Melira, Sylvok Outcast
Legendary Creature — Human Scout
You can't get poison counters.
Creatures you control can't have -1/-1 counters placed on them.
Creatures your opponents control lose infect.
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Melira, Sylvok Outcast Discussion
2 months ago
I liked your deck, great work! +1
2 months ago
I ran a quick Gatherer search for ["enters the battlefield" + "counter" + "NOT +1/+1" + "NOT Energy" + "Creature"] and skimmed through it. The search was a bit over-inclusive, but was short enough to quickly read.
You can run that search to get more options, but I pulled out some notable choices--the below creatures have abilities above and beyond simply being "Vanilla/French vanilla with an ETB downside" (no other abilities, or just an evergreen ability).
- Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle
- Chronozoa - used with Solemnity and a sacrifice engine, you can build an infinite army of these guys (or just win outright if your sacrifice engine hurts opponents).
- Look into creatures with Persist, such as Kitchen Finks or Murderous Redcap . Combined with a sacrifice engine and Solemnity/ Melira, Sylvok Outcast , you'll be able to go infinite.
- Lost Auramancers can find you Solemnity, so you can get extra bang for your Vampire Hexmage buck if you target Auramancers.
Otherwise, you're mostly looking at creatures that enter the battlefield smaller and grow bigger.
3 months ago
Hey Patrick, just wanted to say I love the content you're putting out, and you've really inspired me to start to look into Higher Power/cEDH decks to build for myself, my first high powered deck last year actually being a budget version of your Teshar list. Your videos are on repeat for me either in the background while I write papers. I would love to join the Patreon and support you, but I barely have enough funds to play magic even right now so that's out of the picture. All I can offer to you is my thanks is the statement that you're probably my favorite MTG YouTuber!
Please don't feel like you have to read any of the following, it's just my ramblings/a few questions but it may be a long read so I won't be offended if you don't read it, as I know you don't typically keep budget cards in mind persay. Also hey, if leaving a comment can maybe help this awesome deck of yours to get more traction/attention on tappedout for whatever reason, even better.
I've been building my own Belbe list over the last few days and I had a few questions about potential cards to include? I don't always play in a cEDH meta really but have some really close to cEDH decks like a more 75% Brago, a Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator + Vial Smasher the Fierce Curiosity control, and Godo Helm fairly often. I'm hoping to transition more towards cEDH in general and with this deck in particular.
As a college student with no real source of income right now I'm a bit low on funds and we don't typically use proxies in my group, so I don't particularly know if this is a good spot to ask about budget alternatives to the Mike Trike combo, but I figured I might as well give it a shot. I've watched the Cold Brew and the deck tech, but if I forget if you mentioned something from them I apologize when asking about a few cards. Do you have any particularly budget combos you would suggest that maybe you tried during testing? I recall you talking about Gravecrawler loops in the Cold Brew, and I'm thinking of maybe some of those combos as with the Bontu's Monument , Pitiless Plunderer and Carrion Feeder (already in my list) would be a solid win I feel.
Currently I'm mainly running a Protean Hulk line of Disciple of the Vault , Carrion Feeder / Viscera Seer , Melira, Sylvok Outcast , and Lesser Masticore for infinite drain. My meta doesn't run much GY hate so I'm feeling decent with this, but losing one piece usually leads to waffling out. I know you mentioned a Phyrexian Delver line so I may look more into that, maybe getting it and and a one drop sac outlet first plus Putrid Goblin / Blood Artist with the leftover mana for the second Hulk trigger? I'm unsure if that's way too clunky, but I'll have to see.
My back up win is currently a Necrotic Ooze line or two, but not Triskelion / Phyrexian Devourer lines as both together are like, over $60 which is money I can't really shell out right now. Right now I'm doing Devoted Druid + Channeler Initiate and Priest of Titania + Pili-Pala lines for infinite mana of any color. Only current outlet I really have is Walking Ballista , which while good, I can't always rely on with all the artifact hate in my groups. I was thinking of adding more creature outlets maybe as they're easier for me to tutor (only black tutor I have is Diabolic Intent since I was able to trade up for one) Perhaps Ezuri, Renegade Leader since I have Belbe and other dorks (10 Elves Total) or Kamahl, Fist of Krosa as overrun effects that I can sink infinite into? Or maybe something like Tergrid, God of Fright Flip to use the back side for an infinite Torment of Hailfire effect?
