Mana Vault doesn't untap during your untap step.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may pay . If you do, untap Mana Vault.
At the beginning of your draw step, if Mana Vault is tapped, it deals 1 damage to you.
: Gain .
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|Ultimate Masters Promo (UMAP)||Mythic Rare|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Rare|
|Masters Edition IV (ME4)||Rare|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Rare|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Rare|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Rare|
|Revised Edition (3ED)||Rare|
|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Rare|
|Unlimited Edition (2ED)||Rare|
|Collector's Edition (CED)||Rare|
|International Collector's Edition (CEI)||Rare|
|Limited Edition Beta (LEB)||Rare|
|Limited Edition Alpha (LEA)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Mana Vault occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.16%
UR (Izzet): 0.59%
WU (Azorius): 1.18%
WUB (Esper): 0.66%
UBR (Grixis): 0.71%
Mana Vault Discussion
5 days ago
The deck is in the 'help' section so I'll leave some ideas... I hope I'm not being presumptuous:
You may want to consider running all the relevant Zendikar fetches; I see you're missing Marsh Flats, for example. They're expensive, but you're running Underground Sea so I'm assuming budget isn't really a problem. The reason I say you should run them is that a. they'll make your Jace, the Mind Sculptor's Brainstorm ability that much better, and b. they'll let you run ACTUAL Brainstorm effectively. I've found cantrips to be really effective in EDH, and I think in addition to Brainstorm you should run Ponder and Preordain in pretty much any blue deck.
I think Murderous Rider is likely better than Hero's Downfall. It does tuck itself when it dies, which means reanimating it could be a little tricky, but having the extra value of being able to cast it as a creature seems a strict upgrade from just an instant.
If you do end up running Jace's Archivist from the 'Maybeboard,' consider running Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not and/or Bone Miser. I've always been a fan of the discard subtheme in EDH, and it goes pretty well with reanimation strategies. If you do consider running those cards, it's worth noting Windfall, Liliana of the Veil, Raven's Crime and Words of Waste are also really synergistic with them.
Lastly, I think Graveborn Muse has a spot in this deck. I know you said you aren't looking for zombie tribal, but she's at worst a Phyrexian Arena and you're tangentially making more zombies anyway. I feel like most of the time she'll draw you somewhere between 2 and 4 cards, which seems like it makes her worth it.
Right. That's all I got. Good luck!
1 week ago
Sup Nazaxed, glad ya like Nivvie!~
It's funny ya actually ask about those two specific cards as I have just recently added them in about two days ago. I see potential in Mana Vault when bursting out a lot more artifacts or having that Cyclonic Rift mana open on T3-5. I am still half and half on Mox Opal as I am still testing it out, it was dead in one of my hands in one game but the other games I surprisingly had 3 artifacts on the board usually.
In regards to Torpor Orb, I have been thinking a lot of adding it in. It only shuts down two of my cards and highly worth it so it will probably come in when I see a card that I don't like rn. The only issue I have with this current build is the lack of library reshuffle, at max I would have to do 120 to the table and my only way is Winds of Change. I been thinking of adding back in Mission Briefing and Snapcaster Mage as additional ways to recast Winds of Change. The other alternative thoughts that a friend recommend to me is adding in Thassa's Oracle and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. So not too sure what to do.
1 week ago
"That card is awful" dude points to my Mana Vault it taps for 3 and you need to pay 4 to untap it, that's awful. He was being 100% serious no sarcasm. I turn 3 Maelstrom Wanderer and killed table on t4 with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and sometimes else The following week he threw a tantrum about me playing the deck again.
2 weeks ago
So this is what it's like, being an outsider to the conversation, when listening to me. Huh. Interesting. I know I can be quite harsh and stern with bold opinions, but reading what I write kind of has no effect on me, since I'm the one who wrote it.
This feels... enlightening. Especially with my recent rant on the difference between EDH and cEDH.
Glad I stumbled across this thread. Good self reflection on my occasional jackass-ness. And to be clear, that's me calling myself a jackass, not someone else :)
Sorry Tappedout. Sometimes I just let my one-sided emotions get the best of me! Lol
I'm generally okay with proxies, as long as you are showing some effort to obtain them. For example, if you have a deck that would cost you $3,500 or heck even a deck that's $300 and you're working part time on minimum wage, I perfectly understand proxying out the thing.
