Isolated Chapel

Isolated Chapel

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Isolated Chapel enters the battlefield tapped unless you control a Plains or a Swamp.

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Isolated Chapel Discussion

Gory.Flory on The Queen Of Politics

2 weeks ago

Online class is in session, which just means I've got an excuse to post my suggestions now. My suggestions for lands are a doctrine I'm going to press on you; the following suggestions are just ideas that you can decline based on your taste. Overall, your list epitomizes the Commander format to me.

  1. LANDS MAN LANDS! You could have the best cards in every format and never play them when you need them because you're topdecking the wrong basics at the wrong time. There's budget options, not every mana base needs to be fetches and shocks. Prioritize your lands over cards that are powerful but not essential to your strategy. There are some specific lands that would be interesting in here too. I recommend prioritizing buying one or all of these cycles before buying stuff like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth if you don't already have one. The basic land ratio can then be more specific once your lands are fixed, but that can be the last step of your construction.

Your Mardu and Commander staples: Command Tower , Savai Triome , Nomad Outpost , Exotic Orchard , Terramorphic Expanse , Evolving Wilds . I have a Forbidden Orchard that would be cool in this deck but would need to be part of a good deal (I'm strict about lands).

Your bicolored lands:

a. Pain lands: Caves of Koilos and Battlefield Forge are cheap as hell. Sulfurous Springs is the most expensive of these three but if you can get your cycle of lands for less than $15, it's still really good.

b. Filter lands: Graven Cairns , Rugged Prairie , Fetid Heath . You can get all three of these for $16 so it doesn't pass our test... but I have a Cairns for trade, bringing you to $12.50. These are good because you have some cards essential to your strategy that have double-colored-mana costs and others with multicolored costs. These are a great budget cycle, especially for your colors.

c. Temples are super cheap now: Temple of Malice , Temple of Silence , Temple of Triumph .

Less good bicolored lands that are require deckbuilding technique:

c. Check lands: these are fantastic if you have a good basic land ratio (why it would be important not to run both the thriving lands and the pathways at the same time as these)- Dragonskull Summit , Clifftop Retreat , Isolated Chapel

d. Pathway lands: Needleverge Pathway  Flip, Brightclimb Pathway  Flip, Blightstep Pathway  Flip. You saw the foil full art Blightstep Pathway that was in my knight deck, you asked about the price when you said it was cool. I wouldn't necessarily go out of your way to buy these, but definitely seek them out in binders. If you're not running cards like Cultivate where you want to have some ratio of basic lands, these are strictly better than basic lands and could replace your Thriving Lands (which are a decent start; I have the nonred ones available).

e. These lands: Foreboding Ruins , Shineshadow Snarl , Furycalm Snarl

  1. Curses, Vows, Impetuses: these could be cool, especially with the Sigarda's Aid you already own. Having these in your hand (and even better, a sigarda's aid in play) means when you say "if you attack this person instead of me, I'll reward you with ____" and bluff, or if someone attacks you you could flash in a Vow of Duty . I have most of these in the cube (as well as marchesa and the jankier cards in your deck), so you can try these out and see if you like them.

a. The other vows are Vow of Lightning , Vow of Torment , and Vow of Malice (quick trivia- there's two black vows because R&D has tried to ween off of intimidate and other mechanics like protection from [color] and likely didn't want to include it in Commander Legends).

b. More aggressive and prone to cause kamikaze-style attacks, the Impetuses are similar to the vows but definitely play very differently. Martial Impetus , Shiny Impetus , and Parasitic Impetus could even be considered removal for multiple creatures in combat if you flash them out with Sigarda's Aid.

c. Curses: Marchesa was the most popular commander for curses until Ghen, Arcanum Weaver was released. Curse of Chaos encourages the player with a shitty hand to swing in a bit. Curse of Bloodletting punishes the opponent who is too far ahead. Curse of Shallow Graves is cool at a table with Gedan's Varina, Lich Queen deck. The curses from Commander 2017- Curse of Opulence and Curse of Disturbance are the best in your deck as they also give you something when your opponent attacks them too. These are really the only curses that fit the theme and psychology of your deck by not making you a target IMO, but .

