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Enchantment — Aura
(Blue)(Blue): Enchanted creature phases out.
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3 weeks ago
Sovereigns of Lost Alara doesn’t work for you here. You don’t have any auras you would want to put on zur, so either add some like Diplomatic Immunity or Vanishing or anything really, or just cut the sovereigns.
Some of your enchantments are situational, like Convalescence. They could be cut for something with a lot more value for you.
4 weeks ago
Being a fellow "enchantment tribal" deck player, I know that this type of deck is rather slow to get going, which requires certain cards to help keep you in the game. My suggestions will be based around that, as well as the list of opponents you gave on your thread. If you have any questions on my suggestions or what to take out, I'd be happy to go into detail with you.
As for slowing down other players and keeping you in the game, Overburden is a rather unknown card but surprisingly effective. If not dealt with, it can leave players at 3 or 4 lands or stop them from playing creatures for a time. Personally, this card won me a game against an Ezuri, Renegade Leader deck because I got it out early enough.
Solitary Confinement is another underrated card. While the drawbacks are significant, the benefits are equally as potent. As long as you have some sort of draw engine, you will be fine.
Island Sanctuary goes in the same category as Solitary Confinement, providing you with significant creature evasion that's worth the price.
Energy Field is also an underrated card, especially with Estrid being able to ult and bring it back if needed. It's good early game to protect you and late game it's an added nuisance to your opponents.
One of the best draw engines I've found for this deck is Rayne, Academy Chancellor. If Anything you control or you is targeted, you can draw a card for each time. And with your commander's -1 ability being able to enchant her, you can draw 2 cards every time. It's a deterrent, while also a powerful draw engine when people want to get rid of some annoying enchantments.
As for dealing with the list of opponents you gave, these cards will deal with them to a point while also being just a general good addition to the deck:
1. Izzet Partner Politics: Difficult to suggest a card here as this can mean numerous things.
2. Yidris Cascade: Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, Rule of Law, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Dovescape, Humility, Solitary Confinement, Maze of Ith, Vanishing.
3. Atraxa: Solemnity, Humility
4. Krenko: Damping Matrix, Humility, Overburden, Leyline of Singularity, Dueling Grounds
5. Sigarda: Bonds of Mortality, Humility
6. Zacama: Containment Priest, Humility, Overburden
7. Breya: Aura of Silence, Damping Matrix, Suppression Field (Affects planeswalkers too, so be aware), Solitary Confinement.
8.Edgar: Not familiar with vampire opponents, but Humility, Solitary Confinement, Dueling Grounds can help.
9.Shu yun: Humility, Maze of Ith, Vanishing, Solitary Confinement, Energy Field
Other cards that are worth including: Carpet of Flowers, Dawn's Reflection, Stasis, Fertile Ground, Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Sylvan Library, Overgrowth, Verdant Haven, Wild Growth, Supreme Verdict, Terminus, Boseiju, Who Shelters All.
1 month ago
Vanishing is a staple for any Voltron list that runs blue.
2 months ago
2 months ago
Tunman, like SynergyBuild stated. I also, didn’t find Vanishing too beneficial in this case. It is an option for protection, if extra is needed for certain metas. Right now, for me, the flex Auras that can be swapped out for alternate spells are, Predator's Gambit, Indestructibility and Spirit Loop. So if this were to be used as a blueprint. Those spells are good as gone for other flavor spells.
jesusaintnodj, thanks for the +1! I’m glad you enjoy the build! SynergyBuild, did mention before that I should add an infinite combo. So by popular demand, I’ll do just that. I’ll add Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond . Also, I have been playing around with a couple prototype builds based on this. One that is the “Control Edition” and the other I have dubbed the “Time Walk Edition.” Time Walk Edition, includes Nexus of Fate, Time Warp, Temporal Mastery, Temporal Trespass, Karn's Temporal Sundering, Temporal Manipulation, Capture of Jingzhou and Walk the Aeons. Cards that I cut for those are, Predator's Gambit, Indestructibility, Spirit Loop, Gilded Lotus, Consecrated Sphinx, Hero of Iroas, Kor Spiritdancer and Sram, Senior Edificer.
