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- Boros Charm deals 4 damage to target player.
- Permanents you control are indestructible this turn.
- Target creature gains double strike until end of turn.
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Boros Charm Discussion
1 day ago
alright so here are a few options, i will go through this by card type.
Creatures - so you have two ways to go here. if you want to be aggressive you want 4Snapcaster Mage 4Spell Queller and 3 Geist of Saint Traft. or if you want to go slow and fight mostly with none-creature spells just 4Snapcaster Mage is fine.
Land- so again this changes with how aggressive you want to be. if you want to be aggressive don't change your lands are fine, if you want to go longer and more controlling up the count to 25 by adding 2 Field of Ruin and switch 1 Hallowed Fountain for another Celestial Colonnade.
what to add? so you always want 4 Path to Exile and 4 Lightning Bolt. next add 4 Cryptic Command this is the best card you can have in control it does everything, if its out of your budget range try Ojutai's Command. you want some board wipes if you going for the more controlling rout 2 Supreme Verdict and a Settle the Wreckage or Wrath of God is good. you also want 2-4 Electrolyze depending on how many small creature decks you play against. if people are playing bigger creatures go with 1-2Condemn. you also want 2-3 Mana Leak and 2-3 Logic Knot along with a Negate. lastly if you want some card draw go with some Think Twice.
planes-walkers - if your going aggressive you don't want any planeswalkers. if your going more controlling 2-3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor or if you budget doesn't have room for this try 1Ajani Vengeant 1Gideon Jura and 1Nahiri, the Harbinger.
I think that about sums it up, if you have more questions please ask!
3 days ago
Its either including Bloodbraid Elf or its burn.
(If you really want to stretch the metaphor and include "red deck wins" variants in "burn" then your statement may be true)
Burn only plays its 1 cmc hasty creatures because it can reasonably expect that they do 4 damage (aka. Boros Charm) before something stonewalls them.
Burn doesn't want to spend its burn spells to clear te way for its creature.
BBE needs you to have a clear board (since 3/2 are not exactly powerhouses in the format at the moment), as it comes down on turn 4 (at the same time (or later) as Thought-Knot Seer and the like.
If you can't attack with BBE its a 4 mana cascade spell, that does nothing else.
Which is pretty bad - since at best you can cast a 3 mana spell for 4 mana.
4 days ago
Thanks for the suggestion 13loodknight. Chandra's Phoenix is not only a good replacement, but it is also a very cheap card. FIZZBOG, wouldn't I need to use Boros Charm on Boros Reckoner and then target him with Volcano Hellion or Blasphemous Act? I could also give him Lifelink, just to make it fun. I might have to play around with that combo. Many have suggested it before, I have just been unwilling to buy all of the cards and change the deck until now. I'm kinda getting bored with the current deck.
5 days ago
APPLE01DOJ - I don't know. Yesterday, I could have written you an essay; today, I'm facing down Jace, the Mind Sculptor. I know nothing until further testing. I have rushed to bring back two copies of Liliana of the Veil to the list since the unbans, a card I had eschewed very quickly in my original construction of the deck, since it hardly favours the player drawing an extra card a turn; however, with the advent of Bloodbraid Elf and Jace TMS, opponents are now likely to be able to keep up with the CA of Phyrexian Arena, and as such, Liliana of the Veil is likely to be good again (even if the format is being overrun by lots of Bloodghast, Hollow One, and Faithless Looting).
However, I can offer a breakdown of how the creatures function in non-blue matchups:
a. Pack Rat:
The deck started with the set of Pack Rat. But that all in-strategy was soon found to be suboptimal - drawing multiple Pack Rats was unnecessary and rarely served any purpose; not to mention the speed of Modern means turn 2 Pack Rat is often too slow. As sweepers, Detention Sphere, and Maelstrom Pulse became common, and as Hollow One and Death's Shadow and Tasigur, the Golden Fang started to surface, Pack Rat lost some of its luster.
