|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Rare|
|Masters Edition (MED)||None|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Rare|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Rare|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Rare|
|Revised Edition (3ED)||Rare|
|Revised Foreign Black Border (3EDFBB)||Rare|
|Unlimited Edition (2ED)||Rare|
|Collector's Edition (CED)||Rare|
|International Collector's Edition (CEI)||Rare|
|Limited Edition Beta (LEB)||Rare|
|Limited Edition Alpha (LEA)||Rare|
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As long as Winter Orb is untapped, players can't untap more than one land during their untap steps.
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Winter Orb Discussion
1 day ago
SP3CTR3_chelts I just feel that the the staff and sword cost too much Mana.
But to be completely honest I could probably work in staff without too much trouble.
Maybe I'll end up switching out with Mana Reflection .
The hall was in here I just switched it out for the Winter Orb .
If they know better, never. But it's really useful for getting counters are removal out of someone's hand before trying to combo.
1 week ago
the_odysseus thanks for the suggestions! I won't disagree with you on most of these (especially Phyrexian Altar , which I totally need to add), except to say that I don't really claim to be THE ideal way to build Teshar, or indeed a final product. It's very much a work in progress as I try to fine-tune the gears that make it work, as it were, which is fun for me. Martyr's Bond I could see being good in a less combo-focused, more value-oriented build of Teshar that tries to play the long game, but in my version I'm more interested in just stalling and discouraging people from hurting me than actively going after them like that. As far as I can tell Sigarda's Aid would only help me combo at instant speed with Bone Saw because you can't use the others' sac triggers at instant speed anyway, right? I've considered Shimmer Myr though. And I don't have that many of them anyway. I'm not a huge fan of non-repeatable one-shots like Silence , and initially had Grand Abolisher in the deck until I realized that most of the time I drew it, it was a dead card that I never felt I needed to protect my combos. The point of the combos and the deck is that it's so redundant that you can always recur things that get blown up or just restart the machine with a different gear.
I know it seems like sacrilege to skip Enlightened Tutor , but that's a recent subtraction actually. I realized that I only had one enchantment in my deck to search and only ended up getting artifacts that I probably could have gotten anyway through comparable draws, so I decided to cut it in favor of additional sac outlets and see how things worked out. If I decide I want it again, I'll add it back in. And like I said before, non-repeatable one-shots are something I try to avoid in this deck, so Stoneforge Mystic seems to trump Steelshaper's Gift for now.
Aven Mindcensor and Ghostly Prison are indeed good, but neither does much to help my combos and as I said with Martyr's Bond , I think they have a place in a more value-focused, less combo-oriented version of Teshar. I also didn't feel the Soul Sisters were needed if I had Aetherflux Reservoir because it's even a bit more versatile while accomplishing the same thing and being a win-con.
I personally feel Winter Orb is a little too unfun, even for me, but I'll admit it probably would be a good choice--although it makes me uncomfortable that it slows me down too. Lastly, Academy Rector is a card I've always felt was more like a one-shot than repeatable value, and plus you can't bring him back with Teshar anyway, thus his exclusion.
In summary, I don't think you're wrong about any of these suggestions--I'm just not sure some of them fit well in this sort of deck, necessarily. But I could be wrong, and I should probably try them out! Like I said, work in progress here. Hope I made some kind of sense. Thanks!
1 week ago
Really nice deck ! In my opinion going to 37/38 lands would make this even better ;) I know, it's hard to cut... In addition, of Toxic Deluge over Languish , I suggest a Blood Moon instead of your Winter Orb . Even if winter orb could be a blast when you have the board, it could sometimes be a dead card when you'll get overunned... Blood Moon is better to shut down decks without annoying you that much.Even with tap shenaningans I ended up throwing my winter orb of my aggro/control (some would say "midrange") Kumena deck because 1/3 times it's a dead card.
1 week ago
Martyr's Bond ? Sigarda's Aid seems good, allowing you to combo at instant speed. Grand Abolisher and Silence help protect you while comboing off, and Soul Warden or Soul's Attendant gains you infinite life with infinite etb's. Some stax pieces like Winter Orb might help slow down the game while you wait to combo off, and Aven Mindcensor is quite good. Academy Rector might be outside of your budget, but it can get you your sacrifice outlet enchantments. Ghostly Prison is good. Lastly, Phyrexian Altar is relatively cheap now.
1 week ago
With so many mana dorks in your deck it might be worth considering Winter Orb to further lock down your opponents; giving them even less things to play while you can still cast most of your spells via mana dorks.
Another thing I thought of is Dragon Throne of Tarkir . This’ll keep Ruric Thar from attacking and instead rely more on just his ability. It’ll also make your mana dorks more lethal in the mid-to-late stages of the game.
What are your thoughts? I enjoy this deck very much. It’s such a different take on a Ruric Thar deck. Even my Ruric Thar deck is just a creature beat down deck; I don’t have enough of an imagination to think of something like this :P If you’d like check out my Ruric Thar deck: Ruric Thar's Guide to Punching Mages in the Face! and lemme know what you think. I’d like to hear your opinion.
2 weeks ago
Enchantments: Worship .
Creatures: Moltensteel Dragon , Doom Whisperer , Shalai, Voice of Plenty , Angelic Arbiter , Angelic Skirmisher , Platinum Angel , Linvala, Keeper of Silence , Tariel, Reckoner of Souls , Akroma, Angel of Fury , Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Scourge of the Throne , Hellkite Tyrant , Griselbrand , Rakdos, Lord of Riots , Overseer of the Damned , Ob Nixilis, the Fallen , Harvester of Souls , Kokusho, the Evening Star .
3 weeks ago
Kiyomei: Yeah Soren841 will almost always point you in the right direction, so I would take his advice. As for Prelate in the context of my deck, if it hit creatures I would say it's pretty terrifying, luckily it doesn't and against this deck, in particular, it's nothing but a minor nuisance that I would rather keep on the field as it would hurt others more than me per se. Torpor Orb is pretty annoying, so Hushwing Gryff is pretty great since you can just time it against an important Regal Force , or Great Oak Guardian . Linvala, Keeper of Silence is a house against my deck, so both her and Cursed Totem are pretty great, the latter being the weaker/easier to deal with. Aven Mindcensor hurts the toolbox aspects of the deck a lot, so that's another really good one. Rule of Law forms like a gate when it comes to my deck, I have to deal with it before I pop off, which is not much of an issue, but the mere fact that I have to deal with it is always a good thing. Winter Orb doesn't hurt me in the slightest thanks to multiple sources of mana. Grand Abolisher locks me out of your turn hard, so it's perfect to combo off unopposed.
3 weeks ago
Szadek the Thought Collector
Legendary Creature - Vampire Spirit
Defender, Flying, Hexproof
During each opponent's end step, put a thought counter on Szadek the Thought Collector for each tapped permanent that player controls.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are 100 or more thought counters on Szadek the Thought Collector, you win the game.
Next: Another Stax card
Winter Orb occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0,03%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0,25%
GW (Selesnya): 0,06%
W/U (Azorius): 0,14%
GWU (Bant): 0,14%
RBW (Mardu): 0,06%