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Lion's Eye Diamond
Sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond, Discard your hand: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Play this ability only any time you could play an instant.
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Lion's Eye Diamond Discussion
1 day ago
Nice list. Tolaria West has proven to be a very good card in my Muldrotha deck. It can fetch Lion's Eye Diamond or any land you need. Lands like Command Beacon are also really nice. Beacon makes sure you don’t have to deal with commander tax. Mindslicer is a nice way to deal with combo decks and Aura Thief can steal enemy enchantments or theros gods. Why just destroy them when you can turn them against their owners :-)
1 week ago
waterbottlessuck - I mean, I wouldn't exactly call this deck a budget list...but Black Lotus is both well outside of my actual price range, and it's banned in Commander. Lion's Eye Diamond is the closest we'll ever see to a format-legal Black Lotus, and that card is already in my deck as part of the Doomsday package. If Doomsday goes, so will LED.
2 weeks ago
smlvalentine1: So, I’ve built a deck similar to yours on Xmage to try it out. I’m still on the Altar of the Brood lines of play, with DramaticScepterReservoir as a backup. I like your list a lot, and it seems a lot tighter and more fluid than mine. I do have some questions for you:
1) With the Stratagem at EOT play, what plays do you go with on your turn to win after you’ve drawn your deck? Do you go with Ghostly Flicker win for the most part? Do you go for this win with only the eight mana required to start, or would it be better to have more mana available to make your winning plays?
2) Is Lion's Eye Diamond mainly used as free mana to accelerate comboing off, or is there another purpose for it?
2 weeks ago
Arcan1s_666, that's a very good question. I'm honestly not sure - I have something of a mental loop where I try to think about what to replace, and then I just go back to "But the Invocation Doomsday looks so pretty and flavorful!"
But honestly it would likely be more interaction first and foremost. Maybe more draw that doesn't rely on discard.
The full Doomsday package is: Doomsday, Laboratory Maniac, Lion's Eye Diamond, Gitaxian Probe, Gush, Deep Analysis and Yawgmoth's Will. Yawgwin is too good to remove on its own, so that stays regardless (even though the foil is going to cost me...). Gush is also pretty great. So is Deep Analysis. So we really only have ~4 cards to play with.
My Maybeboard is pretty filled with ideas. The biggest weakness of the deck right now is lack of creature defenses. I have some, but not a lot. Evacuation would be a great include - I would get to re-cast Bolas, and most of my opponents get hosed worse just because I'm so creature-light. And it's instant speed, which is always a bonus. Warped Devotion and Words of Wind would be interesting. Devotion hits me too, though, so it's still iffy. I keep wanting to run it (I already own a couple foils, it's cheap), but I need to have a good density of bounce and some way to make sure I'm not suffering worse. I suppose I'm not running a ton of permanents and that might be helpful. Archfiend of Depravity might be nice too, to help keep the enemy creature count low.
Of course, a different combo would also be possible. Worldgorger Dragon, likely with Flash as an enabler, works with Animate Dead and ETB-untapped lands to generate infinite mana. As long as you can stop the loop (usually by reanimating something else), you can make infinite mana for a Torment of Hailfire win. It's compact, uses mostly cards that are not dead outside of the combo, but it's also pretty risky and vulnerable to interaction - it generates mana for opponents too if they have ETB-untapped lands.
Lastly, I could just add a few more tutors. Getting Geth's Grimoire or Waste Not on the field is pretty important to the rest of the deck. Tutors help with that, and with finding the win condition when it's time.
Those are my current thoughts, anyway.
2 weeks ago
Have you ever thought about using Lion's Eye Diamond in conjunction with Auriok Salvagers? It is a two card combo that can win on the spot with Breya as your outlet. I see that the list is not budget, so some card suggestions that may help might be:
Aside from that it looks like you are super heavy into an artifact combo synergy, you can try add in a Scrap Mastery since you are running KCI. You can also go infinite with that if you add in a Codex Shredder letting you net infinite colorless mana if you have artifacts that produce , and infinite mana if you have artifacts that produce the double red and any additional one.
Hope that gives a new perspective, and feel free if you have any questions! Always glad to help :p
2 weeks ago
have you thought about Foil counterspell that can be cast for free and allows you to discard cards
Lion's Eye Diamond would seem good if you can afford it
2 weeks ago
if affordable I would assume Lion's Eye Diamond is really good with madness