  1. Removal: You have some "soft" enchantment synergy going on, so you might as well make it more broad. You're in the late game, you've got all your powerhouse enchantments in order and extra mana... why not cast Idyllic Tutor for whatever removal would smooth out your schemes? Darksteel Mutation shuts down commanders. Seal of Cleansing can be recurred with Hall of Heliod's Generosity . Dark Banishing is honestly a better run for your cash over Bedevil ... you're supposed to be able to convince those opponents to remove the black creature ;)

  2. Individual cards: Gedan has a Rite of the Raging Storm you could get. Wishclaw Talisman is more on theme than Diabolic Tutor or cheaper than Infernal Tutor . This is the only deck I wanna see those and Grim Tutor in since I know what you tutor for will actually be interesting and not a combo piece. Sphere of Safety would be impenetrable and bait removal if you have the mana for it. I have a foil Keeper of the Accord somewhere but I don't know where it is. Commander's Sphere as a budget option for Chromatic Lantern , and if you build a solid budget land base the draw effect would be better (adding but lantern but not replacing would be good eventually)

  3. Some cards I'd remove or wanted to comment on, but understand maybe stylistic or preferred: Sunforger can be a cool aikido spell tutor at instant speed. However, looking at your white instants, you have to spend 3 and then RW to save yourself with Angel's Grace . That could be a cool maneuver. I was also going to suggest dropping Akroma's Will until I saw Sunforger... that's fucking cool too, especially game changing after blockers are declared. Otherwise you're Mortify ing a creature, having your opponent talk to the Deflecting Palm , or Tear ing an enchantment in half. Batwing Brume wouldn't do anything with Sunforger. Therefore Sunforger basically has two game-changing effects and three utility effects, but I'd suggest keeping an eye on Sunforger to see how often the 3RW cost is available and worth it. The fewer cards you're dependent on, the more decentralized your strategy is, making it way harder to compete against (I'm saying this both critically and in favor of Sunforger- just keep it in mind). Torment of Hailfire wins you the game, but isn't gonna be less than $15 in the next couple years. You might not need it. Revival / Revenge can make you one of six creatures or one of three opponents an enemy- it seems like there are better cards you could play. Revel in Riches makes you a threat that your opponents need to race against, and I (genuinely) don't know if that's a position you want or if you want to maintain your monarch status. Try to think of when you want to win with this deck- by beating down your opponents individually, by beating them all at once, by spontaneously winning, or by drawing the game out for as long as possible and having the best resources throughout the game.

I haven't been able to analyze most of my own decks this intensively in a while, your design is competitive while still unique and interesting. Knowing your play style and how well it fits to this too also helps me suggest cards- it's the difference between auto-generating a deck from EDHRec and building a deck. I haven't been super inspired in the decks I've been building for myself, but this one of yours has me just as interested in the game as you now.

multimedia on WTF KAALIA

2 months ago

Hey, you're welcome.

My next advice is consider improving the manabase? More dual lands in place of some basic lands, Bloodfell Caves and Immersturm Skullcairn to help color fixing. 27 basic lands is a lot for a three color deck since you risk drawing all of one or two types of basic lands. On a budget there's several lands to consider adding:

Lands that will always ETB untapped are better, but there aren't a lot of budget options. The next tiers of prices for some lands for future upgrades ($4 lowest to $10 highest):

Spirits on Undying Persistence

2 months ago

Ok, here's a little bit of analysis to consider. Break it up into some comments to read. These are opinions based on experience, playing and watching lots of commander content over the years, doesn't account for your specific playstyle or how you have fun playing commander which are certainly as important of decisions, as is card selection.

Topic: Ramp

You are very low in the mana curve, 11 1-drop, 21 2-drop, 15 3-drop, 16 4-drop, and Orzhov () has lots of pips, but mana ramp is critical to getting your plan onboard as quickly as others, having mana available to advance board state/gain advantage and have interaction, and landing your larger threats sooner.

Sol Ring (CMC1 for 2 = +1 mana) is a must include.

Orzhov Signet I personally don't like (CMC3 for 1 = -2 mana) but also you're in which doesn't ramp as it's core strength.

Arcane Signet (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include, there are only a few archetypes I wouldn't play this in and usually only .

Talisman of Hierarchy (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include in .

Dark Ritual (CMC1 for 3 = +2 mana) this allows for explosive turns like a T1 Vampire Nighthawk .