The natural question, then, if Pack Rat is slow and vulnerable, why play him at all? The answer: Pack Rat is ten cards in one card. Backed up with any kind of disruption and removal, he takes over the board and ends the game, quickly and unstoppably. Two activations are more than enough to put away games, and trading spot removal for Rats is a losing proposition. So in this list, he's gone from being a windmill early slam, to a lategame engine that turns dead land drops and discard spells into an army of creatures. Barring Path to Exile before a single activation is possible, Liliana, the Last Hope can always buy him back - one copy of the Rat, therefore, is ample.
I've covered the virtues of this card in a post above - essentially, he's my Tarmogoyf, but he flies. Whether he functions as The Abyss or as a 6/6 unblockable, he ends games very quickly, and many a game against combo/Tron has been put away by disruption into disruption into Demon. Of the quick clocks available to black, he's one of the better ones. I believe the added utility to be well worth the extra two mana over Goyf (besides, far be it from me to argue against 6 6 fliers for four - speaking of which, Demon is almost always a strictly superior option to Abyssal Persecutor, since Persecutor requiring us to find an additional kill spell for our own demon while Phyrexian Arena ticks down/the burn opponent is topdecking is not a good feeling).
I cannot praise this card enough in any mono black midrange list. He exiles creatures, he gains life consistently, and he makes every removal spell in our deck a 2 for 1. Traditionally, efficient mono black removal has been weak to graveyard recursion such as Flamewake Phoenix, Bloodghast, Geralf's Messenger, Kitchen Finks, and so forth, since all these cards must be killed more than once, at no additional expense to the opponent. Thoughtseize and Phyrexian Arena is a painful combination, especially in a world of Lightning Bolt and Kolaghan's Command. Kalitas solves all of these issues beautifully, and with any removal spell stalls the board incredibly easily and well.
Okay, have you seen the art? If Drana were real, she'd totally be my Valentine.
Jokes aside, one of the issues I was frequently running into with the deck was the amount of time it took me to close out once I had stabilised. While all of my creature threats (Gray Merchant of Asphodel is basically a Corrupt, he doesn't count) end the game quite quickly, I just wasn't drawing them fast enough - my opponent would get the opportunity to find that Cryptic Command or Sphinx's Revelation, or get those last 2 Boros Charm. There is a delicate balance between disruption and pressure that must be maintained in all decks that are not pure control, and maintaining that balance required me to find another fast game-ending threat.
I considered running the fourth Desecration Demon, but the idea of another big dumb beater was not appealing. I wanted a powerful threat with intrinsic value attached to its kit, that could help deal with the board even when I was not drawing multiple cards a turn, and hopefully one that was either resilient, or dodged some of the common removal in the format (Lightning Bolt, Abrupt Decay, Fatal Push - although I was open to playing four drops, since consistently having revolt to deal with a whole myriad of four drop threats is difficult). While black has plenty of value three drops, none of them offered this game ending power, or were too easily killed - Nightveil Specter and Lifebane Zombie, for instance, offer great card advantage in specific situations, but don't really pack the same punch as something like a Desecration Demon or Pack Rat army.
Finally, I settled on Drana. There are a lot of powerful five drops in black with value built in (Bloodgift Demon, for instance), but Drana does something none of the others do - she kills things, turn after turn, while being able to attack in the air for huge chunks. In a meta with Lingering Souls, Dark Confidant and Young Pyromancer, Drana seemed like an elegant solution, and so far, she has far exceeded my expectations. I do not think I should consider running multiples of her, since she is quite expensive and can be killed for no value the turn she comes into play, but untapping with her can feel a bit like untapping after a Supreme Verdict to an empty board.
No Geralf's Messenger, no Phyrexian Obliterator; only 2 Gray Merchant. I do not believe the all in devotion plan is likely to ever become Modern competitive, for sheer want of interactive capability and card advantage - if you are playing a midrange list in Modern, you need lots of early interaction in the form of hand disruption and removal, a proactive plan to end the game with efficient threats, and ways to pull ahead on cards after both players have been stripped down to limited resources. Gray Merchant is an extremely powerful card, as good as or better than Siege Rhino if it drains for upwards of five; it swings races, it ends games, it doesn't care about board stalls, and for all intents and purposes is basically a Modern legal Tendrils of Corruption (not my quote - blame LSV. Then again, that man also calls Disciple of Phenax Mind Twist, so take these statements with several grains of salt).
