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Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Legendary Creature — Bird Wizard
Whenever Derevi, Empyrial Tactician enters the battlefield or a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, you may tap or untap target permanent.
1GWU: Put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone.
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Derevi, Empyrial Tactician Discussion
1 day ago
MoonTurtle7 Thanks for the feedback kind sir! The commanders that intrigue me the most are Animar, Soul of Elements Trostani, Selesnya's Voice Karador, Ghost Chieftain Derevi, Empyrial Tactician to name a couple. Out of these which would you recommend? I also like the commander that brings out dragons angels or demons as well.
5 days ago
Hey etheraldreamer, Inexorable Tide is excellent, see where your going there. The reason I don't run it is simply its CMC 5, I'm hoping to already be setup with Mizzix of the Izmagnus around there. Longer term you'll get more value playing a Inexorable Tide.
Austin_Smith_of_Cards, excellent suggestions. Lava Spike + Desperate Ritual + Izzet Guildmage is an excellent kill combo. Adding it to my description above. The only part I don't like is that the Lava Spike, standalone it's not that great. Desperate Ritual although a little under powered, is still borderline playable card. Usually I prefer combos where each card is okay on it's own, but not always, see Pili-Pala.
Stroke of Genius has been on the cusp, for a long time. I keep questioning whether to get it in there or not. Visions of Beyond seems like the best remove for it, but I'm so low on Isochron Scepter targets as is. I've had 2 scenarios in 7 games now where i've had to wait 2 turns to pull an instant with CMC 2 or less for the Isochron Scepter so I know that I need more targets not less. Curious Homunculus Flip / Voracious Reader Flip is more likely.
I have Scour from Existence in my maybeboard, Purphoros, God of the Forge is a key reason why Scour from Existence is key. Chaos Warp for me just doesn't do it. In play testing I'm still trying to figure out if 1) Play for my infinite combo, or 2) Have control to stop other combos is the correct play. Thus far I haven't lost (yet, but been at 1 life). Can't remember all the commander's I've faced (No Prossh, Skyraider of Kher yet so that would be a real challenge). Some commanders: Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, Breya, Etherium Shaper (seems to be the flavor of the month right now), Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Kaalia of the Vast, Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, Karn, Silver Golem, The Gitrog Monster, can't remember any others. So verdict is till out on that. It's VERY good.
Fact or Fiction is funny, I just took it out of the deck Friday to test some other cards in it's place. I very much missed it in this weekend's games. Fact or Fiction returning to the deck soon as I figure out the removals. I'm considering removing the Isochron Scepter, that would change up a few cards that are simply there just to be targets, but then again when I think of an Isochron Scepter + Counterspell or Isochron Scepter + Mystical Tutor or Isochron Scepter + Cyclonic Rift... hmm, how do I not want that recursion, or a Visions of Beyond! = Draw 3 cards.
All Excellent suggestions, any or all should be in the deck. I'm still trying to figure out my fringe cards. Training Grounds maybe.
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
If you want a third color, go blue with Derevi, Empyrial Tactician. You get stuff like Grand Arbiter Augustin IV, Trygon Predator, Meddling Mage, etc. You go blue mostly for added utility, countermagic, and card draw. Not that many actual bears. Black and Red give you basically nothing all that amazing.
3 weeks ago
From the cards you've described, you seem a bit all over the shop. You have infintite mana combos but then have storm cards, a couple of heavy control pieces, high costed spells alongside Dark Confidant.
If you're looking to play combo (from the cards listed it feels like this is the way you're leaning) then you need to figure out a win condition, add some redundancy and then build the deck around that. Otherwise you'll end up just having a deck full of cards that can sometimes pull together a win but most of the time will just fizzle.
Also, unless you're DIRECTLY using it to win, specifically adding life gain cards is a waste of space. sure, cards like Deathrite Shaman are fine as they do something other than just gain you life, but life gain for the sake of like gain is stupid.
You have 1,000,000,000 life? That's nice take 1,000,000,001 damage. Or draw your deck plus an additional card. Or I just play Laboratory Maniac and win anyway.
Life gain means nothing when your opponents are playing combo.
If you want ETB, I would look at running Derevi, Empyrial Tactician. She will tick most of your boxes and provide a strong commander in a good colour identity.
