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Thought Vessel Discussion
1 day ago
Hey Getupkid1284 Thank you for your suggestions, yes I sometimes had some problems with Necro's exile clause, usually when necro is out I can still rely on cards like Intuition and Entomb to proceed a reanimator game plan, besides when I have a good reanimator play I will fetch Attunement instead of Necro either to find reanimates or (mostly) as discard outlet, so those plans (most likely) won't affect each other in any bad way, when I'm going for necro then I'm most of the times going full necro with Reliquary Tower or Thought Vessel trying a kill with Empyrial Armor next turn and not aiming to make any grave plays.
Because Imprisoned in the Moon leaves the opponent's commander locked in the game in the form of a land instead of exiling it (that would lead to the opponent being able to choose to carry it to the command zone as a replacement effect), he remains there so he cannot be recasted from the command zone, but useless and unable even to be sacrificed for Sac outlets making Imprisoned in the Moon a way more effective at removing enemy's commanders.
Also Oblivion Ring and Detention Sphere have an ETB clause that makes then unable to target Shrouded and Hexproffed creatures, while Imprisioned (because its an aura) bypasses those protections when fetched by Zur, (as Zur puts auras directly in the game he skips their target clauses, but not ETB effects on the enchantments that may have targets)
I think you are right about Urborg, I removed it from the deck because (at that time) I had way less black spells, since I've changed to reanimator I have way more uses for black mana, I will consider perhaps changing Tolaria West for Urborg.
2 days ago
Sgtpopnfreash First of all, thanks a lot for your comments!
I don't actually have Timetwister, Candelabra of Tawnos, Flusterstorm, Copy Artifact, Volcanic Island, Underground Sea and The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, but if I had them, I would certainly use them in this deck.
I'll tell you why I like having Faithless Looting in my deck. 1) it enables me to trade three(including itself) cards from my hand for two new other cards, while discarding lands or cards that i'll be able to cast later with Kess, dissident mage , such as Mind's Desire, 2) It interacts well in some Doomsday piles that I like to settle sometimes, 3) It helps me to trigger Threshold for Cabal Ritual. Cephalid Coliseum have a similar effect enabling me to trade three cards from my hand for three new cards, while it enters untapped and taps for blue mana.
Mizzix's Mastery and Paradox Engine are too powerful for not to use them. With Paradox Engine on the field I can easely storm out and with a tutor or enough draws I can quickly close the game. It also helps me to avoid some stax effects, which my playgroup is consistently improving. I'm also considering adding Vandalblast or By Force to deal with tax and stax artifacts.
Please let me know your thoughts on my comment.
3 days ago
Hey this is quite similar to my DD storm Kess list some suggestions I have. Misdirection is pretty high CMC for Ad Nauseam you could probably cut that. Some ad naus decks dont even run Force of Will but I think that is stupid. Faithless Looting isnt as good as some other draw spells, Night's Whisper or Chart A Course would both probably be better choices for your Doomsday piles. Phyrexian Metamorph is also very high mana costed for an Ad Nauseam deck, maybe think about Copy Artifact. Now Paradox Engine is interesting but I really haven't found it to be necessary for Kess decks specifically, between Yawgmoth's Will, the black rituals, High Tide and Kess herself you dont need Paradox Engine for more mana. Its just excessive. Other than that the deck looks pretty good I would add a few more Islands and probably cut Cavern of Souls and Cephalid Coliseum at least maybe some of the orchards too. Mizzix's Mastery, Thought Vessel and Fabricate all seem like iffy choices but they are fine if you don't have other cards.
Here is my kess deck if you would like to check it out. Kess Doomsday Storm
1 week ago
How would you feel about changing Thought Vessel out with Venser's Journal? That way you have a form of life gain in the deck while not losing out on the no max hand size function of Thought Vessel. Looks like an interesting commander that I might make in the future. I'm going for ideas atm.
1 week ago
RothMcVeCards: I've taken another look at Diviner's Wand and have decided to run it. It'll be an interesting boon, as it'll enable more interaction when I have infinite mana but nothing to do with it. Imprisoned in the Moon has become situational in my meta and will be removed. I am still curious about your take on Mystic Remora vs Rhystic Study.
Jimmy_Chinchila: Of the suggested options, I will mainboard Thought Vessel and will think on Elixir of Immortality for a while. Snapcaster Mage is a bit out of my price range for this deck at the moment, but would do some serious work here and will be added if and when I get one.
2 weeks ago
I'm working on an Ur Dragon deck too. You have a much better curve than mine, so I might steal some stuff from you if its in my budget =P
2 weeks ago
I strongly agree with PartyJ on the land count and even go further, because WB can be slow on ramp, you need mana rocks:
On the ramp side, there are a few things that can get you lands, but some can be expensive:
Besides all the above in my opinion this deck needs a direction on what you want to do with it, namely answering the questions What does this deck do? and How does it wins by doing that?
I also sort of agree with shaftdiggity's suggestion. Since your commander has a low CMC, and also is not very easy to deal with, you can rely on him staying on the battlefield and using his ability to get your creatures back from your graveyard. So, one way to go is by searching for creatures with relatively low CMC and/or good Enter the Battlefield effects, combined with Sacrifice Outlets.
These are some ETB examples:
- Oreskos Explorer
- Enlightened Ascetic
- Blade Splicer
- Sin Collector
- Bone Shredder
- Fleshbag Marauder
- Merciless Executioner
- Slum Reaper
- Agent of Erebos
- Puppeteer Clique
- Patron of the Vein
- Angel of Serenity
- Angel of Despair
- Ashen Rider
These need to be used with an available Sac Outlet:
The way to play these cards goes like this: As they enter the battlefield, their first ability triggers and you get to exile somethin. Then, in response (or when the ability is on the stack but hasn't resolved yet you sacrifice the creature. Hence, the second ability will go to the stack, but since the first one hasn't resolved yet, there is nothing to return from exile. The first ability will then resolve, exiling something permanently.
Some good Sac Outlets exmples:
- Altar of Dementia
- Ashnod's Altar
- Phyrexian Altar
- Martyr's Cause
- Viscera Seer
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded
- Carrion Feeder
- Sadistic Hypnotist
Forcing your opponents to sacrifice with you is very good: