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- What counterspells counter Approach of the Second Sun
- Where does card:Approach of the Second Sun go if it's countered?
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Approach of the Second Sun
If Approach of the Second Sun was cast from your hand and you cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library sevent from the top and you gain 7 life.
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Approach of the Second Sun Discussion
1 day ago
Since you're going for an infinite mana combo, opponents will likely make efforts to prevent you from combo-ing off. Something like Heroic Intervention, Blossoming Defense, Vines of Vastwood, Faith's Shield, or Gods Willing seem like valuable additions.
2 days ago
That was the initial question. The answer is, if Approach of the Second Sun is resolving and it wasn't cast, wasn't cast from your hand, or wasn't the second time it was cast, it will gain you 7 life and go to it's owner's library.
If you cast an Approach of the Second Sun, then later you're opponent uses Mindclaw Shaman to cast your Approach of the Second Sun from your hand and you Aethersnatch it, that will let you win the game, but outside of a niche circumstance like that you're not going to win Aethersnatching an Approach of the Second Sun.
2 days ago
Well there was also the Approach of the Second Sun list if you recall I shared earlier that may be worth considering. It's a deck that would be easily upgradeable (although it can get pricey admittedly too if you start looking at things like Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, and Search for Azcanta Flip.
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Other than that though, I will need more time to think up more things that are possibly .
3 days ago
Approach of the Second Sun seems like a card that will pit everyone against you, so be careful if you do want to play it. You have two Test of Endurances, so maybe change one to a Blind Obedience. Congregate can sometimes gain you stupid amounts of life, and Ajani's Pridemate gets big fast, other than those it looks pretty fun.
3 days ago
Did you cast Approach of the Second Sun from your hand? No, it was cast from your opponent's hand. So you played correctly.
3 days ago
At a local edh the other day and the following happened.
We played it as I gain 7, and it went in his deck.
He said I should have won bc it was the second cast, and from his hand. I said no bc I haven't cast it at all...let alone from my hand.
5 days ago
If you're going competitive you should have All the best possible mana rocks and lands like I mentioned above. After that look into shifting the total CMC down. Anything more expensive than 3 CMC needs to have a very powerful effect.
Looking at your list I would remove every single 4+ drop if you're going this route.
As far as combos you're kind of limited in BW, the prices of these pieces are all over the place, some cheap, some prohibitively expensive:
Cast Angel's Grace or Teferi's Protection to make you immune to dying from life loss this turn, then cast Ad Nauseam to draw your deck, then cast Sickening Dreams, discarding the cards you just drew to ping everyone but yourself. This is best run in a deck with average CMC ~1.8 or lower in the case that you have to Ad Naus without Angels Grace. Support cards to consider: Glacial Chasm removes the damage you take from Sickening Dreams, and is a combo with the Urborg/Cabal Coffers package. Another support: Skirge Familiar can help you get there once you've Ad Naus'd.
OK this is some pretty spicy tech: You could run Doomsday, but that's could not should. Doomsday is best run in decks with access to Blue for Predict\Laboratory Maniac lines. Your lines would probably be something like: Doomsday -> Top of pile first: Street Wraith\Lions Eye Diamond\Conjurer's Bauble\Second Sunrise\Bitter Ordeal. Just google Doomsday lines.
OK, that was a lot! Hope this put you in the right direction.
5 days ago
Hey Loeffner, I have put together a few decklists for you here on tappedout, keeping in mind what you have said. I don't know how much more cheaper I can make some of these though without compromising their strategies, but I will leave that up to you to decide.
In fact this first one is the Second Sun Control challenger deck that Wizards put out for sale a few months ago, in fact I play a more expensive version of this deck in standard currently. It could be a good starting point.
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Here is another control deck except this one's a little different because the goal is to mill your opponent(s). It plays a lot of fog effects like Holy Day to stall attacks against you. I won't take credit for this one either as it's originally a budget magic deck posted by SaffronOlive over at mtggoldfish, however I have made numerous changes to the deck that have made it closer to your price range. (Note there's a number of cards that I left to the side as potential changes you could make to the list).
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Next is another mill deck, but this one is different again by playing bounce spells like Engulf the Shore, Blink of an Eye etc alongside again Sphinx's Tutelage (It's cheaper than the above list even after the cuts, but I don't think it would fair as well against aggressive decks tbh). I use to play a casual standard deck like this one once in standard, but if I recall I had a few other things in the deck such as Thing in the Ice Flip and Manic Scribe?
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All of this I put together in the span of like 30 minutes and they lack sideboards atm. They all could maybe use some more changes, but I think they are a decent start to what you maybe had in mind. I think if any, you should go for either the Approach of the Second Sun challenger deck or the turbo fog deck listed above out of all of these and you can make more changes as you see fit from there. I hope some of this is of use anyways!