Liliana of the Veil

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Each player discards a card.

-2: Target player sacrifices a creature.

-6: Separate all permanents target player controls into two piles. That player sacrifices all permanents in the pile of their choice.

Discussion (48)

aggro_jack on Grixis (No Shadow)

1 week ago

nice idea (bringing back old dear grixis control)...archmage is an amazing card but in a 3 color deck it stresses your mana base more than usual, so it's better to cut it out for a Terminate or maybe another copy of Fatal Push or some Thoughtseize / discard spell. Shadow of Doubt is a really cool but situational card so i could se to cut one copy and replace it with a Dress Down that could help you face saga's tokens and other creatures. i really really like the Cling to Dust in the main. Subtlety is the worse of the new elementals creatures..and is really cuttable for Fury planeswalker...jace is the perfect, but i can see a Liliana of the Veil or Liliana, the Last Hope instead of the geyadrone.

nice deck anyway! seems reall

Endo13 on Dimir Midrange

1 week ago

zapyourtumor You were right, i realized Demilich wasn't doing as much as i thought when it comes to saving mana from its 1st ability & recycling instants/sorceries from the 2nd, as i think Blink of an Eye is better in recycling them. Same case goes for Plague Engineer in the sence of its usefulness overall so took them away. Thing in the Ice  ^Flip is a fantastic card & works well in my instant/sorcery heavy deck. I added it to main, would you recommend having a playset instead of 3? Liliana of the Veil is a pretty cool card & added it to sideboard, might even place it as main after some further paytesting. Thanks for your adivce!

wallisface You were right on my land count, I was commonly facing with landpool issues so i did make my land count higher to 24 and now i dont have that problem anymore. The meta in my city & surrounding areas are really monster-heavy so that was the reason I placed heavy hitting destroy spells such as Damnation but I saw your point, as it could be more of a disadvantage than anything. Took it off the main & added only 1 on sideboard. As for Mishra's Bauble i saw it wasn't doing as much as I anticipated, but then again im a noob at MTG still & i might have been using it wrong. Tbh i dont know why Lurrus of the Dream-Den was there i must have placed it by mistake so took it off lol. In general i switched the sideboard as much as the main in order to be more consistent. Twincast is there just for the lols & it has actually made pretty funny plays, i mean 2 is always better is it not?

In general i appreciate your advice both of you, and let me know what you think on the upgrade i just did. Im a returning player that took like a 10-year hiatus from MTG because life happened and im catching up, & this was a first try to a midrange-control-ish deck that i really want to work and make it as good as can be. Thanks!

zapyourtumor on Dimir Midrange

2 weeks ago

I'm not sure this wants to be a demilich deck. Demilich functions a lot like phoenix where you want to be spamming spells, which requires a lot of cantrips and manamorphose type stuff.

Plague Engineer is not a mainboard card.

I think this deck could be decent with some Liliana of the Veil. Thing in the Ice  ^Flip may also be ok if the deck becomes more like the UB thing lists. I'm unsure about 4 murktide given that the deck doesnt have drc to turbo out a murktide quickly. Mainboard sweepers like Damnation also seem dubious if you're playing this many creatures.

DreadKhan on Most TILTING DECK

4 weeks ago

I like enchantments or planeswalkers that can repeatedly make people discard to get an engine of sorts going, so even decks with some added draw can fall victim to Racks. Bottomless Pit Necrogen Mists Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage Liliana of the Veil are a good start at clearing out people hands, while Davriel also helps close things. The Rack and Shrieking Affliction are, as noted, very good.

I also like edict effects, so a card like Smallpox might be up your ally, but you'd have to lose the higher mana value stuff. Innocent Blood is nice, Geth's Verdict or Liliana's Triumph are worth considering. I used to use Hypnotic Specter, which was fun with Dark Ritual, which can also take cards over time if you stick with creatures.

zapyourtumor on W/B 8 Rack

1 month ago

Always nice to see some 8rack, even better if its WB.

Some of my comments: Is Liliana of the Veil not here because of budget?

I don't know your local meta, but Smallpox is a great card and it also lets you discard lingering souls so I'd definitely go up to four. Wrench Mind is probably one of the worst cards here so I'd cut it to make space. If you go up to a playset of pox, you can also make better use of the WB colors by running 3-4 Flagstones of Trokair and 2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. T1 urborg + targeted discard into T2 flagstones + smallpox is backbreaking.

I'm not sure how good Prismatic Ending is in a 2 color deck. If you find that it works for you, great. If it seems like you frequently wish you had three colors, I'd probably cut it.

There's a lot of cards in WB colors that you could run to make better use of the splash. Kaya's Guile is great, also decent in the SB for grave hate and the edict effect is sometimes useful (even leyline won't save you now bogles player). Damn is a nice 1-of, but you could easily run 2-3.

Hope you find this helpful :)

TypicalTimmy on Golos Alters pls

2 months ago

Here is Tappedout's Golos alters page, but about 1/2 appear to be broken now and the rest don't quite match what you're looking for.

I found this image on Bing, because I prefer Bing over Google.

This alter isn't a card alter, but a sleeve alter you can buy Here

Here are a few more.

Unfortunately it does not appear that Golos is a popular candidate for changing his actual appearance; People prefer to change where he is wandering off to. Unlike Liliana of the Veil who has quite a few PG-13, R and X rated alters. Not that I would know... o_o"

awb422 on Jundilicious

3 months ago

Hey there, I used to play Jund in the past and this looks fairly similar to how the deck used to play. I would suggest adding Bloodbraid Elf since it benefits from your Ignoble Hierarch as well as giving you the huge advantage when you get the cascade into Kolaghan's Command. Death's Shadow is a great way to close out the game but other than self damage from lands and Thoughtseize it seems a bit difficult to justify. Dark Confidant and Liliana of the Veil make this deck want to take a more midrange approach to modern. Cards like Assassin's Trophy are great for getting rid of threats Jund normally can't but does give your opponent an additional mana which goes against the early to mid game plan. I'd recommend cutting 2 of those and maybe putting them into the sideboard to bring it at least 2 Fatal Push mainboard to deal with the heavy aggro approach most modern decks are nowadays. Hope this helps you some and keep on playing Jund!

GrimlockVIII on Jundilicious

3 months ago

Okay, this is a really weird suggestion, buuut, a card that maybe perhaps would be really cool and might actually have really neat synergy with the Death's Shadow would be Varolz, the Scar-Striped. Basically, with Varolz out, you can scavenge the Death's Shadow for one mana to put 13 plus 1 plus 1 counters on a creature. And with the way you like to discard your opponent's cards as well as your own cards with stuff like Liliana of the Veil, getting a Death's Shadow into the grave won't actually be that hard to do.

Same goes with Kroxa if you want fast and easy power without having to pay for his escape cost. You get 6 counters for 2 mana effectively.

However, Varloz would fundamentally alter the strategy of this deck, so I just thought he was a neat idea to put on standby.

If you wanna actually go down the discard route in Jund, you can get some cards that have huge payoffs for getting rid of your opponent's hand, like Waste Not, Tourach, Dread Cantor, Dauthi Voidwalker and Quest for the Nihil Stone.

Im not quite certain how you'd be able to balance out the amount of life that you would find yourself nonchalantly throwing away without accidentally killing yourself or leaving yourself open to some lightning bolts. Mana bases in these tricolor decks are definitely not my strong suit. Maybe you can afford to replace some of the dual fetch lands with a playset of Fabled Passage?

This can definitely be a scary deck if you find a particular focus and really hone in on it, but I feel like Im a little underqualified to help make this as competitive as you want it to be.