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Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste At the beginning of the end step, return Archwing Dragon to its owner's hand.
Archwing Dragon Discussion
1 month ago
Archwing Dragon Might be a sweet addition, it allows you to generate tokens with your commander without "wasting" any cards in your hand, since it bounces itself, allowing you to play it again and triggering it again.
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2 months ago
You might want to consider Barrage of Boulders, what it doesn't kill cant block if you have Combat Celebrant on the field. Dangerous Wager is a massive risk, it isn't even used in Hollow One, you have a low'ish curve maybe Magmatic Insight or go for the classics Faithless Looting and Cathartic Reunion. If you are feeling punishing you could also try Risk Factor, you don't have enough spells to leverage Bedlam Reveler, on that note, the same is probably true for Young Pyromancer. This deck might be better running something like Hell's Thunder, Thunderblust or Archwing Dragon. Anyway that is just some quick thoughts, I like the idea of this deck and somehow I missed Tilonalli's Skinshifter, which stikes me as interesting, so good luck with your brew and I hope this comment was of help.
3 months ago
Gosh, that's a tough one. Your whole creaturebase basically have their own individual roles in the deck that I'm afraid that you might be lacking something by cutting any of them. I think if you have to choose one of these, try to find room for Lightning Shrieker because Archwing Dragon isn't as recurring, although it's still nice to pull out a 4/4 flyer for 3 CMC from your deck onto the battlefield, swing with it, and send it to your hand at the end of your turn. It's a really tough call and I can't say for certain with confidence because I can't help but feel as if cutting a slot or two down might remove some value you might be missing otherwise. I say play it out a bit for a while as is, and get a feel for what you find to be underwhelming or dead draws in practice and go from there. I'll be toying with my own list based on this one for a while too, so I hope I can give you some better feedback in the next few days! Cheers!
3 months ago
Shock is just a worse Lightning Bolt. I don't think any of those are incredibly necessary considering many of your dragons have innate abilities to deal damage for removal purposes. Although Skred is a thing you may find spicy to find a use for your Snow-Covered Mountains.
Honestly, Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast are two of my all time favorite cards and prove to be useful red counterspells against a pesky blue player. It really just comes down to a meta call, and I personally would continue running them.
What are your thoughts on stuff like Lightning Shrieker and Archwing Dragon? With Shrieker you can have a tutorable 5/5 flyer with haste and trample every turn for Zirilan's ability since it continuously goes back to your deck at the end of turn while Archwing simply goes to your hand. Inherent abilities like that to avoid being exiled may prove to be extremely useful in this deck in case you aren't pulling your Sundial or Stylus. Just some things to think about to play around with a bit.
5 months ago
There's a couple cards in here I'm not very sure synergise overly well with your commander and overall theme. I feel most of these are within you artifact list. Conjurer's Closet only works with 4 dragons and doesn't work if you "cheat it" out with Scion of the Ur-Dragon since he is already out on the battlefield. Rings of Brighthearth also doesn't really fit as there is only 5 creature cards, 2 enchantments, and 4 artifacts it synergises with, now of which are overly amazing, the best card it would work with it imo Hellkite Charger. It just seems like a dead drop a lot of the time. Cradle of Vitality also doesn't really fit as theres only 3 cards it would work with. Time Warp is another off card as it is the only instance that you have an extra turn card. As for the dragons themselves theres a couple questionable additions as well. Most notably Archwing Dragon, Prossh, Skyraider of Kher and Draco. I feel theres many other better dragon you could throw in that will have a better lasting effect. Overall you have a very high costing deck and you should consider replacing some other artifacts and some of these other cards for better mana acceleration as this seems like it could be an extremely slow deck especially for a 5 colour deck. Exploration, Burgeoning, Dragon's Hoard, Darksteel Ingot, Manalith and many other mana rocks would probably serve you better than a card like Door of Destinies. Another great add it you could have which synergises well with you commander would be Rise of the Dark Realms as dragon decks like this are very prone to board wipes.
6 months ago
6 months ago
Thanks for the feedback clayperce!
- I've actually looked into adding one of the Sarkhan planeswalkers to the deck since he's a bit of a dragon manic. But I'm currently looking at Sarkhan, Dragonsoul from the M19 planeswalker decks. It feels better to buy a complete deck with a planeswalker in it than buying a single card for the same price.
- Taurean Mauler looks amazing and I'm definitely going to replace Dragon Egg with it. Since Taurean Mauler is every creature type should it still trigger Dragon Tempest and benefit from Dragonlord's Servant right?
- I've looked over these lands in the past but I've refrained from adding them to the deck due to their price tag. I actually have a private "deck/card list" here on Tappedout that contains cards I've looked at in the past and liked, but not added to a deck for one reason or another and the lands you suggested are saved in that list. Although Game Trail wasn't that expensive so I'll consider adding a few of those. Temple of Abandon would probably be better than Timber Gorge if nothing else.
- I've been meaning to add some kind of legendary dragon to the deck but like you say I'm not sure either what I would take out. Although I think I would prefer Lathliss, Dragon Queen over Verix Bladewing as it would combo nicely with my favourite, Archwing Dragon.
Thanks again for the feedback and suggestions!
6 months ago
Sneak Attack reasonable cost and pretty cheap to cheat dragons from hand, i never tried because i don't like so much the idea of losing them, but it is something that caught my attention.
God-Pharaoh's Gift Don't like the cost, but the ability is interesting, i didn't even knew this card, thanks for showing, but i think the problem is losing it for the discard hand mechanics or not having the mana for casting it once it is exiled.
Etali, Primal Storm Pretty good, but not a dragon lol, i'm going to get all the non dragons out as soon as they get better dragons.
Warp World Know the effect well, avoiding this kind of cost.
Archwing Dragon For many times i get him in and out, because i hate when i loose him to the discard mechanics.
Cathartic Reunion, Sunbird's Invocation and many options for "draw" in red i already used, the thing is i made the deck low costa dragons exactly for Grafted Skullcap, Avaricious Dragon and Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker.
going to see your deck right now, thanks for the tips.
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