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Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Planeswalker — Elspeth
+1: Put Three 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens onto the battlefield.
-3: Destroy all creatures with power 4 or greater.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have flying."
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Elspeth, Sun's Champion Discussion
1 week ago
1 week ago
Okay! Now that I have a few more minutes to write detailed responses...
IAmTheWraith: Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants has been...surprisingly helpful? He's not the most powerful walker in the world, but his ult is neat (and this deck can actually get there). The 3 white tokens per turn are one free exile with Teysa. I could see Ajani, Caller of the Pride in that slot I suppose, but I wanted my wincons to not be defeated by a board wipe (hence why I've largely avoided "one-time" token effects). I may rethink this in the future.
Liliana, Death's Majesty has been AMAZING in this deck. Sure, her ult doesn't help much, but her -3 is invaluable and her +1 is really nice, to produce a consistent stream of blockers/sac fodder (not to mention the fantastic art). Liliana Vess is definitely an option, though - I'm still tinkering with my PW composition.
I'm not fully convinced by Oath of Liliana, but Oath of Gideon seems pretty decent here. I do not like Deploy the Gatewatch, since you need twenty-eight PWs in your deck to consistently hit 2 in the top 7 cards. And I'll think on Selfless Spirit!
Thank you all for your advice! (And is there anything you'd change in the newer draft?)
1 week ago
This deck could use some more ramp, card draw, and lands. Also you have two cards too many in the list so that's a slight problem too.
Some cards to cut would be Sun Titan, Burning of Xinye, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Great Furnace (It's strictly worse than a basic Mountain in this build as it dies to artifact removal and you have no synergy with it) and kinda Chance for Glory and Hostility. Sun Titan only returns permanents and most of your deck is instants and sorceries. I really don't think you want to destroy and of your own lands so the Burning is pretty bad. You have enough board wipe effects that also synergize with your commander and you don't have much of a token strategy going on so Elspeth seems pretty out of place. I suppose she's a potential alternate win-con, but most your deck has the ability to win off of any number of top-decks late in the game. I see how Chance for Glory is tempting, but it seems like a really niche card and I think I would rather have card draw in its place. Hostility is the card I'd like to see in action before really making a decision on. I feel like it could often just be a dead card because you'll want to be dishing out lots of damage and gaining lots of life with Firesong and Sunspeaker on the field, but I suppose it's another alternate win-con that synergizes with the deck.
I would think about adding Fateful Showdown and Khorvath's Fury since they draw cards and deal damage. Also, Magus of the Wheel if you can get your hands on one. Really and effect that either deals damage or draws more cards than you discard when you discard. Plus wheel effects are good for disrupting opponent's strategy. Rocks that draw cards like Hedron Archive, Dreamstone Hedron and Commander's Sphere are also good ideas.
In sum, get down to 100 cards, add more lands, ramp, and draw spells.
2 weeks ago
Hey there, nice to see another Proc player on here.
I tried Avacyn but always go back to
Main deck Parasite is good right now too.
Plus 1 from me.
2 weeks ago
If your main strategy is flooding the board with tokens, I think a more suitable planeswalker could be Elspeth, Sun's Champion, who can also act as a board-wipe for larger creatures while leaving your tokens unaffected. If she wasn't available, other versions of Elspeth or even Gideon, Ally of Zendikar could also be a big help here.
A good enchantment you can add could be Parallel Lives, which does pretty much the same as Anointed Procession. Of course a great addition would be Doubling Season, but it's a rather expensive card, so you might want to wait and see how much you'd like to invest in this deck first.
Cheaper token producing spells you may want to consider could be Raise the Alarm, Spectral Procession and Timely Reinforcements. A good card that can played at any point of the game is also Secure the Wastes.
3 weeks ago
This deck is a little weird. It looks like its having an identity crisis, as in not sure if it wants to be Jeskai or Azorious. If you're sticking with Jeskai, you'll probably want to split 3x Bolt and 3x Helix, and cut the verdicts for Settle the Wreckage so you don't wrath your own creatures. Dispel belongs in the sideboard, Disallow is just bad and doesn't belong in a Modern control deck at all, and Search for Azcanta, Path #4, and one copy of Spell Snare should be moved to the main. I'm also not sure Jace as a 3 of is good in Jeskai since you're not running Miracles. Elspeth, Sun's Champion would be fine, or Vendilion Clique. Terminus needs to be run as a 4 of in the main for it to be any good. Jeskai lists also usually run 1-2 copies of Electrolyze for flexibility and additional card draw and possibly a third copy of Logic Knot since you're throwing so much fuel into your graveyard. I'm not sure about 2 copies of Negate in the main, I usually like one main and one side since it's kind of dead against Humans against Humans and Spirits. That one probably depends on your Meta.
3 weeks ago
K4m4r0 the only reason I don’t use it is because it’s too expensive. I don’t have an unlimited budget and since the only effective upgrade Doubling Season has over Parallel Lives for this deck is letting Elspeth, Sun's Champion enter the battlefield with double loyalty counters I thought it wouldn’t be worth the massive increase in price.
1 month ago
This is a great start. Here are some suggestions from a Trostani deck that I use, organized by pricing tiers to help keep this deck budget:
3/3 Tokens and another way to populate
Alternate Win Condition. Probably works better with Trostani as commander due to the increased life gain, but there's quite a bit of life gain in this deck regardless, so it may work.
Some token protection
Get a variety of tokens out quick
Advent of the Wurm
Just a decent token to populate later
Fog with populate. Optional, but not too bad
White Sun's Zenith
Utilize that mana and go wide
Speaking of going wide, mega populate
Just get some dudes on the board
Board wipe with a token upside
Go wide with a little extra damage, and still have some blockers left
Tamiyo's Journal A slow tutor, but might draw you some cards if you can't get to the tutor
$1 - $5
Potentially double your board, with 4/4 fliers!
Another mass token maker, but with 1/1 fliers (evasion is nice)
Alternate win condition. Probably better with Trostani as commander as you need to be able to absorb a loss of 50 life, but even in commander, most other people won't be able to say the same.
Win condition. With a wide board, +5/+5 is huge. Also creatures enter the battlefield with the +5/+5, so with Trostani out that's some good extra life gain.
Consistent way to get some decent tokens. Also protection from flying
Life gain, removal, mill protection, and tutor? This card just has value.
Again, designed for Trostani to double up on life gain, but helps with any ETB effects you have, of which there are a couple
Should be in any white token deck
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Create creatures, get rid of big threats, maybe get your team in the air
Often a one-sided boardwipe, makes a ton ot tokens, and will sometime just win the game
Chord of Calling
Green tutor with convoke. You have a bunch of tokens, why not?
Green Sun's Zenith
Potentially reusable creature tutor. have to have the mana available, but it will find answers for you.
Not exactly budget, but valuable in a token deck
Artifact and Enchantment Tutor. Again, not really budget, but likely worth it in your deck