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Thorn of Amethyst
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Thorn of Amethyst Discussion
1 month ago
I don’t know your meta but in a blind meta I think that you should play Sphere of Resistance , Static Orb Tangle Wire , Thorn of Amethyst , Trinisphere , Winter Orb and maybe Root Maze . You must add some restriction cards such as Containment Priest , Ethersworn Canonist and Spirit of the Labyrinth . In a graveyard environment you must play at least with Grafdigger's Cage and Rest in Peace . Autumn's Veil and Mirri's Guile are great additions too.
1 month ago
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1 month ago
Yo! RG decks are interesting. Here's what I think -- feel free to disregard it:
The main attraction of running green is having access to one-mana mana-dorks. Llanowar Elves , Birds of Paradise , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic and Orcish Lumberjack will all speed up your deck tremendously, while giving you bodies for Overwhelming Stampede or similar finishers. Exploration is a good accelerator, though it can be expensive; search for tomorrow is similar. There are some two- or three-mana dorks you might also want to consider, like Priest of Titania , Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Somberwald Sage . Having dorks ramps green faster than any other color is capable of.
Overwhelming Stampede is an excellent card; in that vein, Overrun and Triumph of the Hordes are both good finishers. If you want to put money into the deck, Craterhoof Behemoth is a great card in Legacy Elves that also works here. Grabbing Craterhoof with something like Natural Order can produce a really fast win. Green Sun's Zenith is another good tutor-spell, which can also fetch Dryad Arbor turn one.
I see you're running Nature's Lore . Farseek is a great card to fetch a mountain, especially if you choose to run Stomping Ground , Sheltered Thicket and/or Cinder Glade . Taiga is good, too, but that's pushing $200 these days... effing OG duals.
Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip is a good card, and an affordable version of Gaea's Cradle . Similarly, Slate of Ancestry is a very underrated EDH card that would be a powerhouse in this deck. In the line of card-draw, Beast Whisperer and Harmonize are worth considering.
Karplusan Forest , Spire Garden , Command Tower and Grove of the Burnwillows are four excellent non-basic, ETB-untapped lands for your colors. You should run these, if at all possible. I think they're better than Jund Panorama and Naya Panorama , as well as Rogue's Passage . You should consider Kessig Wolf Run , as well as cutting one or two lands from the final list.
Depending on how sadistic you are, you may also want to consider running some stax pieces. Thorn of Amethyst is an excellent card in most green decks, as these decks tend to produce oodles of mana and not cast too many non-creature spells. Pyrostatic Pillar and Eidolon of the Great Revel are excellent ways to keep low-curved decks in check. Harsh Mentor varies with meta calls, though it can be very strong. Stranglehold can ruin some strategies, and Price of Glory can nuke counter-heavy decks. Similarly, Vexing Shusher is useful to avoid getting countered, especially since you don't have to activate it until after an opponent casts a counterspell. Scab-Clan Berserker is worth considering.
I suggest Gamble . It's the best tutor in your colors. Eternal Witness is another pretty good card you may want to consider to get you back in the game after a board-wipe. I suggest running Grim Flowering or Nature's Resurgence for the same reason.
Your spot removal will be dependent on how hard you want to lean into Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . If you want to keep him, Reclamation Sage and similar effects are the way to go. Without him, or while thinking of him as a secondary creature, you should run Nature's Claim and/or Krosan Grip . Chain of Acid is an interesting card I've been wondering about recently, so you may be interested in experimenting with it. Hull Breach is similar to Decimate , and is often a two-for-one. Shattering Spree , By Force , Ancient Grudge , Vandalblast and Fiery Confluence are good as well.
Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion is an efficient, powerful creature that helps cycle away dead cards in your hand, all while generating mana. Huntmaster of the Fells Flip is another super-efficient creature. Boartusk Liege is valuable for its anthem effect and not-insignificant body. Siege Behemoth is another recommendation, for obvious reasons.
Depending on your meta, Sunder Shaman , Choke , Carpet of Flowers , Flashfires and Boil are options. If you keep your mana-base with only a few non-basics, Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon and Ruination are good cards. If your meta is super aggressive, you should consider Loxodon Warhammer or Basilisk Collar in order to recoup life points. Runic Armasaur is another good consideration if your meta has a lot of fetch lands and the like.
