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Rest in Peace
When Rest in Peace enters the battlefield, exile all cards from all graveyards.
If a card or token would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
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Rest in Peace Discussion
1 hour ago
Blood Artist dies to Heartless Summoning. I would recommend adding more Trinket Mages to get Altar. You could also get away with running a single Nihil Spellbomb in the main to tutor up with the mage. The opportunity cost is pretty low since it cycles for 2 mana.
Your sideboard should also include some options to bounce things that are already on the field like Rest in Peace. Echoing Truth or Engineered Explosives could work here while you can even tutor up the Explosives.
5 days ago
Take out Teferi's Protection Counterspell Meishin, the Mind Cage Imprisoned in the Moon Steel of the Godhead Go for the Throat Thassa, God of the Sea Sphere of Safety Do or Die Aegis of the Gods Arcane Adaptation Drake Haven Spell Swindle Chill to the Bone Shielded by Faith Bruna, Light of Alabaster Faith of the Devoted Vanishing Ghostly Prison The Scarab God Rend Flesh AEther Barrier Eyeblight's Ending,
put in Mystic Remora Preordain Blind Obedience Arcane Laboratory Rest in Peace Planar Void Oblivion Ring Sol Ring Mana Vault Consulate Crackdown Energy Flux Tunnel Vision (combo with open the vaults) Serum Visions Thought Scour Negate Lightning Greaves
I don't know what kind of theme or way of winning you are trying to go for. you don't really have a way to win with this deck. You need to get some kind of combo. Zur is very powerful because he can tutor an enchantment out of your deck so use that to your advantage and try to put in cards that are 3 or less so that your commander can have a greater effect. Try to go find an infinite combo or you can also build stax. You won't win consistently if you don't have an infinite combo. You might find other versions of zur on this site that are good (probably not). CEDH Reddit can probably help you out... though some of the things might be expensive. The things I suggested are just a couple relatively cheap cards that make a big impact. Try to have a theme in your deck whether it is control/combo or voltron or pillowfort.
1 week ago
Yes, the short answer is that both ichor well spring and pia's revolution will both happen regardless of if it returns to your hand.
Here's the longer answer if you are curious how the interaction works within the rules:
When Ichor wellspring is put into the graveyard it's own ability will trigger. At the same time, pia's revolution sees that an artifact goes to the yard so it triggers as well. You then get to choose which of the two triggers resolves first. Regardless of the order you pick, both will still resolve. Even if you have the revolution resolve first, ichor well spring doesnt care if it's in your hand, graveyard, or anywhere else at that moment. All that it looked for was that initially it was moved from the battlefield to the graveyard and thus it is still on the stack and will then draw you a card.
Technicalities that likely won't be relevant but might as well list to be complete:
This interaction is different than something like the second ability of Rest in Peace which prevents the artifact from entering the graveyard at all, denying you the "put into a graveyard trigger".
Also worth noting that pia's revolution does care about it being in the graveyard when it resolves. If the artifact leaves the graveyard with the revolution trigger on the stack due to something like Cremate, it is no longer in the graveyard and thus can't be returned to your hand, but as previously mentioned ichor wellspring recognizes that it hit the graveyard first and will still give you a card.
1 week ago
@meowndabout Nice questions! Glad to help with this. I changed the write up slightly, to include a sample blue print for playing the deck. That answers some of your questions, other ones are below.
Fauna Shaman - usually you discard extra mana elves (which aren't that great in the mid-game) to get actual stax pieces or utility creatures. But, also, you can just discard anything. It turns each creature into a Worldly Tutor + free card draw.
Loyal Retainers - this is actually best with Iona, Shield of Emeria, which is decent to run if your meta has some mono-colored decks. However, it's worth leaving in the deck even without Iona, just to get back anything that happens to get killed. It's pretty good reanimation, just by itself.
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale - Actually, Magus of the Tabernacle is a pretty good replacement. Tabernacle is here mostly to combat other decks that rely on creatures and mana elves (like us), but have a harder time tutoring for Gaea's Cradle. To perform this function, another answer is Defense of the Heart. Magus might be better since it's a creature and slides under your Thorn of Amethyst effects.
