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Deadly Rollick Discussion
4 days ago
I enjoy playing competitive EDH and one of the recently spoiled Strixhaven cards I already know is going to shake-up my meta and make things difficult for me. Namely Witherbloom Apprentice is the card I'm dreading as it can close out a game if it's controller casts Chain of Smog as it can be copied infinitely if the controller always targets themself with it. It's very likely every BGx deck in my play group is going to run this combo given how easy it is to setup and when you pair the possibility of closing out the game on turn two through Dark Ritual or Sol Ring into a mana rock, it becomes a lethal threat I can't ignore when making deck building decisions. As such, I feel I need to add another one mana creature removal spell in my deck, but I'm stumped over which spell I should include not just to address this potential combo but also have the most practical use outside of it as well.
My current list of removal spells are: Path to Exile , Swords to Plowshares , Sinister Concoction , Dismember , Lightning Axe , Molten Vortex , Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast and Terminate (I enjoy playing more reactively than proactively.)
The removal spells I'm considering are: Dark Betrayal , Fatal Push , Human Frailty , Lightning Bolt , Magma Spray , Weight of Spires and Seal of Fire . (The last one I'm considering for its use around counterspells by casting it early.)
Notable exclusions are: Deadly Rollick , Defile , Dispatch , Force of Despair , Galvanic Blast , Murderous Cut , Mutual Destruction , Necrotic Wound , Pyrokinesis , Reckless Rage , Skred and Tragic Slip as I feel I don't have the means to meet these card restrictions consistent enough to be useful in my deck, especially in the early game. I'm also not considering two mana removal spells like Go for the Throat because I feel at this point cost effectiveness matters more than removal range.
Of course the best removal spell is going to depend heavily on the meta, but I'm generally trying to figure out which of the spells I'm considering is the best in a competitive environment in general. I'm looking for feedback and second opinions on whether you think any of the spells shines well above the rest through your own play experiences. I appreciate any insight I can get, thanks.
2 weeks ago
Hey! Your decklist looks great, it has all of the essential parts down pat (cheap/evasive creatures, powerful ninjas and lots of topdeck manipulation). You could definitely play it as-is, even if it's been a while! But I also want to mention some ideas that I have for potential cuts/additions:
Deep-Sea Kraken : Very unlikely to hard cast, and you can probably win the game before removing all its suspend counters. Instead, you could play Blinkmoth Infusion or Draco , which are equally uncastable, but deal more damage.
Conspiracy and Xenograft : I played these for a long time, but ended up cutting them in favour of more extra turn spells, which are more consistent for closing out the game. My favourites to play in Yuriko are Temporal Mastery which can easily be a Time Walk , and Temporal Trespass which can be cast for UUU, but deals 11 damage.
Bolas's Citadel : A bit of a nonbo in Yuriko decks, which generally want to play super-efficient, high cmc spells. I don't have a direct replacement in mind, but I'll include more suggestions at the end.
Massacre and Toxic Deluge : Yuriko needs creatures on the board more than most decks, so I generally don't play boardwipes that destroy creatures. I prefer to play something like Evacuation or Devastation Tide so I don't lose them permanently.
Teferi's Veil : I'm kinda unsure how this synergizes with Yuriko. Could you let me know if I'm missing something? I'm not super familiar with phasing.
Universal Automaton : A very simple, yet effective ninja
Sorry this got so long, I hope all of my points made sense! Feel free to let me know what you think! Thanks again for the kind words about my primer!
3 weeks ago
Last couple topics,
I made an assumption and grouped Draw above Damage, and Deathtouch above Token.
Deathtouch 16%, Control 16%, Damage/Life 15%, Recursion 8%, Token 6%, Draw 6%, Discard 2%, Ramp 2%, Land 29%
Further on Card Advantage (which includes draw):
I know why your doing it and the thought process behind it, but here's an alternative perspective.
Your cards like Blood Divination , Costly Plunder , Pitiless Pontiff , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest are usually paired with LTB effect (like your damage/life and afterlife abilities), more along lines of Grave Pact (Also Dictate of Erebos , Butcher of Malakir , Dark Prophecy , Nightmare Shepherd , Etc.) or Reveillark / Academy Rector types.
The issue is Blood Divination why not Necropotence ( Greed ) for CMC1 less, and no sacrifice, let's you refill your hand anytime, Grim Haruspex /Etc. Why Spark Harvest / Bone Splinters over Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile or Mortify or even Bloodchief's Thirst / Generous Gift if your after planeswalkers.
So how are creatures getting into the graveyard, if your not sacrificing them along with other effects, a value engine!! Skullclamp is a necessity, Viscera Seer is strong, Phyrexian Altar (this card is cEDH level though), more things like Priest of Forgotten Gods & Ayara, First of Locthwain . Why sacrifice a deathtouch creature to LTB damage/life when you can Corpse Knight instead and get the value up front? Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Village Rites is ok because its CMC1 and Instant, you don't need tutor in battlecruiser/low (up to power 5), but cards like Diabolic Intent which also feed into things like Mausoleum Secrets are value. Ashnod's Altar , Doom Foretold , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , etc.
Key is value in / value out. Don't waste the value out just to enable your recursion. Value-in, Value-out, then recur. More Immortal Servitude (battlefield), less Soul Salvage (hand). Reanimate / Animate Dead (anyone's graveyards), Unburial Rites , Victimize , Agadeem's Awakening Flip, Revival / Revenge , Command the Dreadhorde , Blood for Bones .
