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- What counterspells counter Approach of the Second Sun
- Where does card:Approach of the Second Sun go if it's countered?
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Approach of the Second Sun
If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library sevent from the top and you gain 7 life.
Approach of the Second Sun Discussion
3 days ago
Sure. I'd use all of the cards you ordered besides Thalia's Lieutenant , which isn't great here since there aren't enough Humans in your deck to make good use of it and it's more suited for an aggro plan. You should have a playset of Inquisition, Lingering Souls , Martyr of Sands , Squadron Hawk , and 2 Day of Judgment in the main, with the other 2 Days of Judgment in the sideboard (assuming you got a playset of it). Cut 1 Dusk / Dawn , 2 Fumigate , 1 Ironwright's Cleansing , 3 Never / Return , 1 Decommission , 2 Gideon's Reproach , 1 Approach of the Second Sun , 1 Renewed Faith , 1 Restoration Gearsmith , 1 Aerial Responder , 2 Grasp of Darkness , 1 Authority of the Consuls , and 1 Murder to make room.
There are functional replacements for Path that you can use: Condemn and Oust . I'd replace the Fatal Push, Murder, and 2 Grasps of Darkness with a 2/2 split of those until you get Paths since you want as many white cards as possible for Martyr. You might also want to consider getting Thraben Inspector for some card draw, Ranger of Eos to get more Martyrs, and a couple Proclamation of Rebirth .
1 week ago
Hey, looks good, but you left out Approach of the Second Sun in the deck list, the main wincon you want to use?
Unfortunately, Approach with rebound doesn't work to win you the game. A rebounded Approach is being cast from exile not from your hand. Because you must cast Approach from your hand to win as long as you did cast Approach any other way at any other point in a game. The extra turns and draw spells are good with rebound to draw seven cards deep to find Approach.
Reconnaissance is good as a repeatable way to remove Taigam from combat. After he attacks getting the rebound trigger for your spells you can take him out of combat, protecting him. This is helpful because Taigam doesn't have evasion and he has to attack to get the rebound trigger for your spells. Mother of Runes and Giver of Runes are repeatable protection and can give Taigam evasion by giving him protection from a color of a creature who's blocking him in combat. These cards can also protect Monastery Mentor who is by far the best prowess creature. Consider cutting several of the lackluster prowess creatures for more two drop mana rocks and draw spells? Getting Taigam onto the battlefield faster with ramp does much more with instant and sorceries.
Cards to consider adding:
- Mother of Runes
- Giver of Runes
- Reliquary Tower : no max hand size is helpful when drawing cards.
- Adarkar Wastes
- Prairie Stream
- City of Brass
- Talisman of Progress
- Baral, Chief of Compliance
- Knight of the White Orchid : land ramp, can search for Fountain, Farmland, Stream or Plains and put one of them onto the battlefield.
- Mystical Tutor
- Mind Stone
- Mystic Remora : one of the best budget sources of repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander.
- Dig Through Time : excellent delve card in Commander, amazing with rebound.
- Preordain or Serum Visions
- Frantic Search
- Impulse or Fact or Fiction
- Aven Mindcensor : disrupt your opponents tutors making them less effective includes Fetch lands.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Cloudcrest Lake
- Azorius Guildgate
- Tranquil Cove
- Jeskai Elder
- Jeskai Sage
- Reliquary Monk
- Serene Master
- Stratus Dancer
- Student of Ojutai
- Wandering Champion
- Elusive Spellfist
- Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker
- Ojutai Exemplars
- Zephyr Scribe
- Enlightened Ascetic
- Forbidding Spirit
- Kami of False Hope
2 weeks ago
Rings of Brighthearth does not work with Narset, Enlightened Master , not sure if that’s why it’s there or if it’s for some other purpose. It seems like you’re right on target with most lists I’ve seen. I too am running a competitive Narset, Enlightened Master deck with Enter the Infinite + Omniscience combo into Approach of the Second Sun . Auriok Salvagers seems odd, what is it’s purpose?
3 weeks ago
I'm assuming you:
- don't want to combo out
- want to keep a small budget
- your primary wincon is Approach of the Second Sun
- your secondary wincon is Simic Ascendancy
- nothing from the last two sets
Route 1) Stength Draw with Worse Creature Tempo
Cut cards that are good tempo plays but otherwise don't help you win by drawing cards. The idea is that you draw into Approach of the Second Sun , cast it, and then trigger your draw abilities to be able to cast it again very quickly. I assume this deck isn't trying to be super competitive. I added a little recursion for toolbox, while still being group hug.