Strionic Resonator is a way to copy your general's trigger, and may be tremendously helpful. Resolving them in succession on the same creature results in quadrupled power.
Alright, that's all I got for now. I hope you found these suggestions at least a little helpful. Good luck with deck building!
1 month ago
I highly suggest investing a little more into your mana base. Temple Garden is good to fetch out with your Windswept Heath (as it's a dual), along with your Canopy Vista . Scattered Groves is another land to consider here, along with Savannah , if you want to blow $150 on a marginal improvement. Off-color fetches are similar; they are effectively duals as they allow you to fetch your Canopy Vista and friends. If you choose to run fewer fetches, Suppression Field can be plain brutal against a lot of decks.
I see you're running a few dorks; I advise adding a few more, as they're one of the best aspects of your colors. Arbor Elf and Llanowar Elves would be good additions. If you want more one-mana ramp spells, Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth are options that also act synergistically with Arbor Elf . Priest of Titania , Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Somberwald Sage can be great too.
Swords to Plowshares is better than Path to Exile . In EDH, giving an opponent five to ten life is unfortunate, but not terribly bad; ramping an opponent, on the other hand, can be very dangerous. I advise against spells that can help speed up your opponents.
Along that vein, slowing your opponents down is a good idea. Vryn Wingmare , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Glowrider are all good tax effects identical to Thorn of Amethyst that also can come in for damage. Gaddock Teeg is great for holding off board-wipes, as Damnation , Wrath of God and Supreme Verdict are all uncastable while he's on the field. Kataki, War's Wage is a powerhouse as well.
Depending on your meta, you may have a lot of options for color-specific interactions. Carpet of Flowers is excellent if your meta is really blue, and Choke is a pretty mean card with essentially the opposite effect.
In green, you might way to consider adding a land-recursion package if you have access to it. Ramunap Excavator is good for bringing back your fetch land(s), and thereby guarantees land drops. Exploration is an excellent card, if you're willing to spend $25 to get ahold of it, that accelerates you like crazy from turn one. Sticking a Wasteland or Strip Mine into the mix is pretty spicy too.
In creature-heavy decks, Slate of Ancestry is a powerful card-draw engine.
Natural Order is busted in Legacy Elves; it'd also be busted here. Grabbing Craterhoof Behemoth for four mana tends to end games fast, or at least put your opponents into the five to ten life range. Similarly, but significantly worse, Green Sun's Zenith , Finale of Devastation and Chord of Calling can all end games. Worth noting is that if you include Dryad Arbor in your deck, you can grab it with GSZ on turn one for one mana. Along the lines of finishers, Overwhelming Stampede is good, but I would run Triumph of the Hordes first. Be weary, as people can be salty about losing to infect in EDH.
If you choose to run some equipment in your deck, Stoneforge Mystic is good. It is approaching $40, but as you already run Sylvan Library I figured I'd mention it. I don't advise running more than two or MAYBE three equipments in your final list, and Stoneforge both fetches then and provides a body to carry them. In this vein, I do like Dragon Throne of Tarkir in your list; you should consider running Batterskull and/or Sword of Fire and Ice . Sword of Truth and Justice , from Modern Horizons, is another card you may want to consider -- I think its price will go down, at least a little.
Deftblade Elite is an interesting creature you should consider. It's good for removing the single blocker your opponent might have, especially if the blocker would kill something important of yours.
That's all I got. Good luck with deck building!
2 months ago
Ok. So you said you want degenerate, so... here goes.
First off, Braids, Cabal Minion is banned. So you might want to remove it.
You should either be running the fetches, including the off-color ones like Flooded Strand , or run Suppression Field ; this also is a somewhat broader and more applicable answer to planeswalkers than The Elderspell , as it has non-planeswalker target. It puts a damper on the planeswalkers, but I feel like they might be better replaced with board wipes like Wrath of God , Day of Judgment , Damnation or Toxic Deluge . When I played this general, I don't think I ran any creatures; they tend to be easily removed, but their effects may be replaced by enchantments/artifacts (ex: Thorn of Amethyst replaces Thalia, Guardian of Thraben ). Additionally, because Athreos, God of Passage is indestructible, it survives most board wipes. I recommend Erebos, God of the Dead as a second useful god; and in an Oloro meta, it seems particularly applicable. Sphere of Safety and Lightmine Field can serve as further deterrents to attackers; Maze of Ith also fits in well. Serra's Sanctum also is a powerhouse, if combined with a high-enough enchantment count. If you take the creature-less rout, I advise Night of Souls' Betrayal to remove the ability of elf- or dork-based decks to function. You might also consider Cursed Totem .