Kinda touched on it, in previous. Control 16% is quite a bit, inline with power level. If you replace Ashen Rider , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest . Some should become the "sac outlets", like Skullclamp / Viscera Seer and some just better interactions (Instant speed whenever possible). Anguished Unmaking , Utter End , Swords to Plowshares , Merciless Eviction , Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple (Better Fleshbag Marauder unless your utilizing the Zombie part), Shriekmaw , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , Deadly Rollick , Dire Tactics , Hagra Mauling Flip, Unmake there's lots.
If you want to jump on a teams chat or anything when you have some time happy to help, just discord chat me, hopefully something that helps you focus this deck to a 4-5
3 weeks ago
Hello! I commented on your Reddit post as well and just happened to find this browsing Tapped Out. I would start to focus working out your curve. Also, Lightning Bolt is efficient but it is extremely limited in its effectiveness in commander being only able to destroy creatures with creatures three toughness or less. I would argue that Terminate is better if you're on a budget and Deadly Rollick is best here as you're constantly looking to have your commander out. I believe Naturalize can be replaced by Krosan Grip or Nature's Claim . Often, artifacts will have powerful activated abilities that you can avoid with Krosan Grip . Also, split-second does circumvent countermagic which is key when stopping a combo or engine.
4 weeks ago
Pyramid of the Pantheon
I would cut these to start.
Add in Arcane Signet, if not more artifact ramp. You don't have a lot and since you are leaning heavy into artifacts you can get away with running some more mana expensive ones, like Dreamstone Hedron or Gilded Lotus.
Another huge issue that I see is that you are in black and not running any tutors or staple black cards. Consider Toxic Deluge , Demonic Tutor , Deadly Rollick , Dark Confidant , Phyrexian Arena , Aetherflux Reservoir + Bolas's Citadel ,or even Blightsteel Colossus .
Bond of Agony can also be a fun one. As soon as you have a life advantage over everyone you can just win the game.
1 month ago
I tried making a list of creatures alone to cut but it's too large. Basically, the majority of your creatures cost too much and their effects are not worth the cost you are paying. Moreso, the effects don't seem to interact with each other.
For example, you have some token based effects such as Drana Liberator, blood artist, ayara, but not enough token producers in the deck despite grave titan and wurmcoil. Bloodgift, burning and archfiend are all subpar demons that don't matter to an infect strategy. Tymaret is not the best grave yard hate piece in black.
Before I give you a long list of potential cards, do note, you need to work on black's weakness of interacting with artifacts and enchantments. I will create options for that in another comment later, if you are interested in that lmk. Now for potential suggestions....
Sword of Truth and Justice - Synergy, protection. Not needed but fun
Magus of the Coffers - Ramp rarely hurts. Lack of haste, weak body makes it less playable, but ramp is needed after they kill your commander a few times
Murderous Rider - Removal
Nirkana Revenant - Ramp, this and magus, while expensive, actually help you cast the other spells you need (Draw, removal, etc...) as opposed to having a cool creature that doesn't give you the best benefit
Dread Presence - Draw/removal
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - Another target for removal aside from your commander
Vampiric Tutor - Tutor, not needed but helpful
Malakir Rebirth Flip/ Supernatural Stamina - Oh no, you destroyed my commander, whatever will I do....ooh, nice ETB creature you killed, Eminem's guess whose back plays. Notice how these 2 cards help mitigate a large weakness of the deck, commander removal.
Soul Shatter - Removal
Swiftfoot Boots - Not needed, but redundancy rarely hurts
Opposition Agent - Nice fetchland, tutor, ramp spell, etc...
War Room - Draw in a pinch
Feed the Swarm - Removal that targets enchantments, one of black's weaknesses
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician - Not needed, but profilerate is cool if you can't close out through combat
These are just general suggestions that have some immediate impact of being strictly better than current cards included as well as more synergistic.
1 month ago
Hey Profet93, I am in fact the same guy with the Tinybones deck.
Thanks for your suggestions, I will take your advice and swap out Tithe for Land Tax , and Exotic Orchard for Forbidden Orchard , as soon as I obtain copies of them. I like Tithe because I can cast it on the opponent’s turn for an immediate payoff, but Land Tax is reusable, and I get a better payoff when it triggers. I had been hesitant to run Forbidden over Exotic Orchard, since my meta is creature-heavy, and my opponent can take advantage of the token. But I’m going to try running it and see what happens.
1 month ago
Hey XinZhao, lately I have been too busy with work to play, so I can’t tell you whether I would rather keep Deadly Rollick or swap it for Deflecting Swat . I appreciate your input, I will consider that the next time I play and I’ll let you know!
Regarding Ravages of War , yes it is pricey, I just happen to come across one many years ago. As an alternative I would definitely suggest Impending Doom . I used to run it in a previous version of this build and I considered making room for it in this current version. The pros are that it is only 2 mana, and in a multiplayer game it can be triggered very early on. The cons are that it takes until your next upkeep to resolve, and the other players can see it coming and it could get removed. Personally I don’t like Catastrophe because it is too expensive mana-wise, but it does have its uses as an alternative Wrath, if you think this will be advantageous in your meta.