3 weeks ago
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician is very good with tokens, but some people might target you since they assume it's a stax deck.
1 month ago
Drawing from JohnnyCrass' Tasigur Stax decklist:
Hoping to provide some constructive feedback to make the deck more competitive. :)
Sorry for replying to you here! I wanted my comments to be public enough to possibly generate discussion. Twitter's character limit, however, makes this type of commentary a little tricky.
So, first of all, I want to say that I like the general direction you're going with the decklist. is arguably the strongest combination of colours in Commander and provides a lot of tools to build stax decks with (even in the absence of hatebears). There's a few structural issues with your deck I can identify right off the bat that I hope don't discourage you too much:
- Tasigur, the Golden Fang doesn't provide much to a stax deck as the general: Typically you want your Commander to help break the symmetry of most taxing and permanent-hating cards by generating some kind of recurring value or by serving as an asymmetrical lock piece in their own right. Good examples of this principle include: Derevi, Empyrial Tactician who is able to tap or untap lands under Winter Orb, Nath of the Gilt-Leaf who is able to hate on opponents' hands and generate value in the form of elf tokens or Leovold, Emissary of Trest who is an absurdly powerful, one-sided lock piece. Tasigur, the Golden Fang gets halfway there by being able to provide value over time but this ability is extremely overcosted (particularly when paired with resource-denying stax effects) and puts too much of the decision-making in your opponents' hands for an archetype like stax (which tends to hate on the entire table simultaneously). Ultimately, Tasigur, the Golden Fang really wants to be played as a more traditional control deck with the ability to grind value and reuse specific answers almost on-demand through political maneuvering with a combo win to back it up. You might want to consider running Thrasios, Triton Hero partnered with Tymna the Weaver instead to basically replicate Tasigur, the Golden Fang while also gaining another powerful, efficient draw engine and access to hatebears for additional stax effects. If you really want to stick to (and a lot of the really fun prison effects like The Abyss don't tend to play well with hatebears anyway) then I personally think Sidisi, Brood Tyrant makes for a very interesting, fun and atypical Opposition stax commander with the potential to assemble neat combos like Mesmeric Orb with Basalt Monolith for infinite tokens and something like Earthcraft to help produce a resource asymmetry. This doesn't mean you should give up on Tasigur, the Golden Fang, however. How to break parity is just an important consideration to make when building any stax deck.
- Your taxing/lock effects aren't particularly synergistic: Running effects like Thorn of Amethyst generally demands a particular type of deck construction to insure that they are hurting others more than they hurt you. You also want to be able to start playing stax pieces early and continuously to prevent opponents from breaking out of your lock. Your deck currently runs a high density of noncreature spells for which you end up having to pay more mana. This is extremely undesirable because your deck should be the most capable of playing from underneath your assorted lock pieces. The Doomsday package, for example, becomes a lot less powerful with a couple of tax effects on the board and it becomes extremely risky with something like Arcane Laboratory out. Also, you aren't hating on many types of mana production that you easily could be such as creature-based mana (e.g. Birds of Paradise) using a card like Cursed Totem or lands using Winter Orb. In a nutshell, I can identify a few too many specific anti-synergies and I can't really identify an especially cohesive resource denial plan. If you want to discuss specific cards and interactions in greater depth, please hit us up on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/TeamTurnThree/
- Finally, you should consider the average casting cost of your cards: stax decks are not like storm decks in that they don't need to play a critical mass of spells rapidly in order to produce a win. That said, resource denial is rarely entirely asymmetrical and, as such, it's important to play a pretty lean deck if you are committed to the strategy. Again, breaking parity (which I referred to as "creating a resource asymmetry") needs to be your goal at every level. You should strongly consider cutting some of your more expensive spells in favor of stuff that will help you produce more resources than opponents or, alternatively, help you set up a board state more favorable to your shenanigans more quickly. Things like Carpet of Flowers or more mana rocks.
Again, feel free to message us on Facebook if you'd like to discuss any of these points in greater depth. We easily could--just had to keep it relatively brief on account of time constraints! Note that these suggestions are really in the context of a particular competitive EDH meta that we're used to and may not be the best advice for your specific playgroup. That said, we're always excited to discuss Commander strategy and theory. And thanks so much for checking out the videos! :)
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1 month ago
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician is my favorite commander for these colors