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Vryn Wingmare Discussion
21 hours ago
SynergyBuild on Roon
2 days ago
That wins turn one, you fetch a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Phyrexian Delver, Pestermite, reanimate the Delver, to reanimate Kiki-Jiki, copy the delver, return the mite, Pestermite + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to win.
The deck Grixis Twin can win a a ton of ways turn one, so can flash-hulk, and food chain tazri, etc.
You honestly gave the second worst example for a deck to win fast with Teferi, it is a stax deck, Blood Pod is a tad bit worse, it is a beatdown stax build, so even a perfect god hand might not win with it turn one.
The stax lock you gave takes way longer than turn 4 to pull off, and infinite removal won't affect storm, so I don't know why you think that stops your opponents, Winter Orb can shut off a table on its own, that is what stax is, not a combo. Tangle Wire slows down a tables tempo a ton. Smokestack might take some time, but it works, Armageddon single-handely has won many a game. Stax is about those cards, not Acidic Slime.
Armageddon, Ravages of War, Catastrophe, Cataclysm, Ruination, Decree of Annihilation (cycle it), Sphere of Resistance, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Thorn of Amethyst and the like are real stax cards. A 3 card combo that costs 11 mana (not including Palinchron's cost, it is kind of free.) isn't what turns a deck into a stax deck.
I said a control deck should run 30+ answers, none of the decks I mentions after were control, I apologize, that was on me. Control is a cEDH strategy, in the way it is in Tier 2-2.5, but I was only talking tier 1 lists, so it didn't fit there, I apologize again if I didn't mention that.
Yes, Roon is a tier 2.5 list on that tier list, I respect that entirely, you know the decklist that was mentioned there? Prison Can Roon Your Life, a stax deck, you know what cards it runs? Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, and do you know what it doesn't run? Acidic Slime, Deadeye Navigator, Palinchron, cards like that.
Hokori and Seedborn Muse are good cards, I will give you that, honestly, my suggestions are one of two, turn the deck into Prison Can Roon Your Life, or something of similar competitiveness, like Bant Flash + Protean Hulk, or drop the "competitive" hub.
2 days ago
I want to preface this with that I don't want to claim you, your deckbuilding skills, or this deck is bad. I simply want to make notice of the "competitive" tag you placed on this list. I would like to see it removed due to what I believe is a mistake and might be misleading.
Competitive lists are normally Tier 1 to 2.5 lists that tend to either:
A - Be able to race out wins with a tad bit of protects, turn 1-4 wins need to be regular.
B - Able able to set up a lock on the game like Trinisphere + Winter Orb + Tangle Wire, and pull a win through that lock.
C - Be able to counter or remove any combo win or stax lock your opponents drop before they win, and then pull a win yourself.
These three archetypes are "Combo", "Stax" and "Control" respectively. Occasionally decks do fit multiple archetypes and are a hybrid of them.
This deck cannot race between turns 1-4 with a lack of good ramp like Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and though you run a lot of good tutors, you have a clunky and expensive suite of combos, all of which have little synergy with your commander, and the rest of the deck. The list looks like a stax-combo hybrid, with a fair number of good hatebears and some good cards like Authority of the Consuls against kiki-combo, however you don't run tax effects like Sphere of Resistance, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Glowrider, Vryn Wingmare, Thorn of Amethyst along with a lack of good land destruction like Armageddon, Ravages of War, Cataclysm, etc. leaves your deck lacking as a stax build too.
Since you can't effectively race or stax a game out, with the abundance of lifegain cards and useless cards like Virtus the Veiled you have a deck without enough answers to be control either.
Here are some lists that are considered Tier 1, the most competitive, for reference:
2 weeks ago
I mean, I don't see how this is stax, I see some very good cards, like Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and Enlightened Tutor, but in terms of prison/stax, you only run about 6 cards: Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Ghostly Prison, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Aura of Silence, Blind Obedience, and Cataclysm.
I'd suggest you drop the cards like Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite for much more powerful stax cards. Also I'd think running some more tutors for Helm of the Host (the instant win) would be useful.
Other cards I'd suggest you run:
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - hurts storm builds and greedy manabases more than your deck.
Ruination - You run enough basics that a 3-4 colored deck will crumble.
Armageddon - Aurelia, the Warleader makes this thing basically a win, as you can probably beat face enough to kill one person before they rebuild, whilst rebuilding on your own. At that point with a couple more stax cards you might be able to drop your opponents all together. Use Ravages of War as well if you can afford one.
Crucible of Worlds - With a lot of land-destruction, or fetchlands, this card gives you constant land drops, allowing you to rebuild like nothing ever happened a few turns after an Armageddon or Cataclysm. Acts as a half Sun Titan in some cases. Strip Mine/Wasteland make it really good too.