I would start with that at least, some fringe ones I like are: Burnished Hart (creature/recursion), Commander's Sphere (draw), Mycosynth Wellspring (to hand, fringe), Pristine Talisman (lifegain, fringe), Solemn Simulacrum (ramp+draw!), The Birth of Meletis (doesn't help with , but ramp, 0/4 blocker, lifegain? it has it all!), Wayfarer's Bauble (ramp).

On a premise of battlecruiser/low/mid power 3-6 I DO NOT recommend these, but there are stronger options out there beyond 6: Phyrexian Altar (combo builds), Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Smothering Tithe , Land Tax (Might not be bad in this build)

Honestly on a Avg. CMC 2.99 mana curve, I would likely have 10-12 ramp.

Some potential cuts for these:

Gorgon's Head you've got plenty of deathtouch already, it's not pairing with a Viridian Longbow strategy or anything, it's redundant, but also the worst. Easy cut. (We can get to Open the Armory / Steelshaper's Gift later)

Pierce Strider CMC4 for a 3/3 is just plain bad, the idea is play, do 3 damage, block/sac it, noone going to pay 3 to prevent it? but they will because it's going to do 3 anyway on return, and if your using recursion on this, your making the wrong play as it has no value engine on it. Easy cut.

Creeping Chill for CMC4 sorcery is not great, you're not playing a mill strategy so you're not really casting it for free often. It's not a strong play, we can find better ones, like ramping into Athreos, God of Passage sooner.

Font of Return for CMC6? Yikes. (CMC2+CMC4 for 3 creatures to hand is not great, we can get them on the battlefield for that high a CMC).

Angelic Gift hmm we have flyers, with deathtouch, it replaces itself (draw a card) but unless we flickering it ( Ephemerate or Brago, King Enternal something like that, it sets up easy 2-for-1 if an opponent has instand speed removal.

Topic: Lands! (Umm!)

Average Distribution Build: 38 lands

Average Budget Build: 36 lands

Average Expensive Build: 37 lands

Average Aristocrats Build: 35 lands

Average Reanimator Build: 31 lands (closer)

Your Build: 30 lands (Umm!)

No way you can run 30 lands, and 0 ramp in this deck. I wouldn't shuffle this deck with less than 33 lands, probably 34-36 if I'm playing enters tapped/utility lands. I might (maybe not) go to 33 lands with 9+ ramp spells, but even then, 34 would feel better.

Do you have a combo with Piranha Marsh like Worldgorger Dragon does, if not, just delaying yourself for little value (1 damage). Kabira Crossroads in this same bucket, it's just not work the tapped mana.

Reliquary Tower where are the cards coming from? The colorless is a detriment. Unless your playing a draw strategy Necropotence / Greed it will hurt you more than the rare occasion it might help.

Let's be honest, lands SUCK, they are too expensive! Here is a list of lands you should look at:

Lands I suggest: Godless Shrine ($9), Orzhov Basilica (<$1, slow ramp), Caves of Koilos (<$1 must have!), Command Tower (Umm!), Brightclimb Pathway  Flip ($4), Tainted Field (<$1)

Lands I don't suggest: Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse (<$1 fixed color), Scoured Barrens (<$1 fixed color), Isolated Chapel ($6, Not bad but not T1 land), Myriad Landscape (<$1, slow), Temple of Silence (<$1, scry/slow).

Forsaken Sanctuary only ever enters tapped so even Isolated Chapel is better, but there is also Orzhov Guildgate that does this too.

Have to head out, I'll review more topics and recs later, but here are some other cards can come out for mana. Gorgon Flail it's on theme and not bad, but let's get that Basilisk Collar or Quietus Spike instead. Soul Stair Expedition I would rather Animate Dead or Reanimate to the battlefield right away, not have to wait for lands (it still sacrifices itself). Not Forgotten we have better removal. Have to head out now! More later to read. :) If it's too much info, let me know!

Unlife on A touch from the gods

6 months ago

I'm not sire what your budget is, I like the look of the deck, but I would work on the mana base. You are white heavy, but making sure you have easy access to all 5 colors is important. Three Visits and Nature's Lore pair well with lands that include forest in their type, which means you can ramp into multiple colors. The triomes are a good fit, you can cycle them from hand if you need the draw, and you can ramp into them, pulling three colors at once. I'd also look at the check lands like Sunpetal Grove, Isolated Chapel, etc. They usually won't enter tapped and they aren't particularly expensive. Maybe Keeper of the Accord as well, just to generate a bit of ramp and tokens, and possibly Karametra, God of Harvests, which turns your creature spells into ramp spells as well for both basic and nonbasic lands. Hope this helps.

