Creature — Specter
Flying Infect Whenever Whispering Specter deals combat damage to a player, you may sacrifice it. If you do, that player discards a card for each poison counter he or she has.
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|New Phyrexia (NPH)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Whispering Specter Discussion
3 months ago
Digging the first pass of the deck I would try to go all-in on the infect theme and ditch some of the +1/+1 counter focused cards. Would make the deck feel a lot more consistent in games played.
I also see some cards that give brokkos some form of evasion, its worth noting that brokkos already has a pseudo-evasion like effect by naturally having trample, which deters people from blocking anyways, I feel that the additional evasion effects via creatures to mutate onto seems a bit extra.
I reccomend removing these:
- Merfolk Skydiver - +1/+1 theme, its nice for a 5 mana proliferation sink but I feel its too clunky
- Pollenbright Druid - A one time proliferate is likely too cute for this deck
- Polukranos, Unchained - +1/+1 counter themed, I see the argument for mutating onto a huge creature with +1/+1 counters, but polukranos also shrinks really quickly
- Elusive Tormentor Flip is a nice unblockable threat, but we're winning by going to bash town with infect damage, rather than an unblockable 6/7
- Silhana Ledgewalker Another pseudo-unblockable threat.
- Toothy, Imaginary Friend I likely would only play this card with Pir, Imaginative Rascal, seems very off theme from what you're trying to do aside from giving itself counters.
- Yeva, Nature's Herald This card only gives your green creatures flash, I dont think its really worth it... otherwise I would be super on board
- Blighted Agent is a human and you cannot mutate onto it. I'm not sure if you want to keep it in the deck as an extra infect threat, or go all in on the mutate plan.
- Relic Putrescence feels way too narrow just for giving its controller a single poison counter
- Simic Ascendancy Is a +1/+1 card that I dont see as a viable backup plan
- Leyline of Anticipation It's nice casting things at instant speed but that isnt really the theme of the deck, if folks have instant speed removal they will likely use it anyways and this wont get you many bonus points
- Golgari Charm What is this for? Removing 1/1s? Brokkos has trample and your infect creatures might have 1 toughness... regenerating brokkos? Just mutate again..
Cards I would consider adding:
- Rot Wolf
- Whispering Specter
- Plague Myr
- Blackcleave Goblin
- Triumph of the Hordes
- Blackblade Reforged
Since you're looking for more Destroy effects, Card draw effects, and counter effects, consider the following:
- Beast Within
- Vines of Vastwood
- Deadly Rollick
- Phyrexian Arena
- Painful Truths
- Arcane Denial
- Curtains' Call
There are a few different land ramp spells I may play, but those are likely out of budget. For the remainder of the cuts I reccomend taking out the worst infect creatures, and possibly some of your land ramp spells
4 months ago
Hey, first version of Snapdax I've seen.
The double strike of Snapdax makes a mutated flying infect creature very deadly. Mutating Plague Stinger or Whispering Specter for instance. Infect is however not a fun type of deck for casual Commander, but it's an option if that's not a problem in your playgroup.
Darksteel Myr and Adanto Vanguard have indestructible protection from most removal when they mutate. Mother of Runes is repeatable protection to safely mutate or it can protect the mutated creature in combat or make it unblockable before combat.
Flying is the best other ability to pair with double strike. Needle Specter, Drana, Liberator of Malakir and Vampire Nighthawk are flying creatures to mutate. Needle has a busted combat damage trigger when it has a lot of power. Drana when she does combat damage to a player because of double strike can put two +1/+1 counters on the mutated creature as well as any other attacking creatures. Nighthawk mutates into real threat with flying, double strike, lifelink, deathtouch.
Abilities that trigger when you do combat damage to a player trigger twice with double strike. Needle Specter and Drana, Liberator of Malakir can take advantage of this so can several other cards. Mask of Memory, draws four cards and discard two cards. Azra Oddsmaker, discard one card, draw four cards and it can choose itself. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser, double strike triggers this guy twice.