- Cloud of Faeries
- Icatian Moneychanger
- Horizon Chimera
- Safehold Elite
- Vernadi Shieldmate
- Serra's Blessing
- Slow Motion
- Sunken Field
- Ajani, the Greathearted
- Mind Games
- Dakra Mystic
- Nullmage Advocate
- Pulsemage Advocate
- Spurnmage Advocate
- Veteran Explorer
- Windreader Sphinx
- Lore Broker
- Temple Bell
- Woodvine Elemental
Side Note: I really don't like Sunscorch Regent but I get why he's in the deck as part of a wincon. I just feel Toothy, Imaginary Friend and Pir, Imaginative Rascal are very similar and provide much more to the deck in an obvious way, but they cost $8 as a pair so I didn't want to formally recommend them.
4 weeks ago
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Otherwise known as: The title above.
Note, don't worry about my status with Tetzimoc, or my ??? Vorthos Deck. Plus, I have been given a chance of a lifetime; Actually making a Sliver Tribal deck; but who to use? The First Sliver , or Sliver Overlord ? But, aside from those, these are what I want help for on their own;
(UPDATE: The Aminatou deck will be transferred from here, to another thread.)
Ol' Melek is back, & as of at least WAR, has some new toys of his own; but I dunno if they really are needed, Ral, Storm Conduit looks awesome, but I wonder if there is hope for that, or even the new stuff for Modern Horizons 1...
I hope this is some good help, if any, I've been working on these for either a while, & the original build long ago needs deleting, or the project just began.
Finally, as a last note; I still am looking for a good template of a x4 Command Zone, Graveyard, Exile Zone, Life Section, Deck Section, etc, that is Grand Prix legal, & Pro Tour (Or whatever it's called.) as a whole. I'd like some ideas while we're at all this.
Good Luck for all this, I'll fork the 5 bucks soon enough... ;p
Update: Mono-Green Deck canned, & I've revised Yidris; just in time for a really good Walker from Modern Horizons: Wrenn, plus Six More, & is all awesome.
Anyways, like I said, I'll put ol' Aminatou elsewhere...
One last thing: I finally have an idea for a Vorthos/Melvin deck of some kind. The problem is that even though it's NOT political (Even though I'm contemplating this as a Jeskai deck w/ Team America properties.), it is based on a very well made Documentary that many like except RottenTomatoes. Starring a female who inadvertently gets herself involved in the true nature of Men's Rights, This Doc is about the idea that Feminists, and Males as a whole use mere retaliation to defend their points, but the men interviewed actually stated some truly good points that result to why the men of our world die in the worst ways possible (One section of this Documentary mentions that in the most recent wars alone, no less than 90% of Male Soldiers die in each of them.). To be more fair for this idea, other references in regards to such a Documentary will also be added, & their source origin cited. Oh, & the Documentary is called "The Red Pill", which the name alone is an homage to THE MATRIX where Thomas Anderson takes the Red Pill; which Morpheus states when taken, Mr. Anderson would "Go deeper into the Rabbit Hole.". If this isn't allowed to be made, I actually recommend you watch "The Red Pill" to know more about the hell both sides take & retaliate against each other, Gender vs Gender. Or some TEDTalks by the Documentary maker herself Cassie Jaye. Oh, & the mention of Mass Male Suicides are also mentioned. It is a truly dark doc, but it's truly a work of genius, & I don't see a reason not to explore such a nightmare both sides go through. So, do you approve of this idea for a Vorthos Deck? How blunt can you be if you say no?
Another One Last Thing, I'm still working on cEDH Boros . I added another Rock , & a New Land , if the latter is needed, but should I ask around for more quick wincons? Boros seems relentless for this, but one in question still illudes me: how to make Helm of Obedience + Rest in Peace repeatable? Since that Helm doesn't need to be recast, I chose Clock of Omens , but I need a way to do infinite Acrivations; otherwise, It's Altar of the Brood + Ancestral Statue for me, & I'm trying to find a good tutor for creatures in here; but I also want to know is Eldrazi Displacer isn't worth using here?
UPDATE: Might actually run Rashmi, Eternities Crafter based on what shenanigans she can pull off via stuff like Wildest Dreams ; which is an X-Cost spell that exiles itself; but Rashmi can cast it over & over, as if the Exiled Status Doesn't matter; but how can she do this besides Riftsweeper effects? Rashmi has none of that... so how does those Rashmi, Eternities Crafter decks in cEDH work w/ cards in Exile? That all I'm asking about her; they seem to say zilch about this...
1 month ago
Glad to have given you the idea about Approach of the Second Sun !
1 month ago
McToters I don't think Reveille Squad works the way you want it to in this instance because the vehicles go back the being just artifacts at the end of the turn. It would allow allow me to defend with the dwarves that crewed the vehicles though. It's worth considering. The other two ideas are pretty good, hadn't even thought of Approach of the Second Sun in that context before. Thank you for your imput.
1 month ago
Not sure if win-cons are your thing but Approach of the Second Sun is neat with Depala’s ability to cycle. You can speed up the process of drawing it.
Approach of the Second Sun occurrence in decks from the last year
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