Apollo_Paladin on Heroes of War V0.1

6 months ago

I notice you mentioned it's a bit slow in the description there.

I use Kor Spiritdancer in my Mono-White Aura Beatdown Deck and it works remarkably well at speeding up play with all the card draw. Maybe you could swap out some of your Instant options for some 1 or 2-mana Creature Enchantments (which would still trigger Heroic abilities) and work that in somehow.

You might also look at inexpensive dual land options since I imagine as it stands now a large part of it being slow is just waiting on the proper color mana (at least sometimes).

I like Isolated Chapel myself, but there's tons of options out there for dual land. Some expensive, some cheap - just take your pick and add in 4 copies of 1 or 2 (I don't think you need ALL dual lands or anything).

LitchOubliette on Commander Staples Cube

6 months ago

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DemMeowsephs on Licia Blood Bending (Mardu Life control Voltron)

7 months ago

Hey there! You mention the mana base needing some help in your description, and if you're still looking to work on that, maybe consider some of the following cards! Many may be out of budget, and you could possibly have been aware of them all already, and if that is the case I hope this can be of use to you as a reference!

Since you have the two temples, you may want to include the last one, Temple of Malice. Even though you don't run too many / cards, you still need that colored mana to cast Licia, and so you want a relatively even mana base. Same goes for the last pain land, I'd recommend including Sulfurous Springs since you have the other two. Since you're also gaining a lot of life, and because they are great in general, you may want to take a look at Blood Crypt, Godless Shrine, and Sacred Foundry, (the shock lands) which function very well, especially with the following cards: the fetch lands. Bloodstained Mire, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats are some of the best lands in the game! These can search for the shock lands, not just basic lands, allowing you to get any colors you need from just one of them! While that whole set is pretty expensive, it may be something to think about for the future. Now on the cheaper side, there are the wonderful fast lands, Blackcleave Cliffs, Concealed Courtyard, and Inspiring Vantage, which can help you support your early fundamental turns quite well! If you wish to include a lot of basics/shock lands, you may want to think about having the check lands, Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, and Clifftop Retreat, which tend to be great and also lay on the cheaper side. Last but not least, there are the filter lands, Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, and Rugged Prairie! Now that said, here are some non-dual lands that could really help fix the mana base quite a lot that I would recommend: City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Ancient Tomb, Prismatic Vista, Fabled Passage, Reflecting Pool, Exotic Orchard, Strip Mine, Wasteland, etc.

Now enough about lands! Here are some ramp spells you might like. Land Tax, Arcane Signet, Commander's Sphere, Talisman of Conviction, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Indulgence, Jet Medallion, Pearl Medallion, Ruby Medallion, Sol Ring, Gift of Estates, Weathered Wayfarer, Chromatic Lantern, etc!

I also have a mardu deck, (A Deal With the Devil EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷), so if you want to check out most of the cards I mentioned on a list, feel free to pop in there! Anyways though, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a wonderful day! Happy tapping!

TriusMalarky on LIFE GAIN DOES MATER

7 months ago

Anyone claiming Spell Pierce is bad is insane. It's an amazing card in any playgroup that is tuned in any way. is a pretty big tax. However, it's not good as generic countermagic -- it's for crushing combos or protecting your combo.

If your playgroup isn't tuned to any degree, doesn't run many combos at all, and you're not using a combo wincon, replace Spell Pierce. If you're playing anything other than low power hyper casual commander, keep Spell Pierce and add more countermagic. Every blue deck should include Negate, Counterspell, Dispel.

Second, you have 14 taplands. This is horrible. I don't care what meta you're in, fix that. I'll give you some tips: River of Tears, Nimbus Maze, and Caves of Koilos are all really cheap and will make your manabase a lot better. Cut a handful of taplands for more basics -- they're great and in budget manabases they are necessary for making your deck work. Glacial Fortress, Isolated Chapel, Drowned Catacomb aren't too pricey and will make your manabase MUCH better. Tainted Field and Tainted Isle are pretty cheap.

Cards I'd cut: Debt to the Deathless, Death Grasp, Serra Avatar. They all just cost too much mana.

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