Thought Vessel


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Thought Vessel


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Thought Vessel Discussion

RedGriffin42 on Woah, did the ban list ...

1 hour ago

I am having the exact same issue. For me it is saying that Command Tower, Thought Vessel, Illusionist's Gambit, Baleful Strix, and my commander Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge are all banned.

ManaChrome on Is Deepglow Skate banned in ...

5 hours ago

umm... just went back and saw that Thought Vessel and Command Tower got shifted to "Not legal in Commander" in the same deck.... what is happening??!!

Emzed on Oloro Healthcare by Theblacula, modified by me

1 day ago

Transguild Promenade is a pretty bad card compared to Reliquary Tower, Glacial Fortress or Drowned Catacomb, i suggest you replace that one. Also, 3 cmc mana rocks like the Cluestones aren't optimal, i would rather play more Signets and Thought Vessel. Saving a mana here and there really makes a big difference and allows for more explosive starts.
Currently, your deck doesn't have many tools to defend against powerful plays like Cyclonic Rift overload, Expropriate or Tooth and Nail (or whatever other unfair thing your playgroup tends to do). A couple more cheap counterspells like Swan Song or Arcane Denial could help.

dreamistt on Cascade cascade cascade cascade cascade cascade..

5 days ago

Waste Not seems like a waste in a deck focused on the combat damage/cascade instead of wheel effects (Kydele at the helm). I'd also remove said wheel effects Windfall, Whispering Madness and Reforge the Soul (specially since you won't be cascading if you cast it for the Miracle cost). Maybe keep Wheel of Fate as a target for 0 cmc. And did you seriously go for Notion Thief + Wheel effect (aka Leovold's reason for being banned?). This would be a reason to really hate on your deck (which you said you would try to avoid this time).

Consuming Aberration is a strong and annoying creature to deal with, but it does seem out of place here. Is your plan to kill everyone via combat/cascading or do you want to mill everyone out? He does so much better in Chaos Yidris/Storm Yidris...

Hellkite Tyrant would be better off in an artifact heavy deck (even though you have a bunch of mana rocks and stealing artifacts is always fun, I think it doesn't impact the game as much as you'd like).

Damia, Sage of Stone requires you to wait a whole turn before doing something. So, unless you go for some extra turn cards, I'd rather have a bunch of effects that drew me cards immediately or increased the number of cards drawn each turn: Mulldrifter, Thoughtcast for the Affinity, Scour the Laboratory for the Delirium, Recurring Insight is almost guaranteed to draw you 6+ cards since it has rebound and Pore Over the Pages untaps some lands for you.

Deepfathom Skulker, Mask of Memory, Bident of Thassa, Tandem Lookout all provide extra card draw from combat. Staff of Nin provides a good passive card draw (and the 1 damage basically means opponents' creatures have 1 less toughness if needed).

Null Profusion is one of the weird cards that could work really well with Yidris. If you manage to drop a Thought Vessel or Reliquary Tower AFTER it, the hand-restriction is nullified and it's important to notice it grants you a draw for playing lands as well.

Did you purposefully let extra turn cards out? Better than netting an extra attack step would be netting an extra turn.

Boundless Realms could also be interesting since it grants a cascade into 6- and ramps you a lot in the mid game (which is very important in your deck). Zendikar Resurgent would also work really well, granting an extra draw per creature spell and doubling up your mana, even though it doesn't thin your deck as Boundless Realms does.

I'd drop Elixir of Immortality since you have better options such as Praetor's Counsel and Seasons Past.

Whispersilk Cloak and Trailblazer's Boots seem unnecessary. Most of the time there'll be someone with not enough defenses to stop your Yidris. And if there are, you'd be better off clearing the path instead of going through and relying on a good cascade to turn the tables. You could also try Intimidation or Shizo, Death's Storehouse since Fear often translates into unblockable (you just have to attack the right person)

Savage Ventmaw is mostly used with Aggravated Assault or Hellkite Charger for infinite (or near infinite) combat steps. Since you don't enjoy infinite combos, you could go for the Hellkite (it's also cheaper). Metalwork Colossus works pretty well with a good number of mana rocks.