But despite his inherent power level, Gray Merchant of Asphodel is a very high variance card, and can sometimes be Highway Robber. Removal in Modern is aplenty, and curving out into enough devotion for Gray Merchant to be good is not a reliable plan. Even when the traditional mono black lists do manage to implement their plan - Geralf's Messenger into Gray Merchant, for instance, after having gotten two or more of their creatures removed, despite being an overall drain for seven to nine, just lacks the power/speed to push through opposing Tarmogoyf, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Grim Flayer, Death's Shadow - not to mention blue decks with their Cryptic Command and board sweepers and Sphinx's Revelation.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel in my list is therefore a card I'll often be discarding to the various discard outlets in the early game; using either the second copy or Liliana, the Last Hope's minus two to drain the opponent out if necessary later on. His being a zombie means he can be sacrificed to Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet either to simply grow the great vampire, or to be recursed with Liliana, as the situation calls.
I do not think running more than two of the card is likely to be feasible for Modern given the uncertainty of whether Merchant will be Corrupt or Highway Robber, and also given Merchant's relatively high mana cost; while it is possible that one is the correct number (and indeed, often in post board games, I do go down to one or no Merchant) at least in game 1, the proactive plan of discard, kill, kill, flier, smack, Merchant win is a very strong one. Having access to the second copy in case the first gets exiled and therefore cannot be returned with a future Liliana is also quite relevant against decks with Path to Exile and Pyxis of Pandemonium.
Despite Merchant's variance, I believe his power level and his ability to end the game on the spot through cards like Ensnaring Bridge and Witchbane Orb is not to be undervalued. In a deck with Phyrexian Arena and Ob Nixilis Reignited, every life point represents an extra card; while Highway Robber may be terrible, a five mana 2 4 that draws 4 cards on etb and drains the opponent for four is an absolutely phenomenal Magic card.
I would also like to point out the maindeck inclusion of incidental lifegain like Collective Brutality and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet in conjunction with Gary makes most burn and aggro matchups extremely favourable.
While the creature suite has been carefully picked, and is constantly being chosen and rechosen and tweaked, the engine that enables this deck is Phyrexian Arena. Any interactive deck with reactive spells always runs the risk of its reactive measures not lining up well against the threats being deployed on the other side; Arena churning through the deck presents the critical mass of answers and threats to overwhelm the opponent, ensures land drops are made, and essentially in every regard dots the deck's i's and crosses its t's. With discard outlets like Collective Brutality and Liliana of the Veil to trade potentially dead cards for relevant spells early on, irksome draws with too many high cmc cards can still function smoothly and well.
1 week ago
I have a couple decks that either use or abuse Sunforger, which I will get around to posting someday. In them, I always include Dawn Charm and Boros Charm. Between those 2 cards you have 6 effects that can derail your opponents when played at the right moment. Ignore Wrath effects with indestructibility, Holy Day and attack, counter a Fireball aimed at your head, regenerate your best creature or surprise Double Strike. Dawn Charm is a card I always pick up, and I have pages in my binder full of them and use it in almost any deck that I play White in.
1 week ago
Hi! Love Boros!
Aurelia, the Warleader, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Sun Titan, Balefire Liege, Hero of Bladehold, Combat Celebrant, Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite are all some powerful creatures you could throw in to make combat more exciting.
Hope some of this helps!
1 week ago
1 week ago
More dinosaurs would make Gishath's trigger more consistent, even though Burning Sun's Avatar Flip and Verdant Sun's Avatar are underwhelming compared to other dinos such as the mono-color legends. Try cutting back on some of your combat tricks - they're dead cards without dinos. Just focus on a few with multiple uses like Boros Charm for double strike Gishath or indestructible creatures.
Definitely keep between 8-10 ramp cards though. Getting Gishath out turn 5 and swinging into an empty board feels great.