Liliana of the Veil

Planeswalker — Liliana

+1: Each player discards a card.

-2: Target player sacrifices a creature.

-6: Separate all permanents target player controls into two piles. That player sacrifices all permanents in the pile of their choice.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Alchemy	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Pre-release	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Standard	Legal
Standard Brawl	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

Necramus on Oh My Gizzard, It's a Zombie Wizard (Nekusar)

4 months ago

Andramalech Thanks for the love!! He's one of my all-time favorites. I've taken this deck apart on 3 separate occasions, and continue to come back to him. Lol!

So, I didn't appreciate Monument to Endurance at first. But, I realized with Chains of Mephistopheles, Anvil of Bogardan, Liliana of the Veil, Rankle, Master of Pranks, and almost every Wheel making me discard, I can get some great value off this single card investment. Also, I'm not on any Reliquary Tower type effects. So, sometimes I just need to discard to hand size, and I may as well benefit from it!

I'm eager to do some play testing with it to see how it goes. It may not forever live in Nekusar, but I'm willing to give it the good ol' college try. :)

legendofa on Lotus Petal vs. Chrome Mox

4 months ago

Not competitive (especially Legacy), but I'm an 8-Rack enthusiast.

Setting up fast is important. Once you have your Rack lock set up, at least in my experience, you only really need a couple mana each turn, so the mana from that Chrome Mox might be less valuable than the card that got imprinted. Especially with a set of Dark Rituals, it should be easy to set at least one Rack effect and a Hymn to Tourach or Thoughtseize on turn 1 and build with 1-2 mana a turn from there, with a little burst for Liliana of the Veil or Ensnaring Bridge or whatever as needed.

So my vote's for the Lotus Petal. Prioritizing your denial and removal seems more important than a guaranteed extra {B} each turn, but I'd be very interested to see how well it works in practice.

jawz on Wr Hare Raising

4 months ago

Strong suggestion. The Hare Apparent decks I was seeing that went with red support were all using Warleader's Call pretty much. It kinda speeds up the clock from what I can tell. It's pretty obvious synergy.

I talked myself into Nahiri's Resolve instead. The Call seemed like it was getting in the way on turn 3. If I have Hares or Scoundrels in hand at the same time I feel like I don't want to wait an extra turn to get them out just to get a Call out first.

Like, if I put a Hare out on turn 2 and then a Call out on turn 3, I find like I'm in a bad board state against pretty much any of the good decks that have power turns on 3. For example, maybe a Liliana of the Veil comes down and bins my Hare and then I'm way behind.

But if instead I Hare on 2 and then Hare on 3 plus a token, I feel like that's better. Sure it's not that strong, but often I can afford to chump block with the token and have enough left on turn 4 to convoke out a Knight-Errant or Raise some Hares back from the graveyard, then on turn 5 with a Resolve in hand instead of the Call I have options to play more Hares if I need immediate board state, or play the Resolve to start grinding.

Yes the Call sets up extra damage, but the Resolve's +1 power buff also sets up extra damage. If the game goes long, a big Raise the Past combos immediately with Call, but also combos fairly quickly with Resolve too.

I kinda feel the Resolve gives roughly equivalent value for the Call, but also gets out of the way on turn 3, and gives better late game play when you need to be in defensive chump blocking mode in the early turns.

But who knows.

DemonDragonJ on Innistrad Remastered Speculation and Wishlist

5 months ago

Previews for Innistrad remastered have begun, so here is a link to what has been revealed, thus far; some of the cards are not surprising, such as Emrakul, the Promised End, Liliana of the Veil, Blood Artist, Archangel Avacyn  ^Flip, or Edgar Markov, but others are more so, such as Mass Hysteria, so I hope that the majority of the cards in this set are cards that players wish to be reprinted.

I hope that the original version of Avacyn, Avacyn, Angel of Hope shall be reprinted, along with Bruna, Light of Alabaster, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and Sigarda, Host of Herons, and it also would be nice to have either version of Liesa reprinted, as well.

I heard that the "slow lands" (i.e., Deathcap Glade, Sundown Pass, and so forth) may be reprinted, and it would be nice, but I still would prefer to see reprints of the enym-colored "check lands" (i.e., Hinterland Harbor, Isolated Chapel, and so forth), since the original printings of those cards are the only printings that feature the original artwork and are also available in foil.

What cards are other players, here, hoping to see, in this set?

BioProfDude on Standard Golgari Gotcha

7 months ago

Bookrook, Anoint with Affliction exiles instead of destroys, so I prefer that in the main.

Replacing Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor with Liliana of the Veil is a possibility, but I really like the card draw we get from Gix. That's just such a strong advantage over Lili. I may miss her -2, though, so we'll see.

Yeah, Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal  ^Flip is a good card, but I think we get more by trying to keep the mana curve a bit lower. Even in the previous build, I usually ended up holding Aclazotz in hand so I could do other things. Thus, he's not really missed, to be honest. He seemed like the easiest card to cut, at least in my style of play.

Apoptosis on Wheel in the Sky

8 months ago

Updated!

Out are cards that help opponents or don't have ideal synergy or add to the major mechanics: Anvil of Bogardan, Horn of Greed, Dictate of Kruphix, Howling Mine, Temporal Mastery, Time Warp, Smoke, Sign in Blood, Mystic Retrieval, Dismal Backwater, Doom Blade, Damnable Pact.

In (reanimation theme and some targets for reanimation): Exhume (not 100% on this one), Soul Exchange (idealy would want one that could target all graveyards), Dance of the Dead, Animate Dead, Liliana of the Veil, Necromancy, Sire Of Insanity (bomb that minimizes opponent's ability to profit from the wheel), Mangara's Tome (I love this as a way to stack all of my reanimation cards, or anything else that I want to protect from my own wheel effects. Curious to see how it plays. The sceptor is included for the same reason), Sepulchral Primordial, Diluvian Primordial, and Molten Primordial.

Need to get an Academy Ruins.

Predator_90 on Grixis Cruel Control

8 months ago

As a grixis deck i think you should run some discard, which is an excellent thing in control deck, cards like Thoughtseize and Liliana of the Veil are almost mandatory. Also Drown in the Loch is exceptional and i'm a fan of Expressive Iteration. I have a more for fun build (Which still aims of being competitive tho) for grixis control, if you wanna check it: Bolas-friends Control

Asder on Zombies of the Winter Moon

1 year ago

Theres a lot of hand disruption, could be worth cutting down on some of that for a bomb like Liliana of the Veil or Sheoldred, the Apocalypse. Also could be worth looking at Case of the Stashed Skeleton instead of Grim Tutor.