Liliana of the Veil

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Each player discards a card.

-2: Target player sacrifices a creature.

-6: Separate all permanents target player controls into two piles. That player sacrifices all permanents in the pile of their choice.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Brawl	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Standard	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

Dead_Blue_ on Returning to mtg

2 weeks ago

Mono Green Stompy or Infect

Mono Red Prowess or Burn or Hollow One

Mono Blue Delver or Affinity or Merfolk

Tron

Mono Black 8Rack or Control or Zombies

Mono White Tokens or Budget Death & Taxes

You could also build a “Boomer” deck as a lot of former staples such as Path to Exile, Snapcaster Mage and Liliana of the Veil or Tarmogoyf are dirt cheap compared to what they used to be

Chasmolinker on Mono Black Nighthawk

3 weeks ago

Hey mememan3310. First off, welcome back!

Some amount of removal is always necessary. Combo and Flying can be tough match-ups for Mono Black without enough discard/removal. 3-4 Fatal Push and 1-2 Murderous Rider are good options with 1-2 copies of Infernal Grasp I like 6-8 hard removal spells as Mono Black is typically a Mid-Range deck. Don't sleep on Gelatinous Cube either. I've stolen plenty of games with that card.

I would stick with 4 Duress and probably cut Agonizing Remorse since the only thing you really need to hit with discard in Mono-black are Non-creature spells. If you want something more versatile, Thoughtseize is your best option.

Sword-Point Diplomacy is a cute card draw spell, but they probably just let you draw the lands or irrelevant cards, (i.e. creature removal against planeswalkers). I personally prefer Sorin the Mirthless or Reckoner Bankbuster for card draw. Unwilling Ingredient is another pet favorite of mine although probably not what you should be running.

I know a lot of people run Evolved Sleeper The card just doesn't resonate with me. It often dies to removal after you've already sunk your mana into it. It reminds me of Hexdrinker in that it can be great if you max it out but getting there uninterrupted is difficult to pull off. I prefer Concealing Curtains  ^Flip and Knight of the Ebon Legion in the 1-drop spot.

Gray Merchant of Asphodel or Invoke Despair are two really solid finishers in Mono-Black. If you can swing Liliana of the Veil and Sheoldred, the Apocalypse you won't be disappointed.

There are so many good cards in Mono-Black that it is tough to squeeze everything in sometimes. 22 Lands seems too low. A single Takenuma, Abandoned Mire, Field of Ruin, and Hive of the Eye Tyrant are worth looking at as utility lands. I'd try to get 24-25 lands in there since most of the powerful Mono-Black spells fall in the 3+ MV range.

Chasmolinker on A Comprehensive Primer for Pioneer Jund Midrange

1 month ago

Looking forward to your results/thoughts on Liliana of the Veil

wallisface on Smallpox Party Funtimes

1 month ago

Dead_Blue_ as an example for Liliana of the Veil, lets say we’ve turn-2 Smallpox into turn-3 lili. Our opponent is low on lands, so they can just discard something they’d never be able to realistically cast anyway. Meanwhile we also have to discard - and what we’re losing is relevant because we need as many cards as possible to maintain the lock. She just isn’t helpful, because she’s only ever making us discard relevant cards. Ideally the opponent has a full hand they can’t use, so their discard means nothing.

Noxious Revival is definitely interesting and might be worth some playtesting - though i’m not sure what i’d drop. It might be a good reason to play less lands, but i’m not sure its worth cutting any of the existing spell suite for.

Dead_Blue_ on Smallpox Party Funtimes

1 month ago

I think you’re greatly undervaluing Liliana of the Veil but anyway

How about Noxious Revival? In addition to reoccurring answers or control pieces you can also use it to lock the opponent out of plays late game by forcing the to top deck trash or unplayables

wallisface on Smallpox Party Funtimes

1 month ago

Dead_Blue_:

• i used to run 24 lands and have actually gone down to 23. I can run a much lower land-count due to the abundance of Cling to Dust. My games are faaar more likely to end up with me being mana-flooded rather than mana-screwed.

• Liliana of the Veil would be a really bad choice for this deck, as we don’t care about our opponents hand - we’re targeting their lands so that they can’t cast stuff. Lili would only serve to let them pitch stuff they wouldn’t be able to cast anyway, while also not presenting any kind of threat. Bloodghast is much stroner in that it creates card advantage via Smallpox… and even if it does get exiled it’s still usually no big deal.

• Bitterblossom could be a consideration, though the deck can often go pretty-low on lfe before securing a win, so is probably more risk than its worth. Sword of Fire and Ice doesn’t feel particularly useful here at all tbh, we’re tying to keep the opponent oppressed, so by the time we could play it we’re prolly already in a winning position

Dead_Blue_ on Smallpox Party Funtimes

1 month ago

Consider going up to 25 lands, as a long time Pox player, Smallpox loves to be a double edged sword. I also suggest Liliana of the Veil and a more resilient threat than Bloodghast, there’s just too much Solitude & Relic of Progenitus in the meta right now. I’ve used Bitterblossom in the past but honestly I don’t know if that’s currently the right call, maybe Sword of Fire and Ice

Titus7007 on Manaform Reflections

1 month ago

The-Temur-Dreamer and Liliana of the Veil