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Power Conduit Discussion
1 month ago
why am I like this. my apologies on the Trophy Mage suggestion vs Ensnaring Bridge , they kind of clash. with 24 creatures anyways, you could Fabricate which could also let you get Power Conduit at sorc speed as well. i'm also building simic atm but its WAY different (I like combat so I use swords). for your planeswalker spot Tamiyo, the Moon Sage and Tamiyo, Collector of Tales both work there. moon sage lets yo psudo Ajani Vengeant and Collector of Tales lets you dig all while fighting hand disruption which is weak in modern atm. after a tutor she can save you from that Thoughtseize . When I was building Sultai Eternal Command I would include this package in my board: Gifts Ungiven Life from the Loam Ghost Quarter and something to just get the 50% much like Field of Ruin , Eternal Witness , Snapcaster Mage , Noxious Revival any of that because the u/g retrace cards don't do much in a build like this but i enjoy a good softlock :D
1 month ago
The first card that came to my mind was Mycoloth , but you've added your list since I first saw this post and I see you've already got it. Good stuff!
Triskelavus is a bit costly mana-wise, but could be a good inclusion. Not only does it enter with its own counters, it also allows you to remove +1/+1 counters on it to create tokens that a) have flying, b) are artifacts (so have the extra synergy you're hoping for), and c) have a built-in sacrifice ability, which could come in handy.
Have you considered Avenger of Zendikar ? It has potential to give a lot of bodies up front, and puts +1/+1 counters on each of them for every landfall after. Might be a little too much work since you're not trying to max out landfall, but perhaps it'd be of use.
This might not be the right place to put Nacatl War-Pride , as triple green may be too much for a three color deck, but it's a card I think has great potential for commander. Every time it attacks you have a possible swarm of tokens at your disposal (depending on your opponents, of course), and since they aren't exiled until end of turn, you've time to sacrifice them for profit. Reyhan won't help on death unless you get counters on them (which you very well may), but with Death's Presence every token sac'ed gives three (or more) counters to play with.
I have Hooded Hydra in one of my edh decks (either Ghave, Guru of Spores or Thromok the Insatiable , but I forget which at the moment), and both decks play on similar themes to yours. The hydra gives tokens on death equal to the number of +1/+1 counters on it, which I think makes it ideal as a payoff card because it can leave you with board presence should it be killed. With that said, Hangarback Walker fills a similar role, requires no colored mana to use, and gives flying artifacts, so adding the hydra probably isn't necessary unless you want the redundancy.
Noosegraf Mob enters with +1/+1 counters and spits out a token when any player casts a spell, at the cost of one counter per instance. With your ability to put counters on it, perhaps it would be a good reusable source of token fodder.
Blade of Selves would be an interesting inclusion, allowing for multiple Winding Constrictor s in a turn, for example. Any sacrificing shenanigans would have to happen before end of combat, when the tokens are exiled, but the tokens themselves can be sacrificed for profit. The downside here is that you couldn't copy legendary creatures (such as Reyhan). Helm of the Host gets around the legendary restriction, and the tokens get to stick around, but at a much higher mana cost and slower rate of production.
A handful of artifacts that might be useful, especially with the proliferate you have, are Trigon of Infestation , Golem Foundry , and Titan Forge . Of these, I think the forge would be your best bet. Foundry requires casting artifacts to get your initial charge counter, and I don't think you've enough in your deck to count on that. Trigon enters with three counters initially, and can add more, but requires colored mana to activate for more counters, has a mana cost to produce the tokens, and the tokens aren't artifacts. Forge doesn't start with any counters, but only needs generic mana to add a charge and spits out 9/9(!)s, which can benefit from Steel Overseer .
My last suggestion doesn't create tokens, but is a card I've found useful for abusing +1/+1 counter multipliers ( Doubling Season specifically, in my case, but it would work with those in your deck just as well). Power Conduit allows you to remove a counter from a creature to put two (or three or so on) back, or onto another creature. I've also used it to "save" a +1/+1 counter from a creature that's been destroyed when no other creatures are on my field, storing it as a charge counter on the conduit itself until I have another creature to buff. It's limited to a single use per turn cycle, though, unless you can somehow untap it.
Sorry I've taken so long to post this. I read the question and started on my reply the day it was first posted, but have had to squeeze it in bit by bit on my limited chunks of free time. It doesn't help me much that I'm doing this all on a phone; both the research and reply would probably have been done a lot faster were I using an actual keyboard, lol. Not sure if any of this will help you, but they were things I might consider were I trying to build this sort of deck.
3 months ago
This is a very cool deck, you've built. I built out a Pir and Toothy deck as a per-cursor deck to my deck, Mad Science. You've got a lot of the same cards and abuses of counter creation built in ( Astral Cornucopia + Power Conduit types of things), and I love it! One thing I actually didn't think to do was put in level up creatures, but that's a nice touch! Out of curiosity, did you ever consider As Foretold ? I'm curious what you think about that card in a deck like yours. I get that you don't have too many huge mana cost spells, but a free one each turn would be nice if you're drawing tons of cards with Toothy.