Swords to Plowshares and Generous Gift are removal spells to consider adding. Open the Armory can tutor for an equipment. Exotic Orchard, Caves of Koilos, Battlefield Forge, Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, Clifftop Retreat are lands to consider adding.
Good luck with your deck.
lagotripha on Infect
11 months ago
Infect is one of those decks that can really perform even on a budget.
Nurturing Peatland is the most important non-budget land option.
Contagion clasp is too slow in this kind of deck, however since you are already leaning to more midragney value, so I'd look at a card advantage engine in those slots- gambit mainboard or something like Yawgmoth, Thran Physician . I'd also look at taking advantage of cheap hand disruption in black- its a lot easier to land Scale Up if you've just cast Duress . Creature protection is less important since you are running a lot more creatures than traditional, which means 'group' pump spells and wrath-protection should be what you are looking for. pump spells to speed up goldfish or Heroic Intervention / Duress to protect against wipes.
Vector Asp is a turn 1 infect creature that is a little weak to see standard play, but might help your curve. Since this is leaning more towards midrange, Whispering Specter is worth noting for the control matchup. Past that its looking at traditional infect or midrange tools, from Become Immense to all the card advantage spells.
1 year ago
1 year ago
I agree with a lot of the suggestions that other folks have made. I also have a Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker deck, Idle Hands, I built mine specifically around forcing discards. Whispering Specter is a great card in a Shirei deck, it creates a threat that forces people to choose what’s scarier, the commander or the discard triggered by infect damage, pair that up with things like Megrim . Raiders' Wake and Waste Not and those discards get painful! Tree of Perdition is also nice as you can, if it’s not blocked, change the entire boards life total one at a time to 13. I definitely need to follow your example and add more protection for Shirei to my deck. My most recent, and as of right untested, addition is Aether Vial , a free creature is never something to sneeze at!
1 year ago
1 year ago
Well, when going for the CMDR kill, Mesmeric Orb is the card of dreams, where other cards aren't bad, like Vicious Rumors, they don't do enough to warrant me wanting their inclusion without the commander.
What should be kept is a lot of tutors, to fetch different cards, as well as a lot of ramp. Then a reasonably large hand disruption package, and finishing the deck off with some combos, and cards that do a ton to swing the board in your favor.
Unsure of your budget, and the power level you want, here are the cards I would add to increase the competitiveness of the deck:
(On a budget? Do nothing with the lands!)
Draw: Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper, Sensei's Divining Top, Scroll Rack, and Asylum Visitor (can top cards you don't want to discard), Library of Leng (tops cards you don't want to discard again... but in a different way), Necropotence
(On a budget? use control elements like Doom Blade, and removal in black instead of stax, some of the more budget stax is okay, but generally the more layered stax the better, so the less the worse each is. Removal is a good replacement.)
Vicious Rumors, Abyssal Nocturnus, Fell Specter, Guul Draz Specter, Herald of Anguish, Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Reaver, Myojin of Night's Reach, Needle Specter, Scythe Specter, Sewer Nemesis, Stronghold Rats, Wei Night Raiders, Whispering Specter, Ghoulcaller's Bell, Darksteel Plate, Ordeal of Erebos, Raiders' Wake, Bontu's Last Reckoning, Anvil of Bogardan, Putrefaction, Painful Quandary, Megrim, Fraying Omnipotence, Rise of the Dark Realms, Torment of Hailfire, Liliana Vess.
Not sorry about the long comment ;)
1 year ago
I had a great idea when looking at Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugative INFECT! I want to run all the 1 power or less infect creatures in Blue and Green....maybe black?, in a deck and see if it works well.
Any ideas of how it should go? I pulled some ideas off of other G, U, B infect decks, but they are not quite what I want since I might skip all the white and black phyrexian spells completely.