Nullstone Gargoyle - this is a new card I'm testing. It's easily hard-castable with Gaea's Cradle and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. And it's a pretty strong lock with Eidolon of Rhetoric. Yes, if I could get this lock together, I'd just cast creature after that.
Recruiter of the Guard - you just get whatever you need for the situation you're in. Get whatever stops your opponents the hardest. You have to know how your opponent's strategies work.
Sanctum Prelate - pretty much always names 2 or 3. These stop boardwipes that sneak under Gaddock Teeg; on three you stop: Toxic Deluge and Fire Covenant; on two you stop Cyclonic Rift and Pyroclasm. I usually pick either 2 or 3 based on which board wipe I'm more afraid of at the moment; but in either case you end up shutting off large parts of your opponents' decks.
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard - this is becoming less important in this list; however I think it's still probably good enough to run. Yeah, you just get whatever is most helpful. You can either get Quirion Ranger on 1 to activate Yisan or Sisay twice per turn, or you get Sylvan Safekeeper to guard Sisay against spot removal. After that, you know, get whatever you need.
Crop Rotation - there's a lot of strong lands in the list. Strip Mine and Horizon Canopy are very good with Ramunap Excavator. You can also get Tabernacle. You can get one of the ramp-lands like Gaea's Cradle, nykthos, or Ancient Tomb. If possible, you should always sacrifice a Flagstones of Trokair.
Creature tutors - You get whatever you really need top stop what your opponents are doing. These tutors let you get non-legendary creatures tho, so sometimes you can get Sanctum Prelate or Eidolon of Rhetoric or Spirit of the Labyrinth if one of those seems really appropriate, or you're in a winning position already, you can go for the kill with Shaman of the Forgotten Way or a lock with Nullstone Gargoyle.
Enlightened Tutor - yes, frequently the most powerful thing to get with this is Living Plane, although there's a lot of great artifact/enchantment stax pieces you may want, particularly Rest in Peace, Null Rod or Sphere of Resistance. It can get ramp in Mana Crypt or Carpet of Flowers. It can also get Lightning Greaves which can be great for Sisay. This card is awesome in this list.
Gemstone Caverns, Chrome Mox - these are ramp, which is totally critical. You just exile whatever you don't need. Try to prioritize playing a turn 1 or 2 stax piece with these ramp cards. Also think about when you will play Sisay. If you have these ramp cards, try to set up a sequence where you play a stax card turn 1, a mana creature turn 2, and SIsay turn 3.
Null Rod, Stony Silence - these only shut off our artifact ramp, not our creature ramp. Only play them if they're going to hurt your opponents more than they hurt you. But the deck is pretty much designed so that it's usually pretty asymmetric, although certain hands and board states can make it more nuanced.
You can totally run snow lands if you want to.
Solemnity - this doesn't do anything...
Ashes of the Abhorrent - This can work if your meta has a lot of reanimation or storm...
1 week ago
Suns_Champion, thanks for the upvote and the very kind words. I appreciate it. Here are my initial answers to your questions. I may have other answers as I think more about your questions, but these are my answers based on what I have seen so far.
First, the deck is fun, and if you already win most games, this deck will probably not change that, unless you are seriously cutthroat already. It basically just evens the power of most decks until the last round or two, and plays as a 75% deck at every table I have found it. I probably wins more than that, but this is because I am the most experienced and obsessed player in my normal meta (it has seen 2 different metas so far, due to a move) and when I show up at random tables, no one really expects it. It has become more popular to play Queen Marchesa, but not enough to be that big of a deal. I would love people to build it and give me feed back on how it does at more tables than I can reach. Even with the concerns about inexperience in your meta, it can withstand more hate than it seems, and while the intention is to ride below the radar, even if it doesn't, it can still often hang. If they waste resources on your death touchers, even the Queen, something else will get them. The Queen and her deathtouch army definitely add to the strategy, but the deck runs fine if they are taken out. Something gets them in the end.