2 months ago
Vanishing Requires to activate, which isn't always easy to get. Indestructibility costs , and for Vanishing to be useful even once, you need , two times is more than wasteful, and otherwise it isn't than great of a card.
The reason I could see running it is for removal, which I don't think is super nessecary, despite being a way to get rid of commanders.
2 months ago
3 months ago
Full disclosure, I don't have a Vorosh deck, but I've been theory crafting and looking into it. Hakim is one of my main decks. Please factor this accordingly.
In the case of Vorosh, I think people underestimate that color combination substantially. It has access to cards like Vanishing or Diplomatic Immunity allowing it to dodge and preserve counters, as well as counterspells and tutors. Black and blue have a ton of ways to make creatures unblockable, as well as ways to deal with threats. I would by no means call a Vorosh deck fast. But with ramp and a good set of answers I wouldn't call it tier 5 either. After it lands an attack once, it can drop any player within 2 turns via unblockable commander. And again, it's color combo lends itself well to biding its time and riding out threats. Not to mention a late Beacon of Tomorrows or Time Stretch is a guaranteed kill if cast at the right time.
Hakim is definitely one I personally use so pls no bully. But the ability to recur enchantments without having to expose yourself by attacking means you can make a resilient one man control platform. All the pieces it needs to come online and become a threat are recurrable. Enchants due to his ability, and equipment due to being able to be fetched from the graveyard by blue. Charisma, Psionic Gift, Neko-Te, Vanishing, Grafted Exoskeleton, Pemmin's Aura, Quietus Spike, Drake Umbra and other totems, Freed from the Real, Eldrazi Conscription, Illusionist's Bracers, Hermetic Study, Diplomatic Immunity, Sword of Kaldra, Corrupted Conscience, Blight Sickle, Sigil of Sleep, Oracle's Insight. The overlapping cards fulfilling the same role combined with the fact you can comfortably dump to graveyard(by overdrawing or other effects) means you can quickly dig for what you need. It's somewhat mana greedy but once it spools up its very hard to deal with. You've gotta get past counterspells, phasing out to dodge, recurring umbras, and hexproof. Usually multiple of those are online by like turn 7 or 8. And once it is online you can start trading mana 1 for 1 to get devastating effects. 1 blue mana can get you: destroy or exile target creature, put a poison counter on target player, "permanently" tap target creature, gain control of target creature, half target player's life, draw a card, etc. And if bumped up with helm of the gods or enchant stacking buffs all of this can be done while going full aggro on someone to proc annihilator or punch their face for damage. Finally, he can use recurring mass sacrifice effects to wear down enemies. Smokestack presents a somewhat mana inefficient option lategame to limit enemy's board state. For example, if you have a pemmin's aura, psionic gift, Diplomatic immunity combo online, you can run a smokestack at 3 charges indefinitely. Sacrifice the 3 Enchants during your upkeep, then pay 6 blue to rebuild them leaving the rest open for counterspells. Enemies are losing 3 permanents a turn while you keep enough mana open to counterspell or ping as needed. If brought online lategame after a board wipe your enemies will be completely unable to rebuild while you can continue building up your combo pieces.
In the case of both of these decks, they lend themselves to a decently strong voltron option. But they also both have access to some of the best ways to keep a creature alive through board wipes and preserve their bonuses they've been accruing.
With Vorosh, in theory a bit of biding your time combined with an Unblockable enchant(of which blue has tons) can build up to a time walk effect wherein you kill a player before they can even react. With Hakim, he turns into a controltron that is highly resistant to most answers against voltron decks, while also being able to rebuild extremely fast unless someone can punch through those multiple lines of defense AND wipe the graveyard out quickly.
Keep in mind, I HAVE NOT USED VOROSH, but I do play decks that operate in a similar manner. In theory Vorosh has a great deal of potential as a lategame sweeper with low time to kill aided by time walk effects.
I DO HAVE A HAKIM DECK AND AM THEREFORE BIASED. But hakim is(after some costly spool up) an absurdly efficient controltron commander. He can singlehandedly kill multiple players in a single turn via poison counters and Illusionist's bracers. Or permanently detain an entire board. And the fact all of these are instant speed means he can save his effects til end of turn on his enemy's turn leaving mana open to counterspell threats he can't deal with.