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Muddle the Mixture
Counter target instant or sorcery spell.
Transmute (1)(Blue)(Blue) ((1)(Blue)(Blue), Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same converted mana cost as this card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library. Play only as a sorcery.)
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Muddle the Mixture Discussion
18 hours ago
You may wish to run at most five ramp spells in this deck: Kodama's Reach, Shard Convergence, Seek the Horizon, Rampant Growth and Explosive Vegetation are staples in this. You might also wish to consider Wild Pair. Muddle the Mixture is a counter spell and is on theme. I hope these have helped!
6 days ago
Hi faricane, nice to hear ya :) let me get through your points step by step.
- The cards
Muddle the Mixture is a good counterspell on its own . that way it has 2 purposes inside this list - tutor or counter.
Mercurial Chemister is just a personal thing. he granted me many cards in games as he wont be the first target to get removed. you could drop him for another tutor.
Commander's Sphere and Manalith are in here for my dramatic scepter combo as i need rocks to produce every kind of mana to go infinite with breya. for sure your mentions are a great addition. i just dont added them cause i dont have any more copies of them.
Rune-Scarred Demon is just a tutor and a beater on a stick. i just like him if games take the long run and i need to rely on some boardpresence. at least 7cmc is not a problem with all the mana ramp this list offers.
Zulaport Cutthroat is not really neccesary in this list. ya, he can go infinite within the sharuum-combo, but we have other options to winthe game without him. i would not add more effects like his one cause i like to fill the spots with other spells. i would only 1 spell in his slot that supports the sharuum-combo that way. you can go for Altar of the Brood instead.
Cyclonic Rift a great card and i played it many months in this list. then i just removed it for other decks. breya didnt need it that much. i go for the disk-combo instead to set opponents back in late game (if we even get there)
Saheeli's Directive and Time Sieve are really bad! why? they are only great when you have access to any infinite (mana or tokens) but at this point you already won the game. you dont need those "win-more" cards. they just steal slots of your 99s.
myr retriver and co.: we dont need much recursion. i already have Daretti, Scrap Savant, Goblin Welder, Sharuum the Hegemon and Academy Ruins. they are all better. at least we got Elixir of Immortality if things really went wrong lol.
Suggestions: you wrote that you would cut the Vampiric Tutor for budget reasons. i fully agree, but keep in mind: your fast pace relies on your tutors. VT is one of the cards i would really recommend for this deck as it is the fasted tutor besides Enlightened Tutor. on lucky days you might find a cheap one on ebay or other trading sides :)
1 week ago
Hey :) could you add a description what exactly are your wincons? I see the Dramatic Reversal Isochron Scepter Combo for Infinite Mana With rocks. But what do you do if the scepter is removed, and so your Dramatic reversal. What do you imprint then?
Muddle the Mixture tutor for Isochron and dramatic reversal, but what to get if they are already removed?
Mercurial Chemister why him? I see the value with isochron but drawing two cards for 6 Mana in a full turn cycle or 4 cards for 7mana in two turns doesn't seem that god, correct me if I'm wrong I don't play that long.
Why Commander's Sphere Manalith ? Depends on what you need them for, Pillar of Originsnaming human works for breya and some cards and costs 1 less. Coalition Relic is better than Manalith in every way. I would prefer a Chromatic Lantern over manalith,too because there is no downside to do so.
Rune-Scarred Demon I know he's good, and works with the deadeye. But Diabolic Tutor is 3 Mana cheaper. Not sure about that but seems more reliable because you can keep open Mana. Or maybe Lim-Dul's Vault
What if Zulaport Cutthroat is removed?
Reshape - Tutor
Altar of the Brood - additional wincon if Zulaport dies
Tezzeret, Artifice Master - for Mercurial chemister maybe? Draws two cards most of the time without need to wait.
Cyclonic Rift - way too slow, I see that, but is a huge drawback for your opponents
Blood Artist - Zulaport again
Impact Tremors - Zulaport again
Disciple of the Vault - yep Zulaport again
Saheeli's Directive - semi-Loot/Tutor, awesome with Infinite mana
Time Sieve - with the ability of making xfinite thopters this can be awesome.
Tezzeret the Seeker - tutors, imo better that the demon, because he can do it Multiple times if you know exactly what you want and have blockers. Worst case next turn if he survives is Tutor for 1 CMC or ramping
All in all I like that Deck pretty much, but for Budget reason I'm gonna cut vampiric tutor for me.
As soon as it's build together I'll test it.
Hope for an answer:)
1 week ago
Pickachu202, the petals are often used to splash colours for protection spells, and forcing your opponents hand, or making them play reactively. The sideboard in this deck is to change strategy and catch them off-guard, so for this particular deck, I could almost be strict enough to say the petals are dead draws unless you are trying to float blue mana to bluff a counterspell, or actually legit include one, and change your sideboard to combo protection instead of strategy switch.
In non-pauper it will force counterspells because people must choose between countering your Lotus Petal or Autumn's Veil that you are (most assumedly) casting petal to attempt to use (or Angel's Grace and the like, depending on what combo decklist you are running). Usually you keep a land that can tap for the colour of the one drop spell up so that when they choose which one you still resolve the other, unless miraculously they found 2 counterspells for each attempt, in which case it doesn't matter cos they don't have a third, or the mana for a third, to stop the wincon spell like Haunting Misery.