Another card I really love for your deck is Give / Take , and I don't even hesitate to suggest that one, like I do with As Foretold. If you can cast both halves of it, it gives you the ability to draw cards off of Toothy without his needing to die, and then to power him back up again to a 5/5 (if Pir is also on the board). Alternatively, you can power Toothy up even higher with the 'Give' half, and then remove the counters to draw even more cards. If you can't cast both halves of it, it's still a nice card for early-mid game, and you choose which effect is most useful. It's a fantastic card with those two commanders as it has synergy with either/both of them.
3 months ago
Jerk decks like this are such fun to build even if it's not fun to play against. A kind of fun all of its own. I had a charge counters deck that took too long to combo off, so I leaned into it and added stax whatnots like Smokestack , Silent Arbiter , and, the one that's any relevant here, Quicksilver Fountain and Power Conduit . Conduit was a fit for the rest of that deck though, and I'm guessing you're not interested in Fountain because Boil and Choke hit the whole field. So, not much of a contribution, but anyways cool deck, I hadn't thought that there was enough going in Modern to pull such bananigans of this particular nature. Fun-looking Johnny deck.
3 months ago
Getting a permanent sac outlet would be good. My preferred is Voracious Null . A good card for removing the undying counters is Power Conduit as you can remove a counter and put it on another creature.
3 months ago
ManaLocked Yesterday I played a sweet game with this list and am already thinking about improvements and changes. In that game, I developed only lands and bodies on the first couple turns, but got powered up by Joraga Treespeaker and Nissa, Voice of Zendikar (eventually recurred by Eternal Witness ), also featuring a Walking Ballista and Hangarback Walker from turn 2 getting stacked. I recovered my board from a board wipe--powered up by that huge Hangarback Walker and Toothy dying--by setting up another big Toothy, which met Swords to Plowshares. Before getting exiled, Toothy prevented a Niv-Mizzet player from winning by forcing blocks, with assistance from Hardened Scales , and Hadana's Climb Flip flipping into Winged Temple of Orazca. Karn Liberated also put in work to remove a big blocker and Elspeth, Sun's Champion. Eventually I was able to eliminate two players in one turn (including protecting my lethal attackers with both Mystic Confluence and Heroic Intervention ), but not before flying chip damage and a big chunk from Havoc Festival brought me to a low enough life total that a Bosh, Iron Golem was able to finish me off in the same turn.
Loxodon Warhammer is a card that comes to mind as a card that I would have loved to have accessed during that game. Granting trample to a big Toothy and getting a big life swing to boot could be useful in many different situations. I love that almost any effect from an opponent that causes Toothy to leave the battlefield compensates me with a serious amount of cards: this mitigates the risk of inherent to an equipment like Warhammer, whereas normally it's punished with removal, especially instants. While Warhammer doesn't literally synergize with counters cards, it provides multiple effects that round out the strategy, and is probably the card I am going to add first.
Other notes on artifacts: The first board wipe caused me to forget that I had a tapped Power Conduit hidden among my lands, but somehow I sold how much I still like the card that it traded with a Scour from Existence. This card is tricky and interesting but it might just be worse than something like a Thought Vessel . I still want to get a feel of how good Throne of Geth is before I can determine whether Tezzeret, Artifice Master is something I want to add: a copy of Garruk, Primal Hunter I had drawn late game felt rather stranded in hand over a rebuilding board, but it has so much more potential for outrageous draws to boost Toothy and my hand, that I like it much more than Tezzeret, especially with this few artifacts to begin with. Neither of Tezz's abilities seem worthwhile enough to risk spend 5 mana on just to have it die to attackers or removal, and this deck might struggle to take advantage of the ultimate as currently constructed. Maybe the superfriends build wants him; I don't think this one does.
The deck is also very light on graveyard recursion, running only Eternal Witness. Being a little light on recursion is fine, as the card draw consistency of Toothy is resource advantage enough, but sometimes the best line can be made much better with a card from the graveyard. The top of my list is currently Seasons Past and maybe Elixir of Immortality , both of which also offer protection against decking.
Spike Weaver is next on the add list. Holding mana for the fog on it feels bad, but as this ability can mainly be used as a deterrent or political tool, it seems the upside is too good to pass up. I got a copy and am looking for a cut for it.
I'll add more to the description soon. This is absolutely currently my pet deck and it even inspired my choice to build The Haunt of Hightower , with the thoughts of placing a Hightower of counters on the commander reminding me of this deck. Thanks for your feedback and good luck to you!
4 months ago
If you want a more aggressive shell I would definitely try Experiment One , Pelt Collector , Strangleroot Geist , and Avatar of the Resolute . They can land quite sizeable blows early. A way to reload your hand could be Armorcraft Judge . I would personally recommend staying away from cards like Biogenic Upgrade which are just so expensive for too little payoff, and cards that may manipulate your board but don't add anything to your board like Bioshift and Power Conduit . Good luck with you brew, let me know if I can further help you out!
5 months ago
No problem! I have thought about trying to break undying mechanics by removing counters before but never actually done any serious research.
Maybe Power Conduit could work? You could stick all of the +1/+1 counters on creatures you control without undying.
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