World Queller - this card is godly. It can be used as land destruction every turn, and with a Sun Titan or Crucible of Worlds, you might not notice it's effect, but can name planeswalkers while you have none to get rid of a pesky Ugin/Karn/Nicol Bolas. It can of course remove pesky artifacts or enchantments, and still beat face a bit.
Trinisphere - This deck has a pretty high CMC, so this card might barely affect it. It will totally hurt the elf player, the storm player, and any other low-cmc player.
Aven Mindcensor - This doesn't affect you, but hurts your opponents fetch lands, tutors, or any other searches.
Luminarch Ascension - Acts as a powerful alternate win condition if you lock out you opponents.
Magus of the Moon - If you run enough basic lands, this card won't affect you very much, because of the artifact mana you have. Other decks may crumble to it.
Otherwise I'd only suggest you run some more rocks (Mox Diamond/Chrome Mox/Mana Crypt and all of the legal fetchlands like Windswept Heath, Marsh Flats, Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire, Wooded Foothills, Scalding Tarn)
Cards to drop for this stuff:
Argentum Armor, Extraplanar Lens, Loxodon Warhammer, Mask of Memory, Sword of War and Peace, Tenza, Godo's Maul, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Puresteel Paladin, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Balefire Liege, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Archangel of Tithes, Angelic Arbiter, 2-3 lands.
Otherwise, it terms of lands, drop Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion, Temple of the False God, Boros Garrison, Emeria, The Sky Ruin, Opal Palace, Rogue's Passage, Clifftop Retreat, and some basic mountains, add the remaining 6 fetchlands, and that should be about it!
1 month ago
Do you think a taxes deck might work? Maybe cards like Aura of Silence and Vryn Wingmare? I have seen these cards before and I just reminded myself as soon as I hit the send button on my last comment. Plus Aura of Silence takes care of sram. But that is if I get it out early game.
1 month ago
Seal Away Condemn Oust instead of Crib swap? Getting to 7 mana in modern is also pretty difficult, at least outside Tron.
While more expensive, Lightning Bolt is much, much better than Lightning Strike. Instead of Comet Storm Pyroclasm or Anger of the Gods is a better way to sweep away creatures without being as mana intensive. Ghostly Prison is also typically better than Windborn Muse, as most decks aiming to kill with creatures have removal, with the bonus of it coming down several turns earlier. 4 Baird, Steward of Argive is likely too many since you will wind up with copies stuck in hand.
Maindeck Curse of Exhaustion and Damping Sphere are strange. If you want a budget taxing option, Lodestone Golem is decent. Vryn Wingmare also can tax combo based decks such as Storm, as well as many decks playing few creatures.
I don't know how much this would win at a modern FNM but it seems somewhat similar to which is a fun deck, if you enjoy Blood Moon.
2 months ago
Aven Mindcensor, Hushwing Gryff, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Winter Orb, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Kinjalli's Sunwing, Vryn Wingmare, Mother of Runes, Ramunap Excavator, Aura of Silence, Sun Titan, Swords to Plowshares, Alms Collector, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist, Eladamri's Call, Tocatli Honor Guard, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Kataki, War's Wage, Propaganda, Ghostly Prison, Windborn Muse, Stasis, Static Orb, Glowrider, Rising Waters, Lodestone Golem, Damping Matrix, Cursed Totem, and Damping Sphere
The cards above are powerful stax pieces that are heavy play, yet range from 0.15$ to 5$ on tcgplayer. Below are more expensive cards that still are good for the deck, yet are not required.
Hokori, Dust Drinker, Rhystic Study, Sphere of Resistance, Thorn of Amethyst, Nature's Will, Bear Umbra, Sword of Feast and Famine, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Recruiter of the Guard, and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.
Other than these stag pieces (cards used to lock your opponents out of the game) the deck should ramp, have some good interaction, and have draw power too. It can then use a decent field of small creatures and some combat steps, or powering out planeswalker ultimates to win. Below are some ideas on how to do that.
4 months ago
So first things first, I think that Vryn Wingmare and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben are questionable additions, as you have 40 noncreature spells. However if you can reliably untap lands or cast spells while your opponents can't then more power to you.
Also, a blink undertone would be great for this deck.
Path to Exile auto white include
There is also this stax staple that you should NEVER exclude: Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Another One: Paradox Engine
Some other cards I would recommend are:
Willbreaker, you can consistently take your opponents threats
Solemn Simulacrum, a commander staple.
Venser, Shaper Savant, very good card overall for blue
Birthing Pod, oh baby
Reclamation Sage, auto green include
Thousand-Year Elixir, untap something you need (a mehhhh include but still worthy of note)