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Lion's Eye Diamond
Sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond, Discard your hand: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Play this ability only any time you could play an instant.
Lion's Eye Diamond Discussion
19 hours ago
Ohhh yeah. Also, just another "Construct" for Scrapyard Recombiner (though it is not currently in my list). So, Salvager of Ruins makes for an excellent Apostle. Hell, maybe even the best Apostle this list could have received. It will replace Restoration Specialist , as she only fulfilled a niche role in the list. Either Ranger-Captain of Eos of Recruiter of the Guard can hunt down our Salvage Scout , should the Lion's Eye Diamond line be made available. It's important to note two things in concerns to Salvager of Ruins: 1. It can go off without a Sacrifice outlet; 2. The Answers/Rewards we use must have been removed from the Battlefield -> Graveyard that same turn, so it's a bit trickier to set up, however... It is an auto-include for it's massive potential, as it returns any permanent. It isn't only a recurring combo piece, it's protection. I absolutely love it.
6 days ago
More fast rocks i suggest you could use:
- Mox Amber your Commmander is CMC1 so, much likely to be out most of the time.
- Mox Opal getting Metalcraft going seems high likely here.
1 week ago
As you've probably seen these cards are almost all also featured in my Tariel deck. Thing is, depending on budget, you can improve further. There's always the more expensive rocks -> Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , Lion's Eye Diamond aso.. or the expensive Tutors Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor aso..
Thinking about mono-b, Cabal Coffers came also to mind, plus it's searchable with Expedition Map . But even a better choice for you'd be Magus of the Coffers , since he's also a creature. Reanimating him with Whisper EoT gives him pseudo-haste, which is also nice.
3 weeks ago
How often do you find yourself holding more than a maximum hand size? My guess is you'd want to run with a small hand, to take advantage of Neheb's buffing mechanic. With that in mind, I think I'd cut Spellbook . You could keep Library of Leng , as it has that ability to let you discard to the top of your library if you want to. With that in mind, you should consider some cards that will help you to keep your hand size down if you need to. Skirge Familiar allows you to discard cards to ramp, Neheb, Dreadhorde General might be helpful, too. Bog Witch allows you to discard a card in exchange for Dark Ritual , and if you happen to have a copy lying around, Lion's Eye Diamond is good for that, too.
3 weeks ago
I think it's worth pointing out that you need 2 creatures with undying on the board at the same time with at least 1 of them not having a +1/+1 counter on it for this combo to work (or, as you said, 1 Undying creature with Nest of Scarabs). Just worth explaining the combo somewhere in your primer so people understand how the combo works, imo.
Beyond that, I don't see many definitive wincons once you draw your whole deck. A Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthroat makes the most sense as you have a sacrifice loop, but it's complicated by the fact you must draw a card with Yawgmoth's ability so you're limited by the size of your library. Some kind of a discard outlet to allow you to keep discarding Kozilek to shuffle the yard into your library would allow this to be a definitive loop. If this was why you included Awaken the Erstwhile , note that this will not work as the trigger to shuffle your graveyard resolves before Awaken the Erstwhile finishes resolving (I would suggest getting rid of this unless there's an interaction I'm missing). Some discard outlets I would recommend:
- Sadistic Hypnotist - Though limited to sorcery speed and needing a creature to sacrifice, you're bound to have small creatures and tokens to sacrifice and this can be used equally well against opponents while you're grinding out the game.
- Putrid Imp - One of the cheapest repeatable discard outlets you can find. Probably my top pick.
- Olivia's Dragoon - More expensive than the Imp, but still repeatable at instant speed.
Though I know you're not including it for budget reasons, Lion's Eye Diamond is quite possibly the best discard outlet you can run as it also allows you to create infinite mana through this loop allowing for a huge Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire (which, by the way, I would also suggest adding somehwere). I'm not expecting you to add LED, just felt I should mention it for others hoping to make a spin on this!
If you want to push this into being more cEDH, I would swap out some of your mediocre cards (e.g. Weaponcraft Enthusiast , Sengir Autocrat , Big Game Hunter , Awaken the Erstwhile ) for some of the following:
- Any of the discard outlets I talked about above.
- More instant speed removal (e.g. Snuff Out , Devour in Shadow , Go for the Throat , Smother ) since that is pretty much the extent of your interaction in mono Black and you'll probably need it against faster decks.
- Entomb and Buried Alive with your existing reanimation package (plus maybe Animate Dead ) to be able to cheat creatures like Mikaeus, the Unhallowed onto the board.
- More fast mana (i.e. Chrome Mox , maybe Mana Vault , Mana Crypt if you disregard budget).
I like the idea for this, though, and hope you enjoy the deck!
3 weeks ago
The Auriok Salvagers creates infinite mana of any color with Lion's Eye Diamond
Thank you for the Rings info!! For some reason I thought it would work with Narset.
1 month ago
Breya is always an interesting deck. I personally like the infinite-mana options; repeatedly casting Breya, then sac-ing her and one of the thopters to bolt an opponent results in game over immediately. I see three ways that are easiest to achieve that goal.
