Artifact Creature — Horror
Psychosis Crawler's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand.
Whenever you draw a card, each opponent loses 1 life.
Printings View all
|Commander 2020 (C20)||Rare|
|Commander 2018 (C18)||Rare|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Rare|
|Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2)||Rare|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Phyrexia (MBP)||Rare|
Combos Browse all
- Mind Over Matter + Psychosis Crawler + Temple Bell
- Consecrated Sphinx + Fascination + Psychosis Crawler
- Curiosity + Psychosis Crawler
- Anje Falkenrath + Psychosis Crawler
- Curiosity + Laboratory Maniac + Psychosis Crawler
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Psychosis Crawler occurrence in decks from the last year
Latest Decks as Commander
Psychosis Crawler Discussion
1 week ago
Hey no worries OatmealBear, happy to help!
You nailed it on the first question. Originally I was making a mill deck with Kami of the Crescent Moon and all of those kinds of cards, but I think thats its own dedicated strategy, not really a group hug thing. You can certainly include group draw cards in that style of deck to get extra triggers and draw your opponents through their decks even faster too, but I don't think they go in the friendlier soft-control style we're going for here. People see Kwain and their first thought is, "That seems kinda underpowered and totally innocent...how are they trying to break it?" And the point of this deck is, for us at least, we're not trying to break him, we're just playing him as nothing but a straight up helpful good boy. But as soon as you play something like Psychic Corrosion, they think exactly: "Ah, that's what their gameplan is. Its a mill deck," and the jig is up. Kinda hard to play innocent after that. Otherwise with our deck, if you don't specifically know about the Smothering Tithe+Prosperity combo, you could search our whole deck and have no idea what our win condition is, it just looks like a pile of friendly group hug cards and some removal and counterspells. I think a card draw/mill deck is definitely doable, but you're probably better off going with Bruvac the Grandiloquent or Kami of the Crescent Moon and hard committing to the strategy. You can even still run the combo in mono-blue now thanks to Hullbreacher, which was originally going to be my plan until they spoiled Kwain and I got hella excited, lol.
As for Mirrodin Besieged, you'd have to play a lot more artifacts to make it work. If you're just using if for the card draw, we have enough strictly better options that don't make us discard so we don't really need it, and I don't think we have enough artifact spells to capitalize off of making Myr tokens or enough atifacts to be able to get enough artifacts into our grave for the alternate win condition. Just not sure what it really does for us. If you're just looking to make some tokens to chump block with, Nadir Kraken and Chasm Skulker are great at that, but I cut them because they can get awful huge and threatening and draw unnecessary aggro toward us. Oneirophage, Toothy, Imaginary Friend, and Psychosis Crawler are kinda the same, people see them and go "Aha, THAT'S your win condition!" and immediately want to blow it up so that you don't even become a problem. Hence, I cut them. No threats, no worries!
As for Windfall, I think its value is somewhat diminished for us in our deck. We tend to hold a full hand of cards most of the time with all our extra drawing, and Windfall gets the best value after you've played out your hand and can capitalize on discarding maybe 1 or 2 cards to draw 6 or 7 off an opponent. However, when everyone has full hands, its usually not card advantage anymore, its basically just a one-time Teferi's Puzzle Box except we have to discard everything in our hand, some things we might have prefered to keep, and instead draw a whole new hand blind. It can sort of be a win condition on its own in the late game if you've built up a sizeable enough hand that a Windfall might just mill everyone out, but for that, you'll need to have Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Laboratory Maniac to win when you draw out. I found myself a lot of times with more cards in my hand than in my deck and less cards in my deck than in my opponents, and neither of the two alt win-cons, so Windfall didn't do me any good at all. They literally project "Hi, I'm a win condition", and they aren't any good on their own, so they tended to end up dead in my hand, so I just ended up cutting them and relying on the other win conditions instead.
Hope that helps! Lemme know if you have any other cards you're considering, I've probably thought about them to, and I'm happy to share my thoughts!
1 week ago
Thanks for the explanation TotesMcGoats! That makes a lot of sense and I hadn't considered that Kwain gives opponents some life back each time you use the ability. I also really like the flexibility of running those clones, great point there.
- I'm guessing it's the same rationale of appearing friendly and not drawing any attention or hate, but would you consider running draw pain or mill cards like Psychosis Crawler or Psychic Corrosion?
- What about Windfall?
- Lastly, I think it could be an option for when you get down to that one on one situation you mentioned, but what are your thoughts on Mirrodin Besieged?
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to think through the build options and you seem to have put a lot of thought into this already!
2 weeks ago
This one is pretty convoluted... Nadir Kraken + Sage of the Falls + Arcane Adaptation + Life and Limb + Samut, Tyrant Smasher + Psychosis Crawler. Play Arcane Adaptation naming Saproling, then with all the cards on the field, draw a card, probably through Sage of the Falls. Psychosis triggers, dealing 1 damage, pay 1 with a creature to Nadir Kraken, put a Tentacle onto the battlefield. Sage of the Falls triggers, drawing a card. Psychosis triggers, dealing 1 damage, pay 1 with the Saproling Tentacle to create another Saproling Tentacle etc... Samut just provides haste so any card works there, although Samut keeps it 2 colors
3 weeks ago
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor Unfortunately this deck was a challenge that specified that I couldn't have any cards over a dollar in the deck. These were great ideas though, and I somehow hadn't even considered Psychosis Crawler, but I am simply unable to put them in the deck. I am also aware of the high coverted mana cost; sphinxes are not the cheapest of creatures and I am considering cutting a few sphinxes to even out the mana curve.
3 weeks ago
I guess I missed Siani being spoiled, but these two partners have awesome synergy. You might consider adding in Gravitational Shift as a way to get more damage through and to blunt ground attacks. 1-2 of Laboratory Maniac, Thassa's Oracle, or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries could be a good additional win-con since you will be drawing a ton of cards. Or you could try the good ol' Psychosis Crawler win-con. All of those cards are less than $4 and give you that alternate route to victory you were searching for.
I do have one concern though, most of your creatures cost 5 cmc or more and you run only 5 ramp spells. There will be a lot of times where you struggle to get enough mana and/or keep pace with decks that ramp more aggressively. Plus I foresee times where you only have enough mana to cast one 5+ cmc spell a turn while everyone else has enough mana to cast multiple spells. I'd personally double the amount of ramp at a minimum, but you could probably go up to 12-13 ramp spells in a deck like this (there are plenty of budget ramp options that remain). Besides that, this deck seems pretty cool! +1 from me.
3 weeks ago
Psychosis Crawler and Seizan, Perverter of Truth do not get doubled by Obosh, the Prey Piercer, as they cause loss of life instead of dealing damage. Same for Baneful Omen, Angrath, the Flame-Chained, and Ob Nixilis Reignited.