I see you have Vampiric Tutor in the maybe board. It's massively superior to Diabolic Tutor , if only because of its much lower mana cost; Imperial Seal is a strictly worse version I run in my Kess list, but it is also very good. Bitterblossom is a great inclusion, especially if you're running something like Contamination to mess with everyone's mana.
Mana Crypt is invaluable in cEDH decks. Fragmentize is a good white equivalent to Nature's Claim , especially in metas with low curves. Leyline of the Void or Rest in Peace are good techs against graveyard decks like as Gitrog, with the added advantage of allowing a win with a Helm of Obedience activation.
I've never been impressed with 1-for-1s in EDH; by that token, Mortify and Doom Blade may be on the chopping block. Utter End is alright, simply because of its universality. I'd replace these with the above boardwipes, but I also suggest Pox or Smallpox . Pox has the additional advantage of severely lowering your opponents' life totals, so ad nauseum players tend to just cry, and your Painful Quandary becomes more oppressive. Stab Wound , which is another type of 1-for-1, might be better replaced with Palace Siege . Swords to Plowshares is the single 1-for-1 I highly recommend, because of its low cost, exile-based removal, and relatively small downside.
Good luck! Stax em out.
2 months ago
First, what do you mean be stax?
There are tons of types. Often, it is in reference to a few, but there are tons.
Land destruction/land hate is a common type, but it is massive in scale is style:
Ravages of War , Armageddon , Ruination , Winter Orb , Back to Basics , Impending Disaster , Wildfire , Myojin of Infinite Rage , Decree of Annihilation , Cataclysm , Jokulhaups , Tectonic Break , Obliterate , etc.
Tax effects are plentiful too, Trinisphere , Nether Void , Sphere of Resistance , etc. are often considered staxy, Grand Arbiter Augustin IV , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Vryn Wingmare , Glowrider , Thorn of Amethyst etc. are taxing, but so are Pendrell Mists , Magus of the Tabernacle , The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale , Kataki, War's Wage , etc. count too.
Even color hate like High Seas can count in that department, etc.
I don't think you can ban stax.
2 months ago
Hey here are some great cards to destroy a kess deck...i always have to play with the 95% stock list of kess.
and then some stax pieces, which I think you can use because your commander gets around the cost
though if you play these then you probably want to play some bounce cards
3 months ago
AJe11y, basing the mana curves off of TappedOut top 5 cEDH decks is unfortunately not the best way to gather data. If you check r/CompetetiveEDH, you'll find a phenomenal and widely agreed upon cEDH repository. 1.7 isn't very far-fetched. Here's a very popular and powerful list that does so: Breakfast Hulk. My personal project runs just under 1.8 (here it is -> Sydri, Aetherflux Genius [[Primer]]). Even higher average CMC control lists such as Tasigur Seasons Past / Season Pastigur sit closer to 2.
I understand your point about infinite mana, and can agree to it to enough of an extent to accept it. You haven't missed any tutors in red, as Gamble is about all you've got, but because of this is why i recommended the stax pieces ( Grafdigger's Cage and the like) to give you options to slow down the game in hopes to draw/tutor what you need. Graveyards are huge in the current meta (i.e. Hulk, Storm, and Pod), so any ways in which you may be able to stop them are beneficial. If you don't have a problem with ramp, Trinisphere and Thorn of Amethyst may work for you as well.
Ensnaring Bridge may be a nice card to cut because of the fact that most midrange cEDH swing with Tymna the Weaver , Najeela, the Blade-Blossom , and friends. Along with that Lightning Bolt can be a relevant sideboard card for you. Also, a sideboarded Boil over Nevinyrral's Disk can crumble mono-blue decks. Other cards that could help you filter through your deck more are Memory Jar and Forgotten Cave . Otherwise, the deck is solid and is very similar to how I would build it. The lines of play are also well explained and this is overall a very nice primer.
Thorn of Amethyst occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%