Second, reanimated dragon combo: Worldgorger Dragon with Animate Dead , Necromancy , Dance of the Dead , or any other reanimating enchantment. The Worldgorger (which is reanimated from the yard) trigger exiles the reanimation enchantment, which lets it die, which returns the enchantment, which brings back the dragon... tapping all your lands/mana rocks for mana when they flicker in results in infinite mana. You really need another creature to target to end the loop, but it isn't too difficult to make sure this is the case.
Note that combos 1 and 2 accommodate Entomb effects as a tutor. So if you want to run those combos, Entomb , Buried Alive and/or Faithless Looting and the like are your friends. Note also that 1 and 2 generate infinite ETB triggers. Pairing them with Altar of the Brood allows you to win even if your commander has been countered or removed to oblivion. Furthermore, running Sculpting Steel or Phyrexian Metamorph to copy Sharuum the Hegemon creates a loop where you sac one to the legend rule and then bring back either the original or copying artifact. That also generates infinite ETB triggers, and is a pet combo of mine.
I strongly advise tutors outside the transmute ones. Demonic Tutor , Vampiric Tutor , Imperial Seal , Enlightened Tutor , Reshape , Whir of Invention , Gamble and Transmute Artifact are all in your colors (though some are more easily obtained than others). These will increase your deck's consistency, regardless of whether you decide to use the combo-build.
Depending on your deck's budget, you might want to consider your mana base as a work-in-progress. Slow Fetches like Rocky Tar Pit and Flood Plain are well under a dollar, and work well enough as a replacement for Bloodstained Mire or Flooded Strand . Mana Confluence and City of Brass are also powerhouses in a 4-color deck. You should at least consider Forbidden Orchard .
Ramp is important in any EDH deck. Mind Stone is a good addition, along with Ancient Tomb . I typically don't care for 3-mana rocks, but Chromatic Lantern is good in 4- or 5-color decks. Izzet Signet is a good idea in addition to the other two signets you're running. Non-blue ones aren't nearly as good, but if you really need another, I advise Orzhov Signet over Boros Signet or Rakdos Signet . Sculpting Steel and Phyrexian Metamorph are good ways to copy opponents' rocks as well as your own, or even creatures in the case of the metamorph. Copy Artifact is another option.
Because you're in black, you have access to some real good card draw. Phyrexian Arena and Staff of Nin are good as permanent sources of card-advantage. Ambition's Cost , Ancient Craving , Painful Truths and Chart a Course are all good ways to draw cards as well.
Good luck with deck building.
1 month ago
Thanks for checking out the primer.
As for your questions, let's address them separately.
A. "...since I can't afford timetwister and imperial seal, and am running underground river and mausoleum secrets as a replacement so far. Any other considerations that could do the job?"
<-- Twister and Imperial Seal are very powerful cards in their own right. The good news is that you can kind of get away with Mausoleum Secrets in place of Imperial Seal, but do be warned your Ad Nauseam may hurt you a little more due to the higher CMC.
Unfortunately, there's only 11 direct tutor cards in black (like Demonic Tutor) that are CMC 3 and less. And for that reason alone, they are that much sought after. Some of them are expensive, pricing over the $100 mark. (Imperial Seal and Grim Tutor are the big ones.) Imperial Seal does have a judge promo that's cheaper than the original, but that's still over $100.
As for Timetwister? That's where the problem comes in. There's no direct substitute for Twister other than maybe Day's Undoing on the outside end, and even then, I personally wouldn't run that as it both ends your turn and exiles itself upon resolution. You may have to run another cheap cantrip, like Windfall or Gush in the meantime, otherwise, I'd proxy Twister if your group allows for that.
B. "Also I'm fairly new to Doomsday in general and really only know how to crack a pile with variations of gush or night's whisper, which you don't have. What's your common line that you look for? I've had to cut it for now because I cant wrap my head around it."
--> Luckily, we have access to The Doomsday Primer to help us walk through your question here. Here's the URL for that primer:
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As for what this deck does with "DD", we have included one of many lines related to DD in the primer itself.
Here is our example from the primer...
Pile Cracker: Ponder
Yawgmoth's Will (modifier)
Play Ponder, pay . Draw Frantic Search.
Play Frantic Search, pay 2U, draw G./Probe and L.E.D.; dump 2 cards, untap 3 lands. (Free!)
Play L.E.D., then G. Probe, paying 2 life. On casting Git Gud Probe, Hold Priority and crack L.E.D. for Triple Black. Draw Yawgmoth's Will. (BBB in pool floating.)
Play YawgWin with Triple Black floating. Next, play L.E.D. from the yard.
Play Git Gud Probe, paying 2 life again. When you play G. Probe, Hold Priority Again, and then crack L.E.D. again, this time for Triple Blue. Draw Laboratory Maniac. (UUU floating in pool.)
Cast Laboratory Maniac from the Triple Blue off of L.E.D. (Zero mana in pool.)
Finally cast Ponder from the yard to win, spending one more , with Frantic Search in the yard for backup.
Total cost, post Doomsday:
2 blue, 4 life.
Hope that answers your questions.
Lion's Eye Diamond occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.46%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%