breaking the deck, and the alternatives within the same niches tend to either miss some important feature or are too (meta-)conditional... which brings me to the cards:
Spinerock Knoll/Windbrisk Heights/Mosswort Bridge: compromises your ramp a bit for some conditional card advantage. The conditions for casting the card should pop up fairly frequently in this deck. Also has some minor synergy with Oracle of Mul Daya by letting you pseudo-scry away an inappropriate topdeck card
Nature's Will: Like giving each of your creatures a Sword of Feast and Famine, kind of. Also hates on the local counterspell/Leyline of Anticipation user. I like it because it ties together the deck's land subtheme & beatdown
Misc/weird token generators
Stormfront Riders: Potentially repeatably recast ETB dorks, letting you get a bit more mileage out them, while getting some extra tokens. As a bonus, if you let the creature itself stay on the battlefield it'll complement Teferi's Protection by providing another source of resiliency vs Cyclonic Rift
Ezuri's Predation: Another mass removal option that also happens to synergize with token gifting, but a bit unreliable because it can't kill fatties without the Beasts being boosted by other cards
(Genesis Chamber): Low cmc and ties into the group slug theme, but the deck can't abuse it too hard in its current state
(Beacon of Creation): Green Sun's distant and less successful relative
(Snake Pit): Obviously heavily meta-dependent but could be very nice in the right group
Potential Queen Ant replacements
(Night Soil): Low cmc, low activation cost and graveyard hate to boot, but meta-dependent.
Twilight Drover: More (flying) tokens per mana than the Queen. Synergizes with the token gifting and also Skullclamp. It should get counters pretty reliably throughout people's turns, but otherwise Curse of Predation and, to a greater extent, Orzhov Advokist makes it a bit more reliable. (Also tutorable with the Recruiters.)
Ulasht, the Hate Seed: More immediate alternative to Twilight Drover. A decent chunk of the deck will give it initial counters via color (although only Dragon Broodmother generates multiple gruul tokens for double counters) and it can use the same two cards as the Drover to refill its ammo. The damage ability provides some backup point removal which is hard to have too much of, and as a very cute bonus it synergizes with Hornet Nest by letting you ping it at the end of each turn for an extra value token, assuming the Nest isn't already damaged. (Even cuter is the fact that toughness-boosting cards like Mirari's Wake & Mirror Entity will increase the maximum amount of value tokens you can get per turn.) (Also tutorable with the Recruiters.)
(Sigarda, Heron's Grace): Again, meta-dependent. Aside from yourself and its own tokens, it gives hexproof to eight cards in the current deck. Even with Knight of the Reliquary sacrificing lands, I dunno if you put enough cards in your graveyard that you don't want to recur later to make this worthwhile. (Although it should be noted that the graveyard cards don't have to be creatures.) Body-wise I'd say 1 less power for flying is a good deal
1 month ago
These are the cards above 10 dollars and what to include instead:
- Exploration can be changed for Burgeoning, but Exploration is more explosive since it lets you also cast a one mana creature on turn one and attack with it on turn two, drawing a card.
- Temporal Manipulation can be changed for Part the Waterveil
- Time Warp is very importart, I would recommend you buying it (I'm saving for Capture of Jingzhou since 5 mana take a turn are crucial for going off), but if you are short on money Temporal Trespass may do the trick
- Gaea's Cradle can be replaced with Boreal Druid. Don't use Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, since it is too slow. Remember to take out Crop Rotation
- Flusterstorm can be replaced with some other cheap counterspell, maybe Mana Leak, Disdainful Stroke or Swan Song (beware: the bird token blocking your flying creatures is very annoying)
- Force of Will can be replaced with Foil, specially since you will have more basics by taking out fetches. Abjure is another good option.
- Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt and Mana Crypt: fast mana is really important for this deck, maybe Elvish Spirit Guide can replace one, also try Druids' Repository and Nature's Will (specially if there is stax in your meta.
Regarding the mana base, just take of all the fetches, shocks and Cavern of Souls (its not that important) and replace them with duals lands that come into place untapped, like Reflecting Pool and Exotic Orchard (this is very important). If you don't find lands that come into play untapped, just play basics, a high basic land count its actually a good thing since Elvish Pioneer on turn one is one of your more explosive hands (it lets you cast Edric on turn two and attack with a creature).
This is a very "all in" version of the deck. Maybe a budget friendly version could try to be more resilient and run cards like Coastal Piracy, Bident of Thassa and more ways of protecting your creatures from wrath effects, Wrap in Vigor, Chasm Skulker, Hangarback Walker, Whisperwood Elemental, Foundry of the Consuls, Faerie Conclave are just some that come to mind.
This deck started as a budget one, and it did very well then :) it does improve with expensive cards, but not as much as you would think.
Best of luck! Upload yours when you build it and let me know of the results.
2 months ago
legomanalec There is another infinite combo: Bear Umbra/Sword of Feast and Famine and Hellkite Charger (if you have seven lands, two of which can produce red). Nature's Will will also satisfy this combo's land-untapping component. There may be other cards as well that do this, but I don't think any more of these effects warrant inclusion.
There is also the "classic" Scion combo with Moltensteel Dragon and a double-strike trampler like Dragon Tyrant or Atarka, World Render.
The main reason I don't put a large focus on infinite combos is because they are easier to break (and many combo-centric decks will easily outpace this one in a combo race). I win most of my games with Living Death/Patriarch's Bidding, which are harder to break.
I also like the subtle Feldon of the Third Path & Keiga, the Tide Star/Yosei, the Morning Star combination. It gets dealt with most of the time, but unless someone is keenly aware of what's about to happen, I can get away with 2 and sometimes even 3 turns of this, which can be a game changer.