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If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.
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Laboratory Maniac Discussion
10 hours ago
Muldrotha can play out Laboratory Maniac, then when you draw a card with Thrasios, you win the game.
2 days ago
The_Eternial_Flame not my favorite tribe (more into vampires) but I started brewing with Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca latter wanted some of the white merfolk then said might as well go four color. And thanks for the complement i also what your option should I add Laboratory Maniac to the deck.
3 days ago
Thanks all! :)
RazortoothMtg Ahh, thanks for the reminder on deranged assistant. I run him in my Lasav, but couldnt recall the name.
Font of Fertility is in there, as I said, Ive a pretty decent selection of both artifact and enchantment ramp effects going on. That is one of the reasons I was rather unsure of Burnished Hart, as I have 5 artifact ramp effects already included. But it is good, just feels too hampered by being colorless to be really efficient. Still, IDK on the Hart.
SteelSentry If I had some Sac outlets, I would probably run Veteran Explorer for sure, but my build so far has been almost exclusively self-sacrificing, and without a reliable way to get him dead, hes not quite worth it.
The ol Dreamscape artist... He just doesnt really hold up compared to other available ramp sources unfortunately. Sincehe requires a card in hand it is limited, and three additional mana as well kinda sucks. Plus he has to tap making him slow. He def fits the theme though, as he does discard and sac a land, which are both of little consequence when running muldrotha. A great suggestion, but I think just slightly to restrictive to be worth it.
enpc Thanks for pointing out Embodiment had a tap, I had just lumped it in with Diligent Farmhand and... now that I think of it, was there another? I was pretty sure there was, but now I cant recall. Hmmm... But yeah, Farmhand is better than the Elk for sure, thanks. Not just for curve, but because at worst its a cheaper chump blocker :P
Heart Warden is just so overcosted for the draw, and in a bad perm type. I could draw a card for free with an artifact cast, draw a card for 1 with an enchant, so paying 4 for a coveted creature cast slot just seems super inefficient.
Both far wanderings and primal growth have good synergy with Muldrotha, totally, but I was considering running a Primal Surge wincon with either Concordant Crossroads or Laboratory Maniac finishers. If the surge ends up getting dropped, they will probably both end up in there.
rob_shifflett I had the staff in my starting list, but 3 mana a turn to protect muldrotha was too costly, never mind having to use the artifact recast slot for it. When there is Neurok Stealthsuit, both Boots, Sylvan Safekeeper, and Siren Stormtamer at our disposal, the staff seems quite lusterless in comparison unfortunately.
Rusty_Shackleford I didnt link it, but I did mention in my OP that Sakura Elder was one of the "must have" rampers. Thanks though :)
Here is a pile of cards Im so far working with, if anyone is interested. Faaaaar from a deck, but in the works. Gravemind
5 days ago
I've made a similar deck, but with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind as the commander.
You could consider Minds Aglow , Gitaxian Probe , Dream Fracture , Psychic Spiral , Remand , Twincast , Jace's Archivist , and then Consecrated Sphinx for turning your group hug drawing into a self hug, and maybe Laboratory Maniac for the backup if you draw your whole deck.
Overall though, looks like a fun and solid deck! Goodluck :)
And here's My draw everything deck for reference.
5 days ago
Paradox Engine was in for some time but it went against Natural Affinity and Sylvan Awakening, it dont work so well with 6 signet out of 10 total rocks and only 10 dorks, I love it and testad for a very long time but found it suboptimal in the end.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion with Intruder Alarm and Earthcraft or Cryptolith Rite do crazy things so I'll keep it. The other one and niblis can easily be cut as you say for Metallurgic Summonings (very good, I knew it but I had not thought about it) and for.....boh, my meta is too agressive for Concordant Crossroads, Laboratory Maniac have a lifespan of 4-5 seconds, so I think to give Treasure Cruise a second chance.
Thanks a lot!
5 days ago
Thanks for the feedback ericchen2003 I definitely want to get a Laboratory Maniac for this deck, and have been unsure what card to cut for him. I am thinking Gilder Bairn as that Kraj is no longer the Commander the Bairn is less relevant.
(Also tracking down a foil version would be ideal, but will be difficult...)
6 days ago
Well if that's the case I can recommend a fun build recently featured on MTGGoldfish. It's Muldrotha permanent only, that only runs Primal Surge and can find it with Rune-Scarred Demon and Razaketh, the Foulblooded. It's a pretty grindy build, but once you find the primal surge and cast it, you win via Laboratory Maniac and a draw trigger off of Mulldrifter or Prime Speaker Zegana :)
This is a fun, fair and grindy alternative, that might be ok with your table. At least I am gonna create a version of that for mine.