If you feel like spending some money, Scroll Rack allows you to "choose" your cascades.

cklise on Liliana vs Kothoped as commander

6 days ago

However, if an opponent has an infinite sac outlet.. they're probably winning the game that turn anyway.

If you do go with the demon, get yourself instant speed sac outlets, along the lines of Altar's Reap or Viscera Seer, to get rid of your commander if you're at risk for him becoming a burden. I would recommend including Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower to hold onto your fistfuls of cards. Definitely include healthy amounts of removal, targeted and mass. Additionally, he's a decent-sized beater, so commander damage wins aren't off the table either.

greatdevourer on Toshiro the Killslinger

1 week ago

Great looking deck. I like the core ideas you have. I've played against a similar deck before and it wrecked me. However, I noticed some cards in the deck that could be swapped out for better options to make the deck stronger. Let me explain.

One of the concepts that took me a long time to learn when playing Magic was card advantage. Simply put, more cards in hand means more options. So in most of my decks, I don't use tutors such as Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and the rest.At best, they are a 1-for-1 trade of a card in hand for a card from deck. But you get more options drawing cards. Additionally, when playing blue, I never counter a tutor spell, I wait an counter whatever you tutored for. That way I use 1 counter spell and get rid of 2 cards in your hand. Dark Petition and Diabolic Tutor could be cut to make room for more instants that Toshiro Umezawa can use. For most black decks, I would suggest Rune-Scarred Demon and Increasing Ambition but I think you should keep your mana costs low.

Another problem I saw was that you have a couple of "maximum hand size cards" which I think are weak. Simply put, if you have more than 7 cards in your hand why aren't you playing them? Lack of mana? Waiting for some specific condition? Usually, it isn't that great to just sit around holding that many cards. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have cards in hand, but do you really need more than 7 on a regular basis? Thought Vessel, Venser's Journal seem to do too little for you and work against the card drawing engine of the Null Profusion. Also, since your general allows you to view your graveyard as an extension of your hand, why worry about hand size at all?

Withering Boon seems a bit weak for a creature kill card. I think you would get more out of the Oblivion Strike in your maybe board instead.

Consuming Vapors is a card that I think would be great in your deck. Opponent loses a creature, triggers your general, rebounds, and you get life out of it. Seems pretty awesome. What about Avatar of Woe or Visara the Dreadful are reusable creature kill abilities? Caged Sun might help ramp your mana. But it depends on whether you're playing multi-player or dueling.

I hope these suggestions at least give you some new ideas. Also, feel to take a look at my decks and let me know what you think. As always, temper these suggestions with your collection and your budget.

Geralf_Cecani on Shifting Into High Gear (Primer)

1 week ago

The problem with Psychosis Crawler is that when you have 0 cards in hand, it dies: and you empty your hand every time you cast a spell. Yes you refill it instantly afterwards, but it still resolves (I had to remove a crawler from my Windfall deck for exactly the same reason.)

You may also want to throw in a pair of Lightning Greaves and a Clout of the Dominus to protect your commander. Incidentally, some more cards you should consider include Spellbook and Venser's Journal, but since you're looting so much you're practically tutoring, you probably won't need more than Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower. But its something to think about.

Something else you need to consider is mana rocks/dorks. Your commander is six mana, which is a lot. If you want to get him out fast, increase your mana base. Remember, you aren't 'semi-tutoring' until you get you commander, so you can't just cycle until you get all your rocks.

theSLiKbandit on Bragonian Taxes

1 week ago

Triton - Yeah, I'm aware that Winter Orb is a thing and might consider it, but the tax pieces I'm looking for should be more along the lines of Mystic Remora that may cause your opponent to pay more for not wanting you to do a thing and less like Ghostly Prison because I'm not attempting to turn this into some sort of fortress type deck.

Thought Vessel is a thing I'll want to have considering the amount of draw I'll have available to me. But that, Muddle the Mixture, and Winter Orb don't quite hit the $80 or near $80 limit I'm trying to get to here.

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