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13 hours ago
Sweet changes that already won me a 3-player game!
More discard (anti-control) with Oppression, which works so well in this deck because you're spells have powerful effects, so the cost of discarding a card is payable (relative to the effect). For example, under Oppression, you can cast an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and discard a card, but a green player just can't ramp through it. Who's going to play Rampant Growth to fetch a basic land and discard a card? So this card doesn't hurt you much but destroys other decks. Some decks, such as graveyard decks, can actually benefit from it, so obviously you should decide if it's a good idea to cast it.
On another note, this deck needs to play a fast game and finish players off, and Maga, Traitor to Mortals is a fantastic finisher. I just cast a Maga for 11 life loss last night to win a game. Sower of Discord has a higher ceiling, of course, but takes more turns, and turns isn't something you want to give up in this deck.
One more thought about Sower of Discord... note that it mirrors damage done to player A as life loss to player B. So one situation that would be sweet to set up just isn't possible with Sower: mirror your own life loss from draw spells and other downward spiral effects to another player. Bummer. But should they make that card in the future, it would be ridiculous in this deck. And if they already made that card, please let me know!
5 days ago
I am just going to start off by saying that Muldrotha excels are enabling weird combos or recurring value plays. It also seems like you are playing a fairly cheaper deck so I won't bother with all the lands you could put in and other super expensive stuff.
One of the things you are missing are
1cmc: Caustic Caterpillar Elephant Grass any one cmc mana dorks Nature's Claim Carrion Feeder Skullclamp Unbridled Growth Nihil Spellbomb Pithing Needle All of the one cmc tutors such as Entomb Crop Rotation
4cmc: Null Brooch
now what to take out and why... In general I play in a faster meta where many of your creatures aren't able to even be played before the game ends
Cut: everything that is 5 cmc and above and every planeswalker except Shriekmaw Mulldrifter Deadeye Navigator this is because these card are simply not impactful enough and there are better alternatives around...
and here is just some fairly "bad" cards in your deck 4 cmc or less: World Shaper Vizier of the Menagerie Solemn Simulacrum Sidisi, Brood Tyrant Hostage Taker Dreamborn Muse Baleful Strix Nevinyrral's Disk Control Magic Reliquary Tower
you might even want to consider taking out Sol Ring but i guess it helps you play muldrotha
anyways good luck to you
4 weeks ago
Mine has moved from zombies to a more hand control build via Oppression and cards like it. My next goal is to reintroduce zombies to the deck. I like your card choices.
1 month ago
Darkshadow327 while I agree many decks that don't run Painful Quandary should, it is generally worse than a card like Oppression or Bottomless Pit, yes, those are symmetrical, and affect you, but you know you run those types of effects, so you can run more cards like Dark Confidant, Phyrexian Arena, Dark Tutelage, and other ways of drawing extra cards to compensate. Also, with Oppression no player that is trying to win the game that turn and will just take 15 from the three cards that they need to drop to win the game can do that, you have to discard cards if you have them in hand, and random discard is so great against combo lists, so Bottomless Pit is an incredible stax card too. I'd say Painful Quandary is simply cute, not nearly as powerful.
1 month ago
Hey! Thanks for the mention. I'll do my best.
An interesting mix of casual, competitive, and vorthos. Not sure how it's gonna work for ya but seem fun!
I'll start with 15 cuts for you:
- Dack Fayden - Yeah he's got some draw and some steal, but your deck isn't really equipped to take advantage of his ultimate, meaning he'll always be sub-optimal.
- Liliana Vess - Not a huge fan of single target discard. It'd probably be better just to run a tutor(as that's what I'd end up using her for)
- Disrupt Decorum - as much as I love this card, it seems like this deck wants to discard/counter/kill/steal your opponents creatures, so this won't do much I'd imagine
- Entreat the Dead - I think you have enough recursion so cut the weakest IMO
- Last One Standing - Vorthos decision. The randomness doesn't sound like Bolas ;)
- Thoughtseize - Again, not a fan. Who do you know who to target? What if one of the other 4 players has a god-hand and you choose wrong?
- Oppression - Doesn't this kinda hurt you a lot? Meta call. Who casts the most spells every game? Who are yuo trying to hurt the most with this card?
- Mind's Dilation - At 7 mana, this card is a 'value engine' when i like my 7 mana stuff to be 'game winners'
- Painful Quandary - Your opponent will choose what is best for them and thus this card will have little effect for the 5 cmc cost.
- Stranglehold - Meta call. How big are tutors in your meta? Extra turns? How much will this really hurt your opponents?
- The Eldest Reborn - Also not a huge fan of the sagas. Inflexible. Uncontrollable. Some one could easily hate out the graveyards in response to chapter III.
- Worldgorger Dragon - Maybe there is a combo I'm missing here...
- Gem of Becoming - Very vorthos but not very good.
- Library of Leng getting rid of the discard that hurts you also leaves this obsolete.
- Arcane Denial - I really dislike this card personally.
Those are my thoughts on cuts, sorry if I've stepped on some toes-been out of the game for too long!
I'll be back with more help if you need it! In the mean time, if you want to return the favor and check out my newest brew, I Will Survive | Varchild EDH, I'd appreciate it!
1 month ago
it's a bit ironic to assemble the Avengers (aka The Gatewatch) to help to construct a Bolas-deck, but nevertheless here are my ideas:
First of all, I would discard :) the whole Nekusar-wheel-theme. Nekusar, the Mindrazer decks just do it better anyways and playing Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul, Jace's Archivist or Windfall in your deck has some drawbacks. While they're great to enable your plan of using the opponents' graveyards, your decks' cmc is not low enough to exploit those cards. Additionally, your opponents would get a significant amount of cards out of it, too, which also undermines the whole handcontrol theme of your deck: What's the matter of making them discard through Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip, when you're helping them to refill their hands the next turn? Cards like Megrim, Liliana's Caress or Fell Specter would have to go as well because they're only effective with the aforementioned cards.
So my proposal is to focus on discard and control. Cards like Painful Quandary, The Eldest Reborn, Waste Not, Oppression and Chains of Mephistopheles fit well and should stay. You could add Skull Rend or Liliana's Specter. You could also add cards that let your commander re-enter the battlefield like Ghostly Flicker. Some ninjas like Silent-Blade Oni or Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni do not only fit your theme but let you cast your commander again.
You have to strengthen your control over the graveyards when you're making people discard. The Scarab God is already good here. But you need some more graveyard-hate like Relic of Progenitus or Phyrexian Furnace which give you a bit of a choice what to exile. Don't play Leyline of the Void in here.
So far I mentioned 8 cards which should be cut, so here are 22 more: Kess, Dissident Mage, Nightveil Specter, Mind's Dilation, Omniscience, Torment of Hailfire, Disrupt Decorum, Entreat the Dead, Anvil of Bogardan, Go for the Throat, Blasphemous Act, Stunning Reversal, Thrilling Encore, Leyline of Anticipation (most of the permanents don't have to be played at instant speed. Casting leyline is just doing nothing for the turn), Bloodchief Ascension, Countersquall, Desertion, Preordain, Thoughtseize, Library of Leng, Disciple of Bolas, Hour of Devastation, Tormenting Voice.
That's all for now. Good luck with your deck!