There were also one or two cards I wanted to ask you about, just to see if you thought they were decent enough to run in the list.
Bolas's Citadel is something I'm trying to run in my current list. It's been fairly diffuclt to get out with 3 black pips, but with Dark Ritual (which may be cut soon I'm unsure) it's been a nice thing to have, especially when I've been testing Aetherflux Reservoir with it? Maybe add a Sensei's Divining Top (something out of my budget in general, but I do have someone willing to trade me one) for a storm win? I feel like that could be a cool win con that makes use of colorless mana, and the pieces in general aren't bad outside the combo? I do think that with the high CMC of the deck, I will take a ton of damage of Citadel, but I think hitting a few pingers/dorks in a row and just gaining some life might be good actually? I'd love some feedback on that.
Decree of Pain has been working wonders for me. I know Culling Ritual was a godsend, and its a very amazing card in Belbe, but if my meta is very creature dependant I thought I needed more mass removal than just Ugin, the Spirit Dragon and Culling Ritual . Toxic Deluge is a bit out of my range right now, so I was trying this and even if it is mana intensive, I think it's a very good card depending on your meta since it can be Cycled for 5 to kill all 2 or less tougness things? The cycling saved me once or twice against a Najeela deck with counter magic known to the table to be up. On the other hand while it costs 8, I've mostly payed for it with Belbe mana and drawn upwards of 6 cards off it.
Chalice of the Void I was able to trade for this and have been enjoying putting it on 0 for the Underworld Breach lines the Malcolm list uses in particular, or to even shut off some 3 cmc commanders after getting Belbe mana. Would it be better to trade this for another stax piece or two such as Static Orb or tanglewire?
Sorry for the long post. I hope you have a good day!
4 months ago
With cards such as Solemnity and Melira, Sylvok Outcast out there, resistance to counters is an inevitable problem. That is why I suggest cards with just poison as the ability such as Sabertooth Cobra and Virulent Sliver in addition to what you already have. These cards offer regular life loss as well as poison counters so its not an immediate capitulation if Solemnity or MSO enter the battlefield. While it doesn't specifically say poison, Fynn, the Fangbearer can give creatures with deathtouch, poison 2. You can boost this ability by adding Archetype of Finality to your deck.
Another card I hope you will consider is Ram Through . Since creatures with trample place their remaining damage after killing a creature onto a player, this will add extra poison counters--especially if they have infect and deathtouch.
Plus, in case one of your opponents grabs one of your creatures, you may want to consider any combination of Nesting Grounds and Power Conduit to remove -1/-1 counters and/or move around +1/+1 counters.
Another land to take into consideration is Karn's Bastion since it allows Proliferation.
5 months ago
I'd suggest adding Melira, Sylvok Outcast in order to have infinite sac and ETBs
6 months ago
7 months ago
Thanks for the Upvote! This deck is still a bit of a Work in progress as I am still making some major changes to it and testing it out.
I opted not to put in Sabertooth mainly because 1. I think the Dockside combo is a little too reliant on Opponents boardstates and 2. with Korvold can become risky unless I am trying to draw into my Combo Pieces. Lastly, 3. I already have an ETB deck with Yarok (I still need to update it though, lol).
I think, for the moment, Mikaeus is a little too costly for what it wants to do. Like, as an overall card its good, but Im not adding Mike and Trike to the deck since I have pretty clear Lines of Play and how to win between all the treasures, Korvold, combos, etc. Plus, as my mana curve will show... I already have a LOT of cards in the 5 mana slot, and thats ideally when I wanna play Korvold. I think if I am purely just trying to do the combo, I would add in Melira, Sylvok Outcast just so I wouldnt have to worry about the persist counters to begin with, No more infect, AND It only costs 2 mana. Its a card I am really debating on throwing in here, so I highly recommend it.