Second, as for Swiftfoot Boots and Lightning Greaves, I didn't include them for two reasons. First, I needed the slots. It is a really tight list. Second, removing the Queen is less of a problem than you think. Bring her back out and you are the Monarch again. This provides some disincentive to take her out, at least for the guy who is currently or soon will be the Monarch. She is fairly inexpensive with a CMC of , so this can happen a few times before it gets truly out of hand. For a minor third reason, you only get half of the benefit of those cards when playing with Queen Marchesa, since she already has haste. I found better uses for those slots.
Third, Price of Progress, Anathemancer, and Acidic Soil are all just cards with a low CMC and a high potential damage for the average meta. Commander is notorious for non-basics. If this is not worth it in your meta, think about a resource, situation, or game characteristic that is very common in your meta, and hit them for that. If a bajillion creatures are often on the board, try mainboarding Insurrection, Incite Rebellion, and Stronghold Discipline. If people draw a ton of cards, try Underworld Dreams and Sudden Impact. Go after common game states and the usual overreach for your meta. Take advantage of the way that players build their decks to work. Use their strategy to take them down. Become one with their deck, let their power become yours. There are many ways to do this, I have just seen that excessive lands, especially nonbasic lands, can be a source of power for my offense, and Price of Progress and Anathemancer are usually just really efficient bombs.
Fourth, there have been a few times I have really wanted Arcane Lighthouse. It is pretty amazing. This has been especially true against really aggressive decks, especially voltron decks, since Greaves/Boots are standard issue for voltron. That is definitely a consideration, and probably could be fit in if shroud/hexproof are a problem.
Fifth, Scavenger Grounds is a great card, and if graveyard is a serious threat in your meta, it is a good include. I find that with Bojuka Bog, Shred Memory, and Rakdos Charm, I am often covered well enough. If it got further out of hand with the graveyard shenanigans, I would possibly include Scavenger Grounds, or maybe Rest in Peace.
Sixth, Pacification Array is pretty weak. It occasionally allows for something surprising, since it is often forgotten about, and is otherwise pretty cheap. It probably gets played from my hand as a sorcery speed tap one creature or artifact card for immediate advantage more than any other way, but it does act as a decent Kor Haven replacement with some frequency. Think of it like surprise tempo, defense, and politics all wrapped up in a relatively cheap package. I like how flexible it is, being used for both offensive and defensive uses, as well as politically by defending other players (rare) or opening a line of attack against a common opponent (more frequent) so that I can encourage that attack to point away from me. It is honestly still in there because I have just not taken it out again, since it has come out before, but you may be overlooking it's subtle power. It will get replaced with Forcefield when I can get one. With a deck as pimped as I have made this, Forcefield kind of needs to be in there. It will be some day. For someone else's deck, it could be just about anything.
Thanks again for the kind words. I look forward to seeing your version when you make it. It really is a ton of fun to play, and never disappoints, even when it loses.
1 week ago
Here's a good sideboard by the way:
- 3 Relic of Progenitus (better than Rest in Peace locking out combo forever)
- 3 Leyline of Sanctity
- 1 Rule of Law (can be tutored)
- 1 Nevermore
- 2 Disdainful Stroke
- 1 Dispel
- 2 Ceremonious Rejection (Tron is an awful matchup; more reason to play Spreading Seas)
- 1 Settle the Wreckage
- 1 Supreme Verdict
1 week ago
Ghost Quarter, especially when paired with aven mindcensor, is more efficient as it doesn't require additional mana. if it is in the budget Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth would work well as a one or two, letting you tap colorless for black. Rest in Peace is a great sideboard card, Judge's Familiar works pretty well in taxes as well. Looks fun to play, good luck with it!
1 week ago
I think I had 2 slots for Stony Silence in the past, but ran into so few decks I actually sided it in, that I kind of settled for Nature's Claim for enchantments too. I will flex the SB according to what I run into most, so it will find its way back when I feel the need.
Thanks for your feedback.