A top notch counterspell to consider for the Lotus Petal Protection strategy in Pauper, is of course Muddle the Mixture because if nothing else after floating your threatening blue mana, you will tutor a cabal ritual off of it when you start to struggle for fuel to the combo, not only this but you sacrifice a petal AND discard a muddle, meaning you filled your graveyard by two cards to reach threshold even quicker.
(You could consider this an early game jank graveyard filler, and combo enabler, if you are versing a deck where you do not need to concern yourself with counterspells. I've found three or four times in my playtests with this current list I have a cabal in hand, and only 5-6 cards in graveyards, struggling to fill it while keeping enough mana to cast the threshold cabal on the same turn).
The advantage to floating your blue mana is bluffing or not, you increase the chances of comboing uninterrupted for a while as your opponent works out whether they need to invest in stopping you. With this particular jank combo it's borderline impossible to tell if somebody is whiffing, 'cos 90% of it literally looks like a whiff, you're just floating mana, cycling random shit, losing life, until the end where you drop the finishers.
The downsides to floating blue mana. You cannot pump Consume Spirit with it. Though this should be largely ignoreable considering it will still tutor for your ritual to compensate with black mana once you're ready.
Another upside to splashing blue for lotus petal is throwing in dimir backwaters for gain 1 life dual lands. Goes a long way when you start to recycle Wraiths. But this will slow and hurt your landbase a little. However it's still tutoring mana which again still makes up for it.
1 week ago
Aaerys No problem!
Yes definitely keep the artifact synergy, honestly if you don't like the combo approach and want to go for the more interaction routes with fun things to play (like playing with other people's deck ;3) than I would suggest more protection, counterspells, artifact synergy, card draw, as well as interaction.
Here is a list of some additional cards that I found useful and within the $20 or less range.
These cards will make opponents less likely to hit you, or will at least slow them down enough for you to interact with them.
A couple more useful counters, best one I like to use for Sen Triplets is cards like Remand, Muddle (because the 2 cmc transmute comes in clutch), and Arcane Denial as it gives more options to choose from their hand.
Shimmer Myr and Raff Capashen are honestly auto include in my opinion, giving the ability to flash in your commander and not waiting to wait one whole turn before her upkeep effect is amazing, it also allows us to hold up mana to interact with other players before deciding what we can do. The curve is also great since Shimmer Myr is 3 cmc and Raff is 4 cmc, we can hold mana for our counterspells and interactions and if the coast is clear flash in Sen. Trophy Mage is for the redundancy that you have more than a likely chance of tutoring your Shimmer Myr or Crystal Shard (Shard always makes sure that your opponent will be reluctant to tap out and thus preventing them to cast more creature spells). Voltaic Key is there just for more fun shenanigans, I always like having them in these type of artifact decks. Academy Ruins is a card I would highly recommend investing into, it saves your artifacts, it allows recursion, and if the case where Sen dies, you won't have to consistently pay the tax for it with this card on the field.
On another note Paradox Engine is a powerful card, it allows you to gain extreme amount of value, hence the reason you would want to include more mana rocks into the deck. I added Aetherflux into list in the case you want to close out a game, since you are running Isochron Scepter already, adding in Dramatic Reversal will be your win con and also allows you to net infinite mana and play your opponents hand if you so would choose. The playstyle is all there for you to choose ;3
Some choice cards I like to use, Notion Thief is there for them really sneaky plays when there is a mass Windfall or if someone taps out for a burst draw. Sphinx is a high power card engine. The time warp is there for just pure value.
Some notable cards are like Snap, which untaps your land and bounces the creature back to their hand, pure value if its your turn next as now you will be able to cast that creature as well! Capsize is also a deadly card, as you can bounce their land and then play the land you bounced on your turn with Sen on the field, buyback is also killer (I have people scooped many times when I used this trick 1v1). Tower of Magistrate is really interesting against other people playing with artifacts (This auto de-quips voltron commanders!). A lot of these spells can also be copied on to Isochron Scepter making them extremely useful for you to control your opponent and allowing them what spells they can play, bouncing the spells you want to play from their deck, and removing the cards you don't like.
One more card which is a great mana rock.
Hopefully this gives you a better idea of a Control Sen Triplets shell, I think you can tell that this was one of my favorite decks before I retired her ;P
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Phenax is fun. What're you normally transmuting for? You might wanna include Muddle the Mixture so you can grab Mindcrank or the Guildmage. My Phenax deck is happy to stumble upon the combo kill if it draws into it but I'm pretty content playing cheap, stupid walls. Tree of Perdition is also a hilarious include.
2 weeks ago
I would definitely replace your Thought Erasures with another Dimir Infiltrator, And one more of each of your combo cards. Need 4x of each of your combo pieces. There's nothing more frustrating than waiting to draw or the right moment to tutor your winning piece.
It also beefs the Transmute mechanic. Allowing you to use Muddle the Mixture as a badly needed counter, instead of a tutor.
Delver of Secrets Flip feels weak in this deck. It doesn't add to your archetype, and relies on revealing your instants and sorceries, for a 3/2 flyer that dies to Shock. Consider Thing in the Ice Flip, to make the spells you cast controlling the tempo of the game work toward a boardwipe and alternate wincon. Remember, the less your opponent knows about your weapon, the better.
Runechanter's Pike and Vendilion Clique also feel a bit out of place. Clique is just an expensive Thoughtseize, and Pike doesn't win you games. I would suggest more hand hate: Thoughtseize, Duress, Despise
Hope this helps!