But you at least have to show effort. If you show up week after week after week with the same paper cutouts, man at that point you're just killing me. Save up and buy a card or two here and there, don't just use the proxied deck as though it were the real one.
Look, I get not everyone can afford an OG dual land, but at the same time at least show some effort. For example, maybe you have a proxied Mana Vault because you don't wanna drop $40 right now, or can't. Well, if a week or so later you show up with the real deal, that's great and understandable. Or, if you can let people know you're working on it.
I know, it's ignorant of me to assume and force people to spend money they may or may not have, but the way I see it is if you are least TRYING to build the deck, it's okay. But if you are just proxying out all of the high end cards so you can have the most "expensive" deck possible so you can "win", I mean... I don't want to say maybe Magic isn't for you... but maybe focus on a hobby more within your budget?
It genuinely comes off the wrong way if you are only doing it for the cheap benefits. Like reaping all of the rewards with none of the effort. Makes it feel fake, and almost insulting to those who put their hard earned time and money and soul into the game.
Like I said, I get it if you can't afford that Gaea's Cradle. But at least work toward buying some of the "cheaper" cards, okay?
And I perfectly 100% support proxying out something so you don't damage your Jace, the Mind Sculptor. Because believe it or not, there's a BIG difference between owning the card and protecting it, which includes using proxies so it isn't curled or bent during play, and proxying out the expensive cards so you can play without buying them.
So my stance on it is: If you want to use proxies to protect super expensive cards, I 100% support it if you have the card in question. Also, if you are using proxies while you save up, great! But at least make the effort to work toward owning it IRL.
2 weeks ago
Thinking about adding in Sword of the Animist to help get us some lands.
I'd also like to add Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Light and Shadow, and Sword of Feast and Famine but these have proven to be expensive so will be added further down the line. Mana Crypt would also be added if I could justify spending $200. Maybe a future addition when I have a ton of store credit banked up.
If you have any suggestions I'd be happy to hear them, please leave justification for the suggestion.
2 weeks ago
There are still some that either are just lists of cards with the same effect or "combos" that need split into their respective interactions, as with my examples above. I even found someone who used the combo syntax on Plains + Wild Growth.
I have also recently come across a series of "combos" where someone just linked cards with a triggered ability and Strionic Resonator and another where someone linked a bunch of creatures with ETBs and Conjurer's Closet. Both of those are interactions, but it is the obvious use for those cards and doesn't rise to the level of "synergy". Allowing such "combos" to show on a page would make popular enablers page's unusable because of how crowded they would be with combos.
Strionic Resonator + Kor Outfitter (one I honestly reviewed today) is simply how Resonator is made to be used and does not provide any useful information to people wondering how to get stronger than intended interactions out of the card.
Maybe I am being a little too "Spikey", but I think that the combo database should only include things that at a minimum provide an interaction that is stronger than the base interaction that a given card has with every applicable card..
3 weeks ago
Hey, Demented Kirby, YouTube subscriber here. Other than YouTube, what do you do for a living where as you're able to afford Mana Vault, loads of fetches (among other expensive lands) and multiple moxes?? While still being able to afford rent,bills and food, etc. Cuz I'm gonna do that. Lol
3 weeks ago
Honestly, I think power level really does matter. I would play an ABU dual/fetch manabase, Rings of Brighthearth+Basalt Monolith, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, etc. in every one of my decks. The thing is, setting the expectation that decks will have that kind of "oops, I win on turn 3" power excludes a lot of people in the way a high buy-in at a poker table does.
I do think that makes EDH and cEDH different formats, because certain cards like Force of Will and Echoing Truth lose their utility at underpowered tables. Practically, though, I don't think this should change anything. There are 20,000 Magic cards, and EDH is a singleton format. EDH players could live with a Protean Hulk reban, same as cEDH players can live with the inexplicable ban on Primeval Titan, when casuals are far more likely to be packing Hour of Revelation and Nylea's Intervention